PJ won Golden Globe for Best Director/Howard Shore best soundtrack

Telcontar · 01-26-2004, 12:13 AM

I'm sure there will quite the debate, but it's still a great recognition to JRR and all those who worked so hard to bring the fantasy to the screen.

Congratulations PJ, and looking forward to winning the Globes best picture, and even more forward to the Oscars.

By the way, congrats to Howard Shore and Annie Lennox, best soundtrack and song. Marvelous job on the music.

**Nurvingiel** · 01-26-2004, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Telcontar
By the way, congrats to Howard Shore and Annie Lennox, best soundtrack and song. Marvelous job on the music.

They deserve it. The soundtrack was very good.

hectorberlioz · 01-26-2004, 12:21 AM

yeah, I love the soundtrack.
Great job Shore!

The best music is in RotK. especiall when it shows the beacons lighted.

Dúnedain · 01-26-2004, 12:37 AM

I just hope this doesn't mean they won't win the Oscars. The Golden Globe winners don't usually win at the Oscars

We will really be able to tell when the Director's Guild Awards are given on February 7th. The majority of the time a director wins at the DGA they win at the Oscar's, so in 2 more weeks we will get a better idea. Here is a link to the research I did about the DGA Awards and Oscar Awards:

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...&threadid=9954

The only competition RotK will have in my opinion is Mystic River...

hectorberlioz · 01-26-2004, 01:06 AM

agreed. everything else is overrated.
and you're right, the oscar best pic winner always chooses a diff BP than the GG's
that sucks

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thranduil · 01-26-2004, 01:09 AM

I wasn't expecting it too win, but he did thank tolkein for writing that novel and gave him recognition.

GrayMouser · 01-26-2004, 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by hectorberlioz
agreed. everything else is overrated.
and you're right, the oscar best pic winner always chooses a diff BP than the GG's
that sucks .

??????

Looking over the last ten years, they agreed 70% of the time.

And twice where they disagreed, the Oscar winner won the Golden Gobe Best Picture Comedy/Musical

2002 Oscar: "Chicago"
GG : "The Hours" ; Best Comedy/Musical "Chicago"

1998 Oscar: "Shakespeare in Love"
GG : "Saving Private Ryan";
Best Comedy "Shakespeare in Love"

Only in 1995 did they disagree totally
Oscar: "Braveheart"
GG: "Sense and Sensibility"; Best Comedy "Babe"

GrayMouser · 01-26-2004, 02:52 AM

Mutually agreed winners

2001: A Beautiful Mind
2000: Gladiator
1999: American Beauty
1997: Titanic
1996: The English Patient
1994: Forrest Gump
1993: Schindler's List

Twista · 01-26-2004, 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by hectorberlioz

The best music is in RotK. especiall when it shows the beacons lighted.

Yeh i though that as well man, you dont really hear the Gondorian theme really until then. Except you do get a little taste of it in FOTR when Gandalf goes and checks the archives.

gimli7410 · 01-26-2004, 10:37 AM

how did cold mountain do, that and mystic river is lotrs biggest competition

Finrod Felagund · 01-26-2004, 10:53 AM

And you hear thge Gondor theme when Boromir is talking at the Council of Elrond, and in the Osgiliath scene in TTT : EE, but our first real intro is as Pipping and Gandalf ride into the city, but I love the Beacons lighting music too.

oh yeah, RotK won best Picture as well.

Thorin II · 01-26-2004, 11:17 AM

I didn't realize the AA and the GG agreed so often. That's a good thing! I suspect Mystic River win either Best Director or Best Picture; it's hard to imagine ROTK sweeping both.

Dúnedain · 01-26-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
how did cold mountain do, that and mystic river is lotrs biggest competition

Cold Mountain was the worst movie I have ever seen! Talk about boring...

Mystic River was very good and I suspect it will be the competition for RotK.

I bet Cold Mountain won't even get an Oscar nomination...

dawningoftime · 01-26-2004, 04:29 PM

This is something that I found interesting.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...DGNU4HO9M1.DTL

jerseydevil · 01-26-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Telcontar
I'm sure there will quite the debate, but it's still a great recognition to JRR

How are the movies a great recognition ot Tolkien? The movies are a huge action sequence with none of the depth that Tolkien has. It's like turning Shakespeare into a children's book.

The fact that Lord of the Rings wom best Drama is laughable.

Lady Ravyn · 01-26-2004, 09:15 PM

when did it win best drama??? it's a drama? did anyone get "drama" out of it? action -drama maybe, but not box-of-tissues-mascara-running drama!

jerseydevil · 01-26-2004, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Ravyn
when did it win best drama??? it's a drama? did anyone get "drama" out of it? action -drama maybe, but not box-of-tissues-mascara-running drama!

Yup - it won best Drama because they don't have "dumbed down hollywood action flick" as a category.

