Riddling.

F.B.-B. · 03-25-2002, 04:50 AM

In keeping true to the tradition established in The Hobbit, it would seem that Riddling is in order! Forgive me if there is already a thread to this effect which I have not seen. I have spoken to many people, and one thing that most seem to agree with, is that the riddling was a wonderful key component of the stories.

And so, feel free to post your riddles! Trivia, original riddles pertaining to TLotR, riddles about yourselves in the manner of Bilbo when he encountered Smaug, all are welcome!

Here is a little one to start you off:

Beginning in the Leafed Lands,
First eastern of Eriador
Thrice found in stunning Greenwoods' grounds,
Second in South, to evil's door.
Twice battled in the Lands of Plains,
Once and once in Osg'liath's moor.
But ended with the sight of Seas,
Greenleaf's child, being of noldor.

Khadrane · 03-25-2002, 10:49 AM

Ummm... I'm not to good with riddles. Is is Legolas maybe?

F.B.-B. · 03-25-2002, 07:17 PM

Excellent, Khadrane! You unraveled that one much faster than I expected. Yes, it is Legolas. The key (other than the obvious references to location,) is, as you have probably already discovered, in the lettering. Beginning in the Leafed Lands: Beginning, so first letter, in Leafed Lands, thus L. And so on.

Hmm. I'll have to think of another. I'll get back to you on that!

My respects.

Khadrane · 03-25-2002, 07:23 PM

Wow. I didn't notice the lettering thingy. Cool.

F.B.-B. · 03-25-2002, 08:30 PM

Oh, dear. I think I just gave away a key to many riddles I could have written. I'll have to think of something else now!

My mind is not being cooperative about writing riddles, so I will do trivia:

1. What two characters had a quarrel over who the fairest maiden who lived was? For extra credit, what did each threaten the other with?

2. Name three names each which Aragorn and Gandalf were known by, and for extra credit, list their meanings.

3. What day each year according to the modern calendar would you celebrate the anniversary of the fall of Sauron? (Hint: January 1st corresponds to Mersday, Afteryule 12th.)

Starr Polish · 03-25-2002, 08:46 PM

1. Gimli and Faramir. Faramir a sword? and Gimli an axe
2. Gandalf, Mithrandir (Grey Pilgrim) and Olorin. Aragorn, Strider, Ellessar (sp) and Estel (hope)

F.B.-B. · 03-25-2002, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Starr Polish
1. Gimli and Faramir. Faramir a sword? and Gimli an axe
2. Gandalf, Mithrandir (Grey Pilgrim) and Olorin. Aragorn, Strider, Ellessar (sp) and Estel (hope)

Gimli, yes. Faramir, no. Sword and axe, yes.

All of the rest, yes!

Good job, Starr! I'll have to think of some more for you.

Menelvagor · 03-25-2002, 11:25 PM

1. Gimli, Eomer
2. Strider, Elessar (elf stone), Estel (Hope), Thorongil, Wingfoot (Eomer gave him that one)
Mithrandir (Grey Pilgim), Stormcrow, Lathspell (Illnews)
3. January first in Gondor, March 25 everywhere else

Good questions, got any more?

Starr Polish · 03-25-2002, 11:54 PM

Eomer? Really? Huh.

I'm ready for some more!

F.B.-B. · 03-26-2002, 12:04 AM

Yes, certianly I have more, if you want them! (There are ten posted on another thread: "Urgent help requested, please!!", if I remember right, which you might want to try your hand at.)

For now:
Movie-watcher's mind benders. In each of these questions, the movie was incorrect, or misleading, and so please give the book answers!

1. Who said, "A change is coming. I can feel it in the earth. I can feel it in the water. I can smell it in the air."?

2. Who did Arwen give her star-like pendant to?

3. How much time passed between Bilbo's eleventy-first birthday, and when Frodo left the Shire?

4. What was the force working against them when they tried to cross the Redhorn?

5. Who killed Ugluk?

More later. Happy guessing.

