Hobbit movie plot ideas - Page 3

Curubethion · 05-16-2008, 02:29 PM

The second movie...the question is, what does it need to fill in?

--That Saruman has been pushing the question of the Ring aside
--Frodo gets adopted by Bilbo
--The Sackville-Baggins setup
--Gandalf's acquaintance with Aragorn
--The Hunt for Gollum, perhaps?

Ingwe · 05-27-2008, 04:09 AM

I'm sure a lot of the events of this time taking place in Mirkwood will be pointed at, hopefully.

BeardofPants · 06-03-2008, 04:43 PM

Very appropos comic from Penny Arcade.

Jon S. · 06-03-2008, 09:04 PM

Someone is writing a brand new movie plot to fill the time between two books of fiction, OMG, the sky is falling.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 06-05-2008, 09:07 AM

"You won't read a book if there are no wookies in it, so you don't know."

Funny comic. Thanks for the link.

BeardofPants · 06-05-2008, 01:59 PM

No probs.

Jon S. · 06-17-2008, 07:35 PM

Does anyone visit here anymore?!

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 06-17-2008, 08:57 PM

Not much. I'm more interested in topics where the sky isn't falling.

Curufin · 06-17-2008, 11:30 PM

I'd rather avoid this topic myself.

It depresses me.

Jon S. · 06-18-2008, 10:37 AM

By "here" I meant Entmoot generally, not only the topics some find "depressing."

Forgive me, it's just my extroverted self.

Mark of Cenla · 06-19-2008, 03:34 PM

It seems to me that a movie that comes after The Hobbit would mostly have to be about Aragorn. For example: his protecting of the Shire and other places, his decision to become a ranger rather than pursuing the throne of Gondor, his relationship with Arwen, his working with Gandalf, etc. That stuff is only hinted at in the Tolkien "canon". It could be done well, or not. I am all for it. To each his/her own. Peace.

***Valandil*** · 06-19-2008, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark of Cenla

..., his decision to become a ranger rather than pursuing the throne of Gondor, ...

GAAGGH!

I sure hope not!

Jon S. · 06-20-2008, 11:07 AM

Hope is not relevant here - the die was cast in the LOTR movies, the Hobbit film will be consistent and so we'll see a real man struggling with real doubts. Personally, this was one of the facets of the movies I liked best (I found the Aragorn of the book admirable but not complex, the type of simplified character one might expect the Hobbit Red Book of Westmarch authors to prefer but not like one typically finds in real life).

And yes, I know I'm in the minority on the forum and you all disagree.

Mark of Cenla · 06-20-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valandil

GAAGGH!

I sure hope not!

At one point in his life, that is what he did. I am not making that up. Later, in Lord of the Rings he changed his mind. When he met the hobbits
in Bree, he was a ranger, not someone pursuing the throne of Gondor.

I am quite interested in a so-called "bridge" movie, but I can understand why one wouldn't be. If that is the case, don't go see it when it comes out. Peace.

Curufin · 06-21-2008, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon S.

And yes, I know I'm in the minority on the forum and you all disagree.

Ah, now I don't even have to say it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark of Cenla

At one point in his life, that is what he did. I am not making that up. Later, in Lord of the Rings he changed his mind. When he met the hobbits
in Bree, he was a ranger, not someone pursuing the throne of Gondor.

Er...this sounds pretty much from the movie, not from the book. Do you have any textual evidence for this? Because this certainly isn't the feeling I got.

Gordis · 06-21-2008, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark of Cenla

When he met the hobbits in Bree, he was a ranger, not someone pursuing the throne of Gondor.

I wonder what you think "someone pursuing the throne of Gondor" would do.

I guess he would write a lengthy official application for the Crown of the United Kingdom with lots of appendices (including a complete genealogical tree of Isildur's Line and drawings of the Heirlooms of his house: the scepter of Annuminas, the shards of Narsil, the Ring of Barahir, the Elendilmir etc. - all this certified by signatures of three witnesses). A blood sample for DNA test would be helpful, too.

Then with the application submitted to the Council of Gondor, the applicant would settle in Minas Tirith and wait for long years until the Council of Gondor has time to discuss the Application and reject it.

Nice life for a wannabe King!

Jon S. · 06-21-2008, 11:37 AM

LOL! You can use me as a reference for when you apply for the satire version screenwriting gig, Gordis!