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The epic fantasy won in every category in which it had been nominated. Its haul included best dramatic film and best director. (The Globes separate comedy/musical and drama films in some categories.) "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" also won for best original score in a motion picture and best original song.

gimli7410 · 01-26-2004, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
How are the movies a great recognition ot Tolkien? The movies are a huge action sequence with none of the depth that Tolkien has. It's like turning Shakespeare into a children's book.

The fact that Lord of the Rings wom best Drama is laughable.

u really hate the movies dont you

jerseydevil · 01-26-2004, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
u really hate the movies dont you

You just figuring this out now?

***Tessar*** · 01-27-2004, 12:16 AM

Please,

JD doesn't hate the MOVIES. He hates all human life that has anything to do with the movies in any way shape or form, which means YOU buddy.

Yea that's right, you, the person reading this message.

Awww he's just an old softy, give JD a pizza and a glass of ice tea and he'll love you for life so long as he gets to call PJ a word that sounds like 'back'.

Anyways, moving right along; 'here here!'

I can't say that it was a terribly good movie for the BOOKS, but I'll say that as a stand alone those are the best movies I have yet to see

.

They do a so-so job of showing the books, but it's enough that I enjoy allowing some of the visuals to seep into my ideas of the books.

01-26-2004, 12:13 AM	#1
Telcontar Enting Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 53	PJ won Golden Globe for Best Director/Howard Shore best soundtrack I'm sure there will quite the debate, but it's still a great recognition to JRR and all those who worked so hard to bring the fantasy to the screen. Congratulations PJ, and looking forward to winning the Globes best picture, and even more forward to the Oscars. By the way, congrats to Howard Shore and Annie Lennox, best soundtrack and song. Marvelous job on the music. __________________ "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." - Gandalf the Grey (FOTR) "Revenge is a dish best served cold." - Old Kingdom Proverb Kill Bill Volume 1)

01-26-2004, 12:21 AM	#3
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	yeah, I love the soundtrack. Great job Shore! The best music is in RotK. especiall when it shows the beacons lighted. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

01-26-2004, 12:37 AM	#4
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	I just hope this doesn't mean they won't win the Oscars. The Golden Globe winners don't usually win at the Oscars We will really be able to tell when the Director's Guild Awards are given on February 7th. The majority of the time a director wins at the DGA they win at the Oscar's, so in 2 more weeks we will get a better idea. Here is a link to the research I did about the DGA Awards and Oscar Awards: http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...&threadid=9954 The only competition RotK will have in my opinion is Mystic River... __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

01-26-2004, 01:06 AM	#5
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	agreed. everything else is overrated. and you're right, the oscar best pic winner always chooses a diff BP than the GG's that sucks . __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

01-26-2004, 02:52 AM	#8
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	Mutually agreed winners 2001: A Beautiful Mind 2000: Gladiator 1999: American Beauty 1997: Titanic 1996: The English Patient 1994: Forrest Gump 1993: Schindler's List __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

01-26-2004, 01:09 AM	#6
thranduil Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 345	I wasn't expecting it too win, but he did thank tolkein for writing that novel and gave him recognition.

01-26-2004, 10:37 AM	#10
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	how did cold mountain do, that and mystic river is lotrs biggest competition __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

01-26-2004, 10:53 AM	#11
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	And you hear thge Gondor theme when Boromir is talking at the Council of Elrond, and in the Osgiliath scene in TTT : EE, but our first real intro is as Pipping and Gandalf ride into the city, but I love the Beacons lighting music too. oh yeah, RotK won best Picture as well. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

01-26-2004, 11:17 AM	#12
Thorin II Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 161	I didn't realize the AA and the GG agreed so often. That's a good thing! I suspect Mystic River win either Best Director or Best Picture; it's hard to imagine ROTK sweeping both. __________________ "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

01-26-2004, 04:29 PM	#14
dawningoftime Enting Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 90	This is something that I found interesting. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...DGNU4HO9M1.DTL __________________ Audio Editor

01-26-2004, 09:15 PM	#16
Lady Ravyn Thief Queen of Entmoot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oh, I just wander around, aimlessly... Posts: 1,060	when did it win best drama??? it's a drama? did anyone get "drama" out of it? action -drama maybe, but not box-of-tissues-mascara-running drama! __________________ smooch Proud Member of the Evil Mooters and upstanding citizen of the Planet Bob! And all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be... My Space! Cynicism is what happens when a person opens their eyes; stops blinking in the sun, and starts wondering "why". Question everything, believe only that which you yourself deem true. Go ahead- Call me cynical.

01-27-2004, 12:16 AM	#20
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Please, JD doesn't hate the MOVIES. He hates all human life that has anything to do with the movies in any way shape or form, which means YOU buddy. Yea that's right, you, the person reading this message. Awww he's just an old softy, give JD a pizza and a glass of ice tea and he'll love you for life so long as he gets to call PJ a word that sounds like 'back'. Anyways, moving right along; 'here here!' I can't say that it was a terribly good movie for the BOOKS, but I'll say that as a stand alone those are the best movies I have yet to see . They do a so-so job of showing the books, but it's enough that I enjoy allowing some of the visuals to seep into my ideas of the books.

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