dwarf women

Marcus · 01-12-2002, 04:03 PM

Does anyone no if there are any dwarf women
where do all the dwarfs come from if there are no women
and since i am assuming no one can answer if there are dwarf women then i will ask another question why not

Menelvagor · 01-12-2002, 05:22 PM

Quote:

It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf women, probably no more than a third the whole people. The seldom walk abroad, except at great need. They are in voice and appearence, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart. This has given rise to the foolish opinion among men that there are no dwarf women, and that the dwarves grow out of stone.
-Lord of the Rings Appendix A, Durin's folk

Marcus · 01-12-2002, 05:37 PM

thanks

do u think they had beards too

Menelvagor · 01-12-2002, 05:55 PM

I suppose they would have to, to be indistinguishable from the men, but I suppose they could just wear fake beards when they travel. What I want to know is, Why?

Marcus · 01-12-2002, 06:19 PM

I have absolutly no idea but i will think about it
if anyone can come up with any ideas then post them it will be interesting to see.

Ñólendil · 01-12-2002, 06:21 PM

It's said in The Peoples of Middle-earth that the Dwarf-women had beards.

Marcus · 01-12-2002, 06:42 PM

ewwww dwarves are sick then
But still
WHY¯¿¿¿

Aragorn · 01-12-2002, 06:54 PM

Can anyone picture teenage girls walking the streets with big hairy beards?

Marcus · 01-12-2002, 07:12 PM

eewwww
can anyone imagine cate blanchett with a beard
or liv tyler

Comic Book Guy · 01-12-2002, 07:29 PM

More than likely they thought it was odd other folks females didn't have beards. They also had beards from the beginning of their life.

"Ah, Doesn't the new baby look cute, he's got his Fathers Beard."

Marcus · 01-12-2002, 07:39 PM

that is funny and sick at the same time
how did the dwarfs go on dates or meet girls
you go up to a Potential female and hit on her and she turns out to be a guy
ewwwwwwwww

ragamuffin92 · 01-12-2002, 07:46 PM

Sounds like life back in the hippie era (late 60s & early 70s). More than once, I saw someone who looked like a woman from the back, but when I went over to say hello, sometimes it turned out that "she" had a beard and sang bass. Happened more than once, and I had 20/20 vision.

Marcus · 01-13-2002, 04:25 AM

what did you do when they were guys and you were hitting on them

did any of them accept the invitation hahah that would be funny

luinilwen · 01-13-2002, 04:39 AM

ragamuffin how does one "sing bass"???

as for me i can't stand having hairy legs let alone... ewwww do you think tolkien made it up that dwarf women were virtually the same in voice and visage as dwarf men simply because he forgot all about them in the hobbit and LOTR and went oh s@#$! i better slip in an appendix about this...

ragamuffin92 · 01-13-2002, 09:43 AM

Marcus, in that situation, when you realized the long-haired "beauty" was a guy, you usually tried to cover up your surprise by saying something like, "Yo, dude, you got a match?" and try to act like you knew all along.

To Luinilwen--
You might be right about Professor T throwing in the description of dwarf women at the last minute. You know, the old "absent-minded professor" syndrome.
Re: "how does one "sing bass"???"
It's just like singing mackerel, only deeper in pitch.

ragamuffin92 · 01-13-2002, 10:08 AM

Bropous, that would explain a lot. The trees that kept jumping out in front of me when I was skiing at Breckinridge looked kind of HOURNISH, and I saw a lift operator with REALLY rough skin, who kept saying things like, "HOOM, hom, don't be hasty, now. There's plenty of room on this Manalla-relouris-sinbellasin... errr, this chairlift."

bropous · 01-13-2002, 02:04 PM

Well, if one were to classify a woman's "beard" as Chaucer did Allisoon's in the "Miller's Tale" from "Canterbury Tales,"....well.....

As for how does one sing bass, I prefer a lot of folks who sing bass...bassically out of earshot!

Or love listening to someone sing tenor....tenor twelve miles away!

Or, for that matter, the beautiful sound of someone singing solo....so lo I can't hear 'em!!!!!

And yes, I forget where it is written in Tolkien's works....but Dwarf wimmen gots beards! And I highly doubt that Dwarf Men can't tell the difference!

afro-elf · 01-13-2002, 02:21 PM

Groans so audibly, that the Balrog awakens.

Kirinki54 · 01-13-2002, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Comic Book Guy
More than likely they thought it was odd other folks females didn't have beards. They also had beards from the beginning of their life.

"Ah, Doesn't the new baby look cute, he's got his Fathers Beard."

Dwarves were born with beards? Is there any basis for this in the texts?

bropous · 01-13-2002, 05:04 PM

Sssssshhhhhh, now now, little Balrog, go back to sleep...

