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Old 11-17-2004, 11:55 AM   #21
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Chani rules!! I haven't seen the movie, but she is so cool in the books. I don't have a crush on her though, only on eligible knights...
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:10 PM   #22
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galadriel... not the movie one

outside tolkien?

tough call... scout finch from "to kill a mockingbird" is probably my all-time favorite literary female... but she's a bit young in that book... maybe in ten years or so
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:42 PM   #23
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And until I can make a fuller list of my own, I have two words. Prince. Caspian.

*swoon*
*swoons alongside of sun-star*
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:48 PM   #24
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Ummm guys.... wasn't he about 15?

Scout Finch rules! Maybe a grown-up Scout eh Brownie?
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Old 11-17-2004, 02:44 PM   #25
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Ummm guys.... wasn't he about 15?
Not in the Dawn Treader, I think. He is a bit wussy in Prince Caspian but after that he's all grown up and kingly... And he gets married at the end of DT, so I guess he's only a couple of years older than me.

But R*an's still old enough to be his mother

EDIT: Thought of another one - Eugene Wrayburn from Our Mutual Friend. Be patient with me, I'm at an all-girls college
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Old 11-17-2004, 05:04 PM   #26
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Not in the Dawn Treader, I think. He is a bit wussy in Prince Caspian but after that he's all grown up and kingly... And he gets married at the end of DT, so I guess he's only a couple of years older than me.
You beat me to it - yes, he marries Ramandu's daughter - that hussy!

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But R*an's still old enough to be his mother
But halfelven time, like Narnian time, flows differently ....
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Old 11-17-2004, 05:27 PM   #27
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You beat me to it - yes, he marries Ramandu's daughter - that hussy!
Never could tell what he saw in her...

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But halfelven time, like Narnian time, flows differently ....
If you say so
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For centuries to come, when not a soul
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When England is not England, when mankind
Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea,
Consolingly disastrous, will return
While the strange starfish, hugely magnified,
Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:36 PM   #28
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The Chani in the dune miniseries was WAY too water-fat. And I will NEVER EVER get over Paul being played by bum-face in the movie.
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Old 11-18-2004, 08:48 AM   #29
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Darcy (JA's novel) is quite a fellow. I also liked Simon from the Dragonbone chair series.
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:13 AM   #30
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My Tolkien-crushes are Faramir and Boromir, totally. That's Tolkien, mind you, not Jackson. Although Sean Bean is pretty good as Boromir.
Non-Tolkien include-

Gilbert Blythe (Anne of Green Gables)- so sweet.

Lancelot (Idylls of the King)- what a hunk.

Jack O'Malley (The O'Malley Series)- funny, romantic.

Tavington (The Patriot)- there's something in those beautiful eyes every now and again that tells you he cannot really be evil.
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:22 AM   #31
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Pah, Simon was annoying! Never finished that series...

Have missed quite alot of good female characters me thinks...the best tend to be male (...possible I read to many male authors ). But Arya must be one of my all-time favorites. And that girl in Hobb's first triology.
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:38 AM   #32
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Pah, Simon was annoying! Never finished that series...
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It was the book-cover that I fell in love with, Michael Whelan did the art. Simon looks sooo rad holding the white arrow, Thorn (sword), and standing so tall and stern. Ok so it's Whelan's painting I'm in love with....
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:53 AM   #33
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Well if we're widening it out to artwork that allows graphic novels - so I'm gonna say Halo Jones. What a gal!
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:02 AM   #34
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Or Goku from DragonBallZ! Erm, never mind that Chi Chi would kick my ass.

How much does Goku rule though? How much!!
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*rises above unwarented personal attacks on subject of love life*
*notes sun-star's status as single*

You know, maybe I don't read enough, but I've always felt better admiring the individual aspects and traits of real people. Am I alone on this one?
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Of course not, but we're just having some harmless fun here Janny.
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Old 11-18-2004, 04:28 PM   #37
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No, no, I'm not knocking it. I just meant that I actually find it really hard to be moved by fictional people when the world is so amply populated with real people. I meant to ask if I was alone in not being able to have a fictional (or even celebrity) crush.
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Ugh - I don't have ANY celebrity crushes!

The fictional crushes are being highly (repeat - HIGHLY) exaggerated for fun
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a) no, you don't read enough

b) we're kidding

EDIT: Also, I would argue that fictional crushes and celebrity crushes aren't really the same thing. All you can know about a celebrity is their image, and so the closest thing to a relationship you can have with them is likely to be your own imaginative construction (not to shatter anyone's dreams here, guys ). You don't know anything about who they are, just who you'd like them to be. With fictional characters, on the other hand, you really can get inside their heads. You can follow their experiences, thoughts and development, often over a long period. Most likely you know their interior life better than you know that of a person you've got a crush on in real life. It's impossible for a fictional crush to be entirely physical, as celebrity crushes are - there has to be some element of admiring the character's personality as well. So really it makes more sense to have crushes on fictional characters than on real people you don't know anything about.

Also, this kind of reaction to a character is part of the novel-reading process. Most novels encourage readers to be attracted to their characters, and in some novels you could argue that it's the author's intention for you to fancy their character - Jane Austen wants you as a reader to find Darcy attractive, because otherwise you don't get why Lizzy likes him. L.M. Montgomery wants you to find Gilbert sweet because then not only do you understand why Anne likes him, but you accepts the message she's putting across in the character (he's self-sacrificing and loyal => self-sacrifice and loyalty are good) and you get emotionally involved in the plot because you want Anne and Gilbert to get together. If you don't have strong reactions to the characters, the author's failed to make you believe in them.

It only gets a bit dubious if you know it's against the grain of the novel's intention - as it is with Narnia, I'm afraid. No way did C.S. Lewis want little girls to fall in love with Caspian! But as any lit student will tell you, reading against the grain is seriously fun

And as I said, we're only kidding. I didn't mean to write such an essay... but I gave this some thought because it's such a common reader response that it's not really fair to see it as an abnormality, Janny
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