Starr Polish · 03-26-2002, 12:10 AM

1. Treebeard, in ROTK
2. Frodo, kind of his 'ticket' to go to the Grey Havens, right?
3. 17 years
4. Sauron (?)
5. Gah...for some reason I want to say Shelob

Not too bad, methinks, for having read it only one time and not having the book handy

F.B.-B. · 03-26-2002, 12:30 AM

One through three, right on the nose! (Or beak, or snout, if you prefer.) Definately not bad! Four and five could use another try.

Congratulations on 500 posts! I'll be there someday, hopefully.

A few more brain teasers:

Theme: Location

1. Dol Guldar is in what forest?

2. What is another name for the Chambers of Fire?

3. Lothlorien is in what modern country?

4. Numenor/The Westeresse corresponds to what legendary realm?

5. Where was Strider raised?

6. In what Farthing is Hobbiton?

7. What wood lies north of Bree?

8. What kind of realm was Angmar?

9. What river did one traverse fo reach the Seas from the Grey Havens?

(Your turn! I want to try my hand at it! Joking, but do feel free to post any you want.)

Nibs · 03-26-2002, 12:38 AM

Crimony... I'll stick with riddles, thank you. Here's a try:

Mercy unweilding
Pinnacle unyielding
Red at tip
With cold, cruel whip
No square of three
Could pass by thee

Pretty simple and easy, I'd say. These are fun to write.

F.B.-B. · 03-26-2002, 12:54 AM

Yes, these are very fun, aren't they? Let me see... Oroduin, perhaps?

Here's one for you:

Death comes without death
Light becomes dark, and dark light.
Living unliving in shadows by day,
Thrice three exist in the night.

Nazgûl Queen · 03-26-2002, 01:36 AM

I'm not good at riddles but I'll give it a try.

From F.B - B:
4. What was the force working against them when they tried to cross the Redhorn?
A= Wasn't it Caradhras itself?

5. Who killed Ugluk?
A= Eomer, dismounting and fighting him swrod-to-sword

1. Dol Guldar is in what forest?
A= Mirkwood?

2. What is another name for the Chambers of Fire?
A= Sammath Naur. Its on Mount Doom

3. Lothlorien is in what modern country?
A= Um....

4. Numenor/The Westeresse corresponds to what legendary realm?
A= Atlantis

5. Where was Strider raised?
A= Rivendell

6. In what Farthing is Hobbiton?
A= Eastfarthing?

7. What wood lies north of Bree?
A= Chetwood

8. What kind of realm was Angmar?
A= A stronghold... mountainous... evil....

9. What river did one traverse fo reach the Seas from the Grey Havens?
A= Lune

Death comes without death
Light becomes dark, and dark light.
Living unliving in shadows by day,
Thrice three exist in the night.
A= The pass of the dead?

From Nibs:
Mercy unweilding
Pinnacle unyielding
Red at tip
With cold, cruel whip
No square of three
Could pass by thee
A= Caradhras

F.B.-B. · 03-26-2002, 02:11 AM

My, you are well versed!

Set one:
4.& 5. Yes to both.
Set two:
1.& 2. Yes. 3. Well, that's about as close an answer as I am likely to get. Keep working on it. Take a few wild guesses. 4, 5, 6, 7: Yes. 8. Yes, but I was actually meaning in the title: "The (blank) Realm of Angamar. 9. Yes.
Riddle: No. Think, Nazgul Queen, think.

Hmm, I'll have to think of more soon!

Nazgûl Queen · 03-26-2002, 04:02 AM

*hits herself on the head*

Of course! How could I be so stupid?
The answer is, of course the Nazgul!!!

And is it the Dark Realm of Angmar? I know it belongs to the With King...

And Lothlorien is in New Zealand.... but its probably in Britain...

Nibs · 03-26-2002, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by F.B.-B.
Death comes without death
Light becomes dark, and dark light.
Living unliving in shadows by day,
Thrice three exist in the night.

That's the Ringwraiths, Nazgul, what you will. Definitely.

Good job, Nazgul Queen... I nearly didn't see that you answered mine. I have to wonder why you didn't get F.B.-B.s'...

Here's another:

No clear descent
Nor from where sent
But there indeed
At dire need
Along river and tree
He helps the weary

Nazgûl Queen · 03-26-2002, 05:40 PM

Quote:

No clear descent
Nor from where sent
But there indeed
At dire need
Along river and tree
He helps the weary

Must be Tom Bombadil.
And I did answer the other one about the Nazgul before you :P

Nibs · 03-26-2002, 05:58 PM

Well, when I started authoring my reply you hadn't.

