Will Sirius Return - Page 3

Spock · 09-11-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fimbrethil

Are you agreeing with me?

Indeed!

Fimbrethil · 09-12-2004, 08:44 PM

Well, then thank you.

Spock · 09-13-2004, 10:22 AM

Anon? I'm impressed.

Elessar the Elfstone · 09-13-2004, 12:22 PM

Fimbrethil I don't think you should critisize threads you personally don't agree with.

nobody will know if anything will happen with sirius untill we have all read both book 6 and book 7 I only started this thread to hear peoples opinions

And Fimbrethil I've read the last few chapters of the book and lots of people say he's gone but nobody says dead, nowhere does it officially state he is dead.

If anyone does find a quote that say the words sirius if dead please tell me!

Elessar the Elfstone · 09-13-2004, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Elessar the Elfstone

Fimbrethil I don't think you should critisize threads you personally don't agree with.

sorry about that it's just this is my first thread I've started that a decent amount of people have replied to, sorry.

Pytt · 09-14-2004, 03:24 PM

if sirius would gome back? certainly i hope so,because i like the character, but i don't see why he should. off course he is a great wisard in the battle against voldemort, but there is other who is just as great as he is. unless rowling makes him come back if he is important to the story, whit some information for harry abput some urgent matters. or dumbeldor for that matter. but i don't think so.

Fimbrethil · 09-14-2004, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spock

Anon? I'm impressed.

Well, thank you. I try to use an advanced vocabulary when I can but usually I'm just lucky if I spell it right.

It's understandable that you wouldn't want your thread critized. Who does? But the whole point of this website is to bascially discuss opinion isn't it? I mena none of us (as far as I know) are in anyones inner circle (the authers Tolkien, Rowling, and Lucas or the director Jackson. I'm including the HP movie directors becuase I'm still sore about the disgusting third movie) so this is all basically what we think? That's what I think. If you don't like it then ignore it.

Elessar the Elfstone · 09-29-2004, 11:36 AM

Quote:

If you don't like it then ignore it.

well put (I think

)

tolkienfan · 03-28-2005, 08:06 PM

I think that if he does come back it will be in an unexpected way. After all, Lily and James died, didn't they! They come back in all sorts of ways!

inked · 03-28-2005, 11:29 PM

See JK Rowlings remarks about this subject at:

http://www.madamscoop.org/themes/therules.htm

She states clearly and repeatedly in the interviews extracted and cited that no magic can raise the truly dead as a ground rule in her universe . That doesn't mean there can't be some communication - as in the Mirror of Erised, prior incantatem, etc.

Spock · 03-29-2005, 09:00 AM

Indeed, clear as a Muggle can put it.

strider8 · 03-29-2005, 01:01 PM

I would like that to happen but I doubt it will

Spock · 03-29-2005, 02:45 PM

A few from the quoted url: One of the rules she has for her books is that "Magic cannot bring dead people back to life…. Once you’re dead, you’re dead."
No magic power can resurrect a truly dead person.

tolkienfan · 03-30-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by inked

That doesn't mean there can't be some communication - as in the Mirror of Erised, prior incantatem, etc.

Exactly! (interesting link btw)

emily leonard · 04-29-2005, 12:26 PM

wishfull thinkin bt it ant goin 2 hapin bt he might of left sumthim behind!

Elessar the Elfstone · 05-13-2005, 03:25 PM

i never asked if sirius would be broughtback from the dead, I just wondered if there would be possibly some sort of reencarnation possibly into a dog or some sort of communication with harry in some way

PS i'm very glad my thread is still going after nearly a whole year!

**Nurvingiel** · 05-13-2005, 04:30 PM

Are you guys really sure he's dead? All he did was fall behind a veil in the Department of Mysteries. Meh.

But seriously, given that Voldemort keeps ressurtecting himself, and no one is as they seem, I think Sirius very well could return from where ever he is. (Though the text did have a final note, I'll give you that.)