Coffeehouse · 07-12-2008, 12:03 PM

I gotta say I'm a bit edgy as to what look they'll give Greenwood (Mirkwood). The descriptions in Tolkien's works vary, all according to what part of the forest is entangled in darkness or not.. but really my imagionation portrays Greenwood as a lush, green forest where there are areas of deadened, dark trees, but mostly great swathes of oak and beech, a Deciduous forest

A green wood which you can get really, really lost in. I can even imagine areas that resemble Fangorn Forest.. which would mean.. maybe there are Ents in Greenwood too? (wishful thinking)

Jon S. · 07-14-2008, 10:24 PM

Perhaps even an ent-wife.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 07-18-2008, 11:51 AM

I see Mirkwood as mostly deciduous also. And not as dead as what one might expect, even in the murkiest parts. Sauron hasn't been there that long and creatures like spiders and black squirrels need something to eat.

I would expect the contrast between the areas held by elves and the murky areas to be stark.

05-16-2008, 02:29 PM	#41
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	The second movie...the question is, what does it need to fill in? --That Saruman has been pushing the question of the Ring aside --Frodo gets adopted by Bilbo --The Sackville-Baggins setup --Gandalf's acquaintance with Aragorn --The Hunt for Gollum, perhaps? __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

05-27-2008, 04:09 AM	#42
Ingwe Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere not of this world Posts: 402	I'm sure a lot of the events of this time taking place in Mirkwood will be pointed at, hopefully. __________________ I'm back. Everyone fear for their lives. Arrggghhh! Get to the choppa, it's Godzilla, fighting Indiana Jones, Copyright, uh-oh!

06-03-2008, 04:43 PM	#43
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Very appropos comic from Penny Arcade. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

06-03-2008, 09:04 PM	#44
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	Someone is writing a brand new movie plot to fill the time between two books of fiction, OMG, the sky is falling. __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

06-05-2008, 09:07 AM	#45
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	"You won't read a book if there are no wookies in it, so you don't know." Funny comic. Thanks for the link. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

06-05-2008, 01:59 PM	#46
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	No probs. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

06-17-2008, 07:35 PM	#47
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	Does anyone visit here anymore?! __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

06-17-2008, 08:57 PM	#48
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Not much. I'm more interested in topics where the sky isn't falling. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

06-17-2008, 11:30 PM	#49
Curufin The Ñoldóran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	I'd rather avoid this topic myself. It depresses me. __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

06-18-2008, 10:37 AM	#50
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	By "here" I meant Entmoot generally, not only the topics some find "depressing." Forgive me, it's just my extroverted self. __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

06-19-2008, 03:34 PM	#51
Mark of Cenla Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: central Louisiana Posts: 105	It seems to me that a movie that comes after The Hobbit would mostly have to be about Aragorn. For example: his protecting of the Shire and other places, his decision to become a ranger rather than pursuing the throne of Gondor, his relationship with Arwen, his working with Gandalf, etc. That stuff is only hinted at in the Tolkien "canon". It could be done well, or not. I am all for it. To each his/her own. Peace. __________________ Mark Wellman ><> Last edited by Mark of Cenla : 06-19-2008 at 03:37 PM.

06-20-2008, 11:07 AM	#53
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	Hope is not relevant here - the die was cast in the LOTR movies, the Hobbit film will be consistent and so we'll see a real man struggling with real doubts. Personally, this was one of the facets of the movies I liked best (I found the Aragorn of the book admirable but not complex, the type of simplified character one might expect the Hobbit Red Book of Westmarch authors to prefer but not like one typically finds in real life). And yes, I know I'm in the minority on the forum and you all disagree. __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

06-21-2008, 11:37 AM	#57
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	LOL! You can use me as a reference for when you apply for the satire version screenwriting gig, Gordis! __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

07-12-2008, 12:03 PM	#58
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	I gotta say I'm a bit edgy as to what look they'll give Greenwood (Mirkwood). The descriptions in Tolkien's works vary, all according to what part of the forest is entangled in darkness or not.. but really my imagionation portrays Greenwood as a lush, green forest where there are areas of deadened, dark trees, but mostly great swathes of oak and beech, a Deciduous forest A green wood which you can get really, really lost in. I can even imagine areas that resemble Fangorn Forest.. which would mean.. maybe there are Ents in Greenwood too? (wishful thinking) __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

07-14-2008, 10:24 PM	#59
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	Perhaps even an ent-wife. __________________ Don't curse the darkness - light a candle.

07-18-2008, 11:51 AM	#60
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	I see Mirkwood as mostly deciduous also. And not as dead as what one might expect, even in the murkiest parts. Sauron hasn't been there that long and creatures like spiders and black squirrels need something to eat. I would expect the contrast between the areas held by elves and the murky areas to be stark. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

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