Yes, it's Tom Bombadil. Good form, my leige.

Here's another:

Out from the West
Predecessor blest
A fair pale glow
No kin to show
The heirloom of ancestry
Now shines inconsistently

This is a toughie... Good luck!

03-25-2002, 04:50 AM	#1
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	Riddling. In keeping true to the tradition established in The Hobbit, it would seem that Riddling is in order! Forgive me if there is already a thread to this effect which I have not seen. I have spoken to many people, and one thing that most seem to agree with, is that the riddling was a wonderful key component of the stories. And so, feel free to post your riddles! Trivia, original riddles pertaining to TLotR, riddles about yourselves in the manner of Bilbo when he encountered Smaug, all are welcome! Here is a little one to start you off: Beginning in the Leafed Lands, First eastern of Eriador Thrice found in stunning Greenwoods' grounds, Second in South, to evil's door. Twice battled in the Lands of Plains, Once and once in Osg'liath's moor. But ended with the sight of Seas, Greenleaf's child, being of noldor. __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-25-2002, 10:49 AM	#2
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	Ummm... I'm not to good with riddles. Is is Legolas maybe? __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-25-2002, 07:17 PM	#3
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	Excellent, Khadrane! You unraveled that one much faster than I expected. Yes, it is Legolas. The key (other than the obvious references to location,) is, as you have probably already discovered, in the lettering. Beginning in the Leafed Lands: Beginning, so first letter, in Leafed Lands, thus L. And so on. Hmm. I'll have to think of another. I'll get back to you on that! My respects. __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-25-2002, 07:23 PM	#4
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	Wow. I didn't notice the lettering thingy. Cool. __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-25-2002, 08:30 PM	#5
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	Oh, dear. I think I just gave away a key to many riddles I could have written. I'll have to think of something else now! My mind is not being cooperative about writing riddles, so I will do trivia: 1. What two characters had a quarrel over who the fairest maiden who lived was? For extra credit, what did each threaten the other with? 2. Name three names each which Aragorn and Gandalf were known by, and for extra credit, list their meanings. 3. What day each year according to the modern calendar would you celebrate the anniversary of the fall of Sauron? (Hint: January 1st corresponds to Mersday, Afteryule 12th.) __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-25-2002, 08:46 PM	#6
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	1. Gimli and Faramir. Faramir a sword? and Gimli an axe 2. Gandalf, Mithrandir (Grey Pilgrim) and Olorin. Aragorn, Strider, Ellessar (sp) and Estel (hope) __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-25-2002, 11:25 PM	#8
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	1. Gimli, Eomer 2. Strider, Elessar (elf stone), Estel (Hope), Thorongil, Wingfoot (Eomer gave him that one) Mithrandir (Grey Pilgim), Stormcrow, Lathspell (Illnews) 3. January first in Gondor, March 25 everywhere else Good questions, got any more?

03-25-2002, 11:54 PM	#9
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Eomer? Really? Huh. I'm ready for some more! __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 12:04 AM	#10
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	Yes, certianly I have more, if you want them! (There are ten posted on another thread: "Urgent help requested, please!!", if I remember right, which you might want to try your hand at.) For now: Movie-watcher's mind benders. In each of these questions, the movie was incorrect, or misleading, and so please give the book answers! 1. Who said, "A change is coming. I can feel it in the earth. I can feel it in the water. I can smell it in the air."? 2. Who did Arwen give her star-like pendant to? 3. How much time passed between Bilbo's eleventy-first birthday, and when Frodo left the Shire? 4. What was the force working against them when they tried to cross the Redhorn? 5. Who killed Ugluk? More later. Happy guessing. __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-26-2002, 12:10 AM	#11
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	1. Treebeard, in ROTK 2. Frodo, kind of his 'ticket' to go to the Grey Havens, right? 3. 17 years 4. Sauron (?) 5. Gah...for some reason I want to say Shelob Not too bad, methinks, for having read it only one time and not having the book handy __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 12:30 AM	#12
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	One through three, right on the nose! (Or beak, or snout, if you prefer.) Definately not bad! Four and five could use another try. Congratulations on 500 posts! I'll be there someday, hopefully. A few more brain teasers: Theme: Location 1. Dol Guldar is in what forest? 2. What is another name for the Chambers of Fire? 3. Lothlorien is in what modern country? 4. Numenor/The Westeresse corresponds to what legendary realm? 5. Where was Strider raised? 6. In what Farthing is Hobbiton? 7. What wood lies north of Bree? 8. What kind of realm was Angmar? 9. What river did one traverse fo reach the Seas from the Grey Havens? (Your turn! I want to try my hand at it! Joking, but do feel free to post any you want.) __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-26-2002, 12:38 AM	#13
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Crimony... I'll stick with riddles, thank you. Here's a try: Mercy unweilding Pinnacle unyielding Red at tip With cold, cruel whip No square of three Could pass by thee Pretty simple and easy, I'd say. These are fun to write. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