Elessar the Elfstone · 05-13-2005, 04:38 PM

i'm glad i'm not te only one wo considers the possibillity of sirius being alive

i thought maybe the veil was the entrance to a place inbetween life and death,

Pytt · 05-13-2005, 04:41 PM

I haven't reallt thought about it, but I can't say I'm convinced he's dead. Agree about place between life and death. But I am far from sure. And how should he get out?

**Nurvingiel** · 05-13-2005, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elessar the Elfstone

i thought maybe the veil was the entrance to a place inbetween life and death,

I think this is true - and it's probably the biggest obstacle to our theory.

09-12-2004, 08:44 PM	#42
Fimbrethil My microwave speaks to me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Having conversations with my major household appliances. Posts: 937	Well, then thank you. __________________ Bah, Bah black sheep have oyu any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full! One for the master, one for the dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane! Bah, bah black sheep have you any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full. I'll be gone for a while. But never fear! "I shall return anon!"

09-13-2004, 10:22 AM	#43
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Anon? I'm impressed. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

09-14-2004, 03:24 PM	#46
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	if sirius would gome back? certainly i hope so,because i like the character, but i don't see why he should. off course he is a great wisard in the battle against voldemort, but there is other who is just as great as he is. unless rowling makes him come back if he is important to the story, whit some information for harry abput some urgent matters. or dumbeldor for that matter. but i don't think so. __________________ Don't Panic!

03-28-2005, 08:06 PM	#49
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	I think that if he does come back it will be in an unexpected way. After all, Lily and James died, didn't they! They come back in all sorts of ways! __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

03-28-2005, 11:29 PM	#50
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	See JK Rowlings remarks about this subject at: http://www.madamscoop.org/themes/therules.htm She states clearly and repeatedly in the interviews extracted and cited that no magic can raise the truly dead as a ground rule in her universe . That doesn't mean there can't be some communication - as in the Mirror of Erised, prior incantatem, etc. __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

09-13-2004, 12:22 PM	#44
Elessar the Elfstone Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Usually located Bree Inn of the prancing pony Posts: 59	Fimbrethil I don't think you should critisize threads you personally don't agree with. nobody will know if anything will happen with sirius untill we have all read both book 6 and book 7 I only started this thread to hear peoples opinions And Fimbrethil I've read the last few chapters of the book and lots of people say he's gone but nobody says dead, nowhere does it officially state he is dead. If anyone does find a quote that say the words sirius if dead please tell me!

03-29-2005, 09:00 AM	#51
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Indeed, clear as a Muggle can put it. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

03-29-2005, 01:01 PM	#52
strider8 Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a spaceship, floating in your puny planet's atmosphere, awaiting orders to invade Posts: 292	I would like that to happen but I doubt it will

03-29-2005, 02:45 PM	#53
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	A few from the quoted url: One of the rules she has for her books is that "Magic cannot bring dead people back to life…. Once you’re dead, you’re dead." No magic power can resurrect a truly dead person. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

04-29-2005, 12:26 PM	#55
emily leonard Enting Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: on the moon but i do vist earth now and again Posts: 57	wishfull thinkin bt it ant goin 2 hapin bt he might of left sumthim behind!

05-13-2005, 03:25 PM	#56
Elessar the Elfstone Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Usually located Bree Inn of the prancing pony Posts: 59	i never asked if sirius would be broughtback from the dead, I just wondered if there would be possibly some sort of reencarnation possibly into a dog or some sort of communication with harry in some way PS i'm very glad my thread is still going after nearly a whole year!

05-13-2005, 04:38 PM	#58
Elessar the Elfstone Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Usually located Bree Inn of the prancing pony Posts: 59	i'm glad i'm not te only one wo considers the possibillity of sirius being alive i thought maybe the veil was the entrance to a place inbetween life and death,

05-13-2005, 04:41 PM	#59
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	I haven't reallt thought about it, but I can't say I'm convinced he's dead. Agree about place between life and death. But I am far from sure. And how should he get out? __________________ Don't Panic!

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