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Old 05-15-2007, 09:03 PM   #1
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Discussion for 'Demaethor and Amariel'

The thread is called 'Aw, heck, this has no name,' and was (is being) posted by me. At the time that I started posting the story contained in it, I had no title for the story. But since I have been calling it--as sort of a 'working title,' if you will--"Demaethor and Amariel." It is the story of two people at the time of Akallabêth, the Downfall of Numenor as told in the Silmarillion. I've been writing the story for almost two years now, after it was abandoned as an RPG. It became quite bigger and longer than I originally intended, I have to say.

But I am nearly finished with the story. It's been very hard to get the final chapters out, especially as I have had very little feed-back from anyone--here and in RL it's been kind of difficult to get readers, or at least commentors.

I'm not asking for praise or anything by starting this thread: it's for feed-back and discussion on the story, the writing, the characters etc. My biggest reason for soliciting discussion and comments is because I'm nervous about wrapping the story up. I need some ideas on where to end it, how to end it..

So, yeah. If anyone wants to discuss with me, please feel free. Thanks for your time.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:12 PM   #2
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GREAT story!!!

PS: I can change the story title, if you like.
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:33 PM   #3
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And introducing the above poster, my credited co-story-teller, the amazing Valandil! Yeah, Val, it is a good story.

And could you really change the title? That would be awesome of you.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:07 PM   #4
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Title changed. (That is, you did want 'Demaethor and Amariel' as title, right?)

If you're looking for inspiration when to end the story, I think the departure of the Nine boats of Elendil, or the destruction of Númenor may be a good final act.
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:11 PM   #5
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Thanks!

I am thinking of 'ending' the story at the actual 'Downfall,' but as that's a little dour... I'd like to end it with a happier note. But you see, almost as soon as the exiles get to Middle-Earth, they discover Sauron's followed them, and there's the whole Last Alliance-first overthrow of Mordor thing... so the whole time-frame doesn't level out to a time of peace until about 130ish years later... at which time Dem and Am might still be alive, but it's kind of far to go in a story.

I was thinking of ending the main story with the 'Fall', and doing a sort of epilogue afterward.
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Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor.
Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again,
How can I take this losing hand and somehow win?

Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground.
I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found
One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down.
I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:39 PM   #6
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Sounds cool!

You have a link to the story, or did you post it already?
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:48 AM   #7
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Thanks!

I am thinking of 'ending' the story at the actual 'Downfall,' but as that's a little dour... I'd like to end it with a happier note. But you see, almost as soon as the exiles get to Middle-Earth, they discover Sauron's followed them, and there's the whole Last Alliance-first overthrow of Mordor thing... so the whole time-frame doesn't level out to a time of peace until about 130ish years later... at which time Dem and Am might still be alive, but it's kind of far to go in a story.

I was thinking of ending the main story with the 'Fall', and doing a sort of epilogue afterward.
Actually, from everything I gather with what Tolkien wrote on it, it was some time before the Dunedain realized that Sauron had survived the Downfall and re-established himself in Mordor. So actually... the old Epilogue I suggested could work - and is a nice, short way to put it to rest, a few years having passed since the arrival on the shores of Middle-earth (I think I still have it in a sent message, if you don't still have it).
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And introducing the above poster, my credited co-story-teller, the amazing Valandil! Yeah, Val, it is a good story.
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And... I think you did so at the start of the story, but let's also give much credit to Beor!

The story concept was yours from the start though, and you did a great job carrying it on.
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