Silmarillion Pronounciations

Yodaman · 11-30-2004, 05:49 PM

Not being fluent in Quenya or any other Tolkien laguages, there are several names of the characters I can't pronounce. Here are they are:

Eä
manwë
glaurung
Tinúviel

Can any of you help me? Thanks

**Nurvingiel** · 11-30-2004, 05:54 PM

I have the same problem with pronounciations, but here's how I do my best...

EH-ya
MAN-way
GLAH-rung
tin-OO-vee-el

I hope I have not just buctchered people's names. The all-caps syllables are the ones with emphasis.

Durin1 · 12-01-2004, 08:38 AM

I think Glaurung has au in it which should be pronounced as "ow" e.g. Aule = Ow - lay

**Nurvingiel** · 12-01-2004, 08:56 AM

Oh, like Sauron = SOW-ron, same idea?

Durin1 · 12-01-2004, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Oh, like Sauron = SOW-ron, same idea?

Exactly!!

On a side note:

Has anyone ever heard the audio Silmarillion, read by Martin Shaw? He does an ok job but it is so annoying that he gets a lot of the pronunciation wrong; especially Aule (about 4 different versions - all incorrect), Maedhros, Nirnaeth etc (ae is pronounced as "eye" = Mythros for example). The worst is his pronunciation of Ainulindale, Eldalie etc. Again, le = leh/lay, not lur/er.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 12-01-2004, 01:22 PM

Until recently i said dh as dr not th!

Durin1 · 12-02-2004, 07:10 AM

One eventually becomes so accustomed to the pronunciation in Tolkien's works that they crop up in every day readings, well for me at least

I find that sometimes I have to check myself when I pronounce certain words. E.g when there's a word beginning with C I try and stop myself from pronouncing it as K.

Elemmírë · 12-05-2004, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durin1

Exactly!!

On a side note:

Has anyone ever heard the audio Silmarillion, read by Martin Shaw? He does an ok job but it is so annoying that he gets a lot of the pronunciation wrong; especially Aule (about 4 different versions - all incorrect), Maedhros, Nirnaeth etc (ae is pronounced as "eye" = Mythros for example). The worst is his pronunciation of Ainulindale, Eldalie etc. Again, le = leh/lay, not lur/er.

ouch. That sounds painful. The "dh," though, isn't that supposed to be a hard th, as in "the" compared to "theory"? Gyaa, I could pronounce all the Quenya names, but my knowledge of Sindarin is somewhat lacking, I suppose...

*shudders again*

My tongue is feeling slightly funny from trying to figure out the different "th" pronunciations...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durin1

One eventually becomes so accustomed to the pronunciation in Tolkien's works that they crop up in every day readings, well for me at least I find that sometimes I have to check myself when I pronounce certain words. E.g when there's a word beginning with C I try and stop myself from pronouncing it as K.

I prefer the hard "C" anyway

Manveru · 01-18-2005, 07:15 PM

what about 'Eol'?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-18-2005, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manveru

what about 'Eol'?

AY-ollh ?

Minielin · 01-18-2005, 07:28 PM

I've always said "EH-ohl"... that's most likely wrong... my only basis in fact is that EO is pronounced as two separate syllables, but... *shrug*

Embladyne · 01-18-2005, 08:24 PM

I always mispronounce things, and so I always ask EL....
but reading this thread is making me speak gibberish...good thing my roommate isn't around

the "ae" sound always confuses me, 'cause I always want to say "eh" when it's really like the "ae" in Gaea. It's that darn dysgraphia...causing me to see "ea" and not "ae"....rrrrr

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-19-2005, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manveru

what about 'Eol'?

I say OLE

Durin1 · 01-19-2005, 06:56 AM

It is definitely pronounced "eh-oll"

11-30-2004, 05:49 PM	#1
Yodaman Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Swamps of Dagobah Posts: 234	Silmarillion Pronounciations Not being fluent in Quenya or any other Tolkien laguages, there are several names of the characters I can't pronounce. Here are they are: Eä manwë glaurung Tinúviel Can any of you help me? Thanks __________________ "What about second breakfast?"

12-01-2004, 08:38 AM	#3
Durin1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 221	I think Glaurung has au in it which should be pronounced as "ow" e.g. Aule = Ow - lay __________________ Durin the Sleepless!

12-01-2004, 01:22 PM	#6
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Until recently i said dh as dr not th! __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

12-02-2004, 07:10 AM	#7
Durin1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 221	One eventually becomes so accustomed to the pronunciation in Tolkien's works that they crop up in every day readings, well for me at least I find that sometimes I have to check myself when I pronounce certain words. E.g when there's a word beginning with C I try and stop myself from pronouncing it as K. __________________ Durin the Sleepless!

01-18-2005, 07:15 PM	#9
Manveru Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 256	what about 'Eol'? __________________ Earendel arose where the shadow flows At Ocean's silent brim; Through the mouth of night as a ray of light Where the shores are sheer and dim He launched his bark like a silver spark From the last and lonely sand; Then on sunlit breath of day's fiery death He sailed from Westerland

01-18-2005, 07:28 PM	#11
Minielin Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: I dwell in possibility. Posts: 247	I've always said "EH-ohl"... that's most likely wrong... my only basis in fact is that EO is pronounced as two separate syllables, but... shrug __________________ "...then how shall I Revive the dying tones of minstrelsy, Which linger yet about lone gothic arches, In dark green ivy, and among wild larches?" Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum.

01-18-2005, 08:24 PM	#12
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	I always mispronounce things, and so I always ask EL.... but reading this thread is making me speak gibberish...good thing my roommate isn't around the "ae" sound always confuses me, 'cause I always want to say "eh" when it's really like the "ae" in Gaea. It's that darn dysgraphia...causing me to see "ea" and not "ae"....rrrrr __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

01-19-2005, 06:56 AM	#14
Durin1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 221	It is definitely pronounced "eh-oll" __________________ Durin the Sleepless!

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