Hush little Balrog, don't say a word...
Papa's gonna buy you a Nazgul bird....
If that Nazgul bird don't fly...
Open your mouth and let the b**tard fry...

[wink!]

01-12-2002, 04:03 PM	#1
Marcus Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 18	dwarf women Does anyone no if there are any dwarf women where do all the dwarfs come from if there are no women and since i am assuming no one can answer if there are dwarf women then i will ask another question why not

01-12-2002, 06:21 PM	#6
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	It's said in The Peoples of Middle-earth that the Dwarf-women had beards. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-12-2002, 06:54 PM	#8
Aragorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere but where I should be. Posts: 369	Can anyone picture teenage girls walking the streets with big hairy beards? __________________ And they carried them to the flatlands But they died along the way And they built up with their bare hands What we still can't do today. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO till the day I die.

01-13-2002, 09:43 AM	#15
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	To Marcus and Luinilwen Marcus, in that situation, when you realized the long-haired "beauty" was a guy, you usually tried to cover up your surprise by saying something like, "Yo, dude, you got a match?" and try to act like you knew all along. To Luinilwen-- You might be right about Professor T throwing in the description of dwarf women at the last minute. You know, the old "absent-minded professor" syndrome. Re: "how does one "sing bass"???" It's just like singing mackerel, only deeper in pitch.

01-13-2002, 10:08 AM	#16
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	High-altitude Ents Bropous, that would explain a lot. The trees that kept jumping out in front of me when I was skiing at Breckinridge looked kind of HOURNISH, and I saw a lift operator with REALLY rough skin, who kept saying things like, "HOOM, hom, don't be hasty, now. There's plenty of room on this Manalla-relouris-sinbellasin... errr, this chairlift."

01-12-2002, 05:37 PM	#3
Marcus Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 18	thanks do u think they had beards too

01-12-2002, 05:55 PM	#4
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	I suppose they would have to, to be indistinguishable from the men, but I suppose they could just wear fake beards when they travel. What I want to know is, Why?

01-12-2002, 06:19 PM	#5
Marcus Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 18	I have absolutly no idea but i will think about it if anyone can come up with any ideas then post them it will be interesting to see.

01-12-2002, 06:42 PM	#7
Marcus Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 18	ewwww dwarves are sick then But still WHY¯¿¿¿

01-12-2002, 07:12 PM	#9
Marcus Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 18	eewwww can anyone imagine cate blanchett with a beard or liv tyler

01-12-2002, 07:29 PM	#10
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	More than likely they thought it was odd other folks females didn't have beards. They also had beards from the beginning of their life. "Ah, Doesn't the new baby look cute, he's got his Fathers Beard."

01-12-2002, 07:39 PM	#11
Marcus Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 18	that is funny and sick at the same time how did the dwarfs go on dates or meet girls you go up to a Potential female and hit on her and she turns out to be a guy ewwwwwwwww

01-12-2002, 07:46 PM	#12
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	Sounds like life back in the hippie era (late 60s & early 70s). More than once, I saw someone who looked like a woman from the back, but when I went over to say hello, sometimes it turned out that "she" had a beard and sang bass. Happened more than once, and I had 20/20 vision.

01-13-2002, 04:25 AM	#13
Marcus Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 18	what did you do when they were guys and you were hitting on them did any of them accept the invitation hahah that would be funny

01-13-2002, 04:39 AM	#14
luinilwen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney AUSTRALIA Posts: 368	ragamuffin how does one "sing bass"??? as for me i can't stand having hairy legs let alone... ewwww do you think tolkien made it up that dwarf women were virtually the same in voice and visage as dwarf men simply because he forgot all about them in the hobbit and LOTR and went oh s@#$! i better slip in an appendix about this...

01-13-2002, 02:04 PM	#17
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Well, if one were to classify a woman's "beard" as Chaucer did Allisoon's in the "Miller's Tale" from "Canterbury Tales,"....well..... As for how does one sing bass, I prefer a lot of folks who sing bass...bassically out of earshot! Or love listening to someone sing tenor....tenor twelve miles away! Or, for that matter, the beautiful sound of someone singing solo....so lo I can't hear 'em!!!!! And yes, I forget where it is written in Tolkien's works....but Dwarf wimmen gots beards! And I highly doubt that Dwarf Men can't tell the difference! __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

01-13-2002, 02:21 PM	#18
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Groans so audibly, that the Balrog awakens. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-13-2002, 05:04 PM	#20
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Sssssshhhhhh, now now, little Balrog, go back to sleep... Hush little Balrog, don't say a word... Papa's gonna buy you a Nazgul bird.... If that Nazgul bird don't fly... Open your mouth and let the b**tard fry... [wink!] __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

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