Son of the Evening Star - Anyone Interested?

[Curufin]

Plus, we have plenty of time in the 3rd age to RP when nothing's happening. (Er, well, other than my character getting married and having kids...)

Well, maybe Gil-Galad doesn't but we do.

[Willow Oran]

Given how few players we currently have, character death may be a good thing. Easier doublecasting.

[Curufin]

I've found sometimes RP's work better with fewer characters.

Although we do need a Celebrian...

[Willow Oran]

Yeah... we can always play her as public until someone jumps in and says they want her. It shouldn't take too long before that happens.

[Varnafindë]

I intend to have my Original Character, Rameldir, come in as soon as I have more time to post.
As I've made him the grandson of Angrod (through an OC daughter), I need to know what parentage we'll use for Gil-galad. They can either be first cousins or something slightly more removed.

And Rameldir knew Earendil better than Elrond did. They used to play together as little boys in Gondolin.

[Curufin]

Not hard - Elrond never really knew him well at all.

[Curufin]

Hmm. I guess, thanks to me, we may be needing some Dúnadain shortly (is that the correct plural?).

[Varnafindë]

Originally Posted by Varnafindë

As I've made him the grandson of Angrod (through an OC daughter), I need to know what parentage we'll use for Gil-galad. They can either be first cousins or something slightly more removed.

So who is Gil-galad's father?

[Curufin]

Personally, I'd go with Orodreth, but it's kind of up to Sasquatch.

[Varnafindë]

I have asked - I'll start to work on a post, but I won't finish it until it's settled.

[Curufin]

Yes, Elrond's being broody and taciturn.

Sorry, Glorfindel.

[Varnafindë]

We'll see whether Rameldir can do anything about it.

When he knows whether he's got an uncle or not

[Curufin]

Well, why don't we just say that, as Thread Master, I declare henceforth that Orodreth is Gil-galad's father.

There.

Now you can post.

[Varnafindë]

There indeed!

Edit, later:
I expect you'll get the reference

[Varnafindë]

I assume that the last two RP posts are about simultaneous, and, strictly speaking, recorded in the wrong order chronologically.

[Curufin]

Just so you know, my Elrond looks absolutely, positively NOTHING like Hugo Weaving. Banish the thought from your mind. Burn it. Purge it.

My Elrond is attractive, as befits the great-grandson of Lúthien.

[Willow Oran]

Now, now... don't blame the sloppy costume&make-up work on Hugo... They could have made him appropriately attractive and failed miserably.

[Varnafindë]

Willow, how did you know that Rameldir is Glorfindel's cousin?

Perhaps he is on his mother's side as well - I don't know about Glorfindel's connection to Turgon's House - but he certainly is on his father's side, and I'm not sure I have mentioned it anywhere (other than to Aika over MSN when we were discussing his ancestry).

Very perceptive of you

And a good point about last having seen him as a child and now being younger than him. To Rameldir it isn't as significant - Glorfindel was one of the adults then, and he is an adult now, and the age difference isn't all-important. But it will probably take Glorfindel a few more centuries to get used to it.

They will live together in Rivendell for two and a half more millennia, so it might be better eventually ...

[Willow Oran]

I'm psychic that way.

No, not really, I was actually going off of my bio for him which I sent to Curufin as instructed.

Just to clarify: My Glorfindel's parents are the son of Irime and the sister of Elenwe. So he's Idril's second cousin on their fathers' side and first cousin on their mothers'. I've got him as just a little younger than Idril, too. So basically, he's the baby of the pre-second age elf-lords.

[Varnafindë]

So Rameldir's mother (Arindis, OC daughter of Angrod) is related to Glorfindel's father. Makes sense.

You know what? I'm going to use your Glorfindel to define Rameldir's ancestry on his father's side.

*goes to her genealogy notes* Oh yes, I've got a lovely chart of Varna's ancestors - and even of her mother's brother and his in-laws (some of whom I'm playing elsewhere, including on fanfiction.net).

His father (called Erufailon) would be related to Elenwe and her sister, then. My chart says that Erufailon's mother (I don't know anything about his father) is a "female 1st cousin of Glorfindel" and that his mother's father is an "uncle of Glorfindel". Are you all right with Elenwe and her sister having a brother?

Otherwise I could remove them a little further off and make her a 2nd cousin instead. But it would fit beautifully as it is - with me being slightly psychic as well (the thing about being vague, is that it's easy to remold later )

Erufailon was about 35 and Arindis about 25 at the crossing of Helcaraxë (I'm hoping some time to play or write about how he saved her from drowning). They only had a child far into their marriage - Rameldir will do the same eventually (in both cases for story external reasons ). So they would both be slightly but not significantly older than Glorfindel.

Feel free to "remember him from your youth". Glorfindel would remember him better than Rameldir does. I don't know much about him. He fell defending the King at the fall of Gondolin. If you like combining different RP realities, that is