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Old 11-01-2004, 07:39 AM   #1
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The Death Star

do you think the Death Star will feature in any way in episode III? because we saw the plans for it in AOTC so what will we se in ROTS
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:57 AM   #2
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It could very well be, frankly I'm counting on it for a bit.

I think adding those plans in AOTC was a very nice touch and helps solidating the two film-trilogy together.
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I don't.

Why? Because it is presented in Episode 4 as something new, something original, and that wouldn't have been the case if it had been around for or twenty or forty years before that.
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I think so. Maybe it will feature somewhere in the background, just to tickle something in the back of your head. As another link between the movies.
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Most likely the Death Star WILL be in Ep III.

Or at least you will see it in construction much the way the second death star is in ROTJ.

We will probably also see Grand Moff Tarkin - the dude in charge of the Death Star in Ep 4, A New Hope.
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Wow. I guess everybody dissagrees with me. :grin:

Still. I think the Death Star will be alluded to in Episode III. I think that Palpatine will be setting the groundwork for its construction, and we'll get to see the machinations started that in 10 or 20 years will eventually result in the construction of the Death Star. The actual construction should occur in the 'off screen' times between episodes.
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Most likely the Death Star WILL be in Ep III.

Or at least you will see it in construction much the way the second death star is in ROTJ.

We will probably also see Grand Moff Tarkin - the dude in charge of the Death Star in Ep 4, A New Hope.
I'm not thinking the whole Death Star will be in Episode III. There's a large time-period between Episode III and Episode IV, so it'll be unlikely it would already be in construction at the time of Episode III. In RoTJ the Empire was much more powerful IMO than in Episode III so they would not have needed so long to built the Death Star.

At least that's what I'm guessing, can't be sure until we see the finished film, right? But I'm counting on it that there will be references or holo's from the plans in Episode III.
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Wow. I guess everybody dissagrees with me. :grin:

Still. I think the Death Star will be alluded to in Episode III. I think that Palpatine will be setting the groundwork for its construction, and we'll get to see the machinations started that in 10 or 20 years will eventually result in the construction of the Death Star. The actual construction should occur in the 'off screen' times between episodes.
It will be better if the construction begins in episode III. The Death Star is the coolest thing in StarWars, it's to big to leave out its origen & construction. The more they show about the Death Star, the better.

Ps: as for dissagreing with you, it's fun, 'cause you always say something back
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Wow. I guess everybody dissagrees with me. :grin:.
And I'm sure that's nothing new at all...
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I'll forgive you cause you're new around here. But yes it is. Trust me, I'm as flabbergasted as you are.
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I think so...

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Wow. I guess everybody dissagrees with me. :grin:

Still. I think the Death Star will be alluded to in Episode III. I think that Palpatine will be setting the groundwork for its construction, and we'll get to see the machinations started that in 10 or 20 years will eventually result in the construction of the Death Star. The actual construction should occur in the 'off screen' times between episodes.
I for one think this is going to be in it!
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Still. I think the Death Star will be alluded to in Episode III. I think that Palpatine will be setting the groundwork for its construction, and we'll get to see the machinations started that in 10 or 20 years will eventually result in the construction of the Death Star. The actual construction should occur in the 'off screen' times between episodes.
Well, I'm forced to admit that I agree with you too. I don't think they'd put that in Ep. II if they weren't going to elaborate on it a little in Episode III.
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I don't.

Why? Because it is presented in Episode 4 as something new, something original, and that wouldn't have been the case if it had been around for or twenty or forty years before that.
I disagree with your reasoning Wayfarer, what we saw in Episode Two [Clone War] was only a holigraphic planning of the "secret weapon". Undoubtedly there were still a few kinks to be worked out of the design resulting in a breif time of design construction. After the design was completed in full the construction of the physical Death Star had to be initiated. While this series takes place in a more technologically sophisticated time I do feel that the initial physical construction would take some time. Furthermore when we first see the Death Star from Episode Four [A New Hope] the Death Star is fully opperational and fully staffed; which means it took some time to do the final opperation tests [to make sure everything worked(especially the laser)], and get a full crew to man and opperate the Death Star. Finally the completed Death Star was undoubtedly kept hidden and secret for a short while in order to use it as an all powerful trump card.

So in conclusion it is a decent time to introduce the Death Star plans in Episode Two. The time span between then and Episode Four is sufficient with the Deth Star's "life time". As for the origonal question/statment, if the Death Star is shown in Episode Three it should be in a partial construction phase like the second Death Star in Episode Six [Return of the Jedi].

P.S. Also [for those of you who have not seen it already] if you want a very funny theory on the second Death Star watch the film Clerks by Kevin Smith!
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Why? Because it is presented in Episode 4 as something new, something original, and that wouldn't have been the case if it had been around for or twenty or forty years before that.
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Finally the completed Death Star was undoubtedly kept hidden and secret for a short while in order to use it as an all powerful trump card.
Maybe I'm just tired and missing blatant meanings (and will undoubtedly be embarrassed when I'm set right), but are you two making the same point and interpreting it differently?
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Maybe I'm just tired and missing blatant meanings (and will undoubtedly be embarrassed when I'm set right), but are you two making the same point and interpreting it differently?

It's not exactly the same point, and not exactly not the same point. What he was trying to say[ to my understanding, correct me if I am wrong Way.] is that the Death Star would not be finished and should not be seen or previewed in Star Wars Episode 3 [Revenge of the Sith]. I am saying that the Death Star will not be finished but will probably be prevewed in some way in EP3.
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It's definately going to be featured. Episode IV starts off with Princess Leia in the middle of a mission to obtain the Empire's plans for a "secret weapon," which means that the rebels had word of it already. Remember, it was all about R2 delivering the plans to Obi Wan? So Revenge of the Sith has to show Obi Wan either meeting young Leia or them hearing extinsively about each other, and the actual discovery of the Death Star (as opposed to just the hint to the audience in Ep. 2).
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Ah, I almost forgot that Yes, like I said earlyer on:

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I think so. Maybe it will feature somewhere in the background, just to tickle something in the back of your head. As another link between the movies.
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do you think the Death Star will feature in any way in episode III? because we saw the plans for it in AOTC so what will we se in ROTS
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