03-26-2002, 12:54 AM	#14
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	Yes, these are very fun, aren't they? Let me see... Oroduin, perhaps? Here's one for you: Death comes without death Light becomes dark, and dark light. Living unliving in shadows by day, Thrice three exist in the night. __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-26-2002, 01:36 AM	#15
Nazgûl Queen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 400	I'm not good at riddles but I'll give it a try. From F.B - B: 4. What was the force working against them when they tried to cross the Redhorn? A= Wasn't it Caradhras itself? 5. Who killed Ugluk? A= Eomer, dismounting and fighting him swrod-to-sword 1. Dol Guldar is in what forest? A= Mirkwood? 2. What is another name for the Chambers of Fire? A= Sammath Naur. Its on Mount Doom 3. Lothlorien is in what modern country? A= Um.... 4. Numenor/The Westeresse corresponds to what legendary realm? A= Atlantis 5. Where was Strider raised? A= Rivendell 6. In what Farthing is Hobbiton? A= Eastfarthing? 7. What wood lies north of Bree? A= Chetwood 8. What kind of realm was Angmar? A= A stronghold... mountainous... evil.... 9. What river did one traverse fo reach the Seas from the Grey Havens? A= Lune Death comes without death Light becomes dark, and dark light. Living unliving in shadows by day, Thrice three exist in the night. A= The pass of the dead? From Nibs: Mercy unweilding Pinnacle unyielding Red at tip With cold, cruel whip No square of three Could pass by thee A= Caradhras __________________ Morauko Umrien, Queen of the Nazgûl and Lady of Mordor Mistress of the Night The Nazgûl Queen she was, the Ringwraith, the enemy's most terrible servant; darkness went with her and she cried with the voices of death. Can be found loitering at Fantasy Essentials or her livejournal...

03-26-2002, 02:11 AM	#16
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	My, you are well versed! Set one: 4.& 5. Yes to both. Set two: 1.& 2. Yes. 3. Well, that's about as close an answer as I am likely to get. Keep working on it. Take a few wild guesses. 4, 5, 6, 7: Yes. 8. Yes, but I was actually meaning in the title: "The (blank) Realm of Angamar. 9. Yes. Riddle: No. Think, Nazgul Queen, think. Hmm, I'll have to think of more soon! __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-26-2002, 04:02 AM	#17
Nazgûl Queen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 400	hits herself on the head Of course! How could I be so stupid? The answer is, of course the Nazgul!!! And is it the Dark Realm of Angmar? I know it belongs to the With King... And Lothlorien is in New Zealand.... but its probably in Britain... __________________ Morauko Umrien, Queen of the Nazgûl and Lady of Mordor Mistress of the Night The Nazgûl Queen she was, the Ringwraith, the enemy's most terrible servant; darkness went with her and she cried with the voices of death. Can be found loitering at Fantasy Essentials or her livejournal...

03-26-2002, 05:58 PM	#20
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Well, when I started authoring my reply you hadn't. Yes, it's Tom Bombadil. Good form, my leige. Here's another: Out from the West Predecessor blest A fair pale glow No kin to show The heirloom of ancestry Now shines inconsistently This is a toughie... Good luck! __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

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