So you know...

me9996 · 12-30-2004, 10:20 PM

Harry potter is a warlock (The proper term for a male which)

Of all poeple you should no...

P.S.
This will be my only post here.

**Nurvingiel** · 12-31-2004, 11:01 AM

Not necessarily.

There are many terms for users of magic. If someone practices Wicca, they are a witch no matter their gender.

In the world of fantasy, you can craft your own rules. JK Rowling has determined that male magic practitioners are wizards, and females are witches. It's not incorrect at all, and actually, a lot of fantasy novels use this template.

I'd go on... but you're not going to post here anyway.

dawningoftime · 12-31-2004, 01:46 PM

In terms of British folklore and using the Autherian legands Merlin is a wizard, so it would make sense that Harry is a wizard.

me9996 · 01-02-2005, 12:29 PM

That "school" he goes to is for wicths

sirigorn · 01-02-2005, 02:20 PM

Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry

So it's for witches and wizards. And throughout the book, Harry's been called a wizard, as have all the other magical boys. It all depends on what the author wants to call them, really. There isn't an "Official" name for a male witch, or if there is, there are a lot of others that are used as well.

Elf Girl · 01-02-2005, 04:28 PM

In a fantasy novel, the creator can choose whatever terminology she wants.

me9996 · 01-08-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sirigorn

Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry

So it's for witches and wizards. And throughout the book, Harry's been called a wizard, as have all the other magical boys. It all depends on what the author wants to call them, really. There isn't an "Official" name for a male witch, or if there is, there are a lot of others that are used as well.

You might as well train orcs and elfs in the same building.

Radagast The Brown · 01-08-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by me9996

You might as well train orcs and elfs in the same building.

Yeah - But since Harry is called 'wizard' and Hermione 'witch', and since the school is 'for Witchcraft and Wizardry'... the conclusion is quite obvious. Plus, there's no referance of any 'warlock'.
And as many said JKR can call her characters whatever she wants, and it'd be fine. It's fantasy.

me9996 · 01-09-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Radagast The Brown

Yeah - But since Harry is called 'wizard' and Hermione 'witch', and since the school is 'for Witchcraft and Wizardry'... the conclusion is quite obvious. Plus, there's no referance of any 'warlock'.
And as many said JKR can call her characters whatever she wants, and it'd be fine. It's fantasy.

You have not won yet!

If they all have the same clases they are all whichs or warlock.

Radagast The Brown · 01-09-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by me9996

You have not won yet!

If they all have the same clases they are all whichs or warlock.

First: as said many times, JKR can do whatever she wants in her own world and twist the words and meanings. So all of this debate is quite...*shrug*

Also - why would they all be witches and warlocks though? Can't they all be wizards? (Or whatever the word for female wizard is... if there is one)

***Tessar*** · 01-11-2005, 10:06 PM

This isn't exactly like Wheel of Time where the magic works differently for men and women.

Why shouldn't they be able to learn the same things? Calling someone a witch, wizard, warloc, mage, magi, mystic, seer, or any other volume of names is just... well... different, some times gender based, ways of calling someone ONE thing: a person able to use magic.

**Nurvingiel** · 01-12-2005, 03:47 AM

I agree with Tessar. She could call all the characters Applecakes, and they could all use the same type of magic. What's in a name?

Pytt · 01-12-2005, 09:36 AM

hehe Hogwart School for Plums and Applecakes

or something...
I don't think this discussion have something valuable. it is just complaints.

me9996 · 01-12-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tessar

This isn't exactly like Wheel of Time where the magic works differently for men and women.

Why shouldn't they be able to learn the same things? Calling someone a witch, wizard, warloc, mage, magi, mystic, seer, or any other volume of names is just... well... different, some times gender based, ways of calling someone ONE thing: a person able to use magic.

You still have not won!
A witch and Warlock are the sme thing.
A wizzard has the same name for anybody!
I'm not quite disided on mages but a seer is a forton teller and a myistic is one of a sertin religon put is like a preist!

You cannot pass!

Embladyne · 01-12-2005, 05:50 PM

Part of the process of writing a story is determing what is reality for that workd that story is set in. And for the world of Harry Potter, female practitioners of magic are witches, and male practitioners are wizards. It's and interesting choice of titles, but it may not mean much other than that there are two different names for the same thing.
It's not like Earthsea where witch has a decidedly negative connotation as one who deals in evil and primitive magic while wizard means a man who has had the best training that Earthsea has to offer.

Wayfarer · 01-12-2005, 06:03 PM

Come on, me9996, what are you, like 9 years old?

Witch, Wizard, Warlock, Sorcerer, Magician, Enchanter(ess), Whatever. They're all essentially synonyms, with denotations that are slightly different. The ones that do imply gender aren't particularly picky - a Warlock can be a Male Witch, or a Male Wizard, or a Male Sorcerer, or a Male Demon!. A witch can be 'any woman with magical powers', which is certainly a good enough opposite-gender synonym for 'wizard', which is 'one who practices magic'.

Gah. Get over it already.

Pytt · 01-13-2005, 09:52 AM

agree with Wayfarer.
and Me, it is just stupid to post the same post 3 times! are you 9 years maybe?

***Tessar*** · 01-13-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pytt

and Me, it is just stupid to post the same post 3 times! are you 9 years maybe?

Perhaps you missed the fact that Me9996 didn't mean to post three times. I've seen it happen to other posters, so I personally am going to give him or her the benefit of the doubt.

If you two would bother to check, Me9996 is at least thirteen, not nine, assuming he didn't lie about his age. Considering my own posting history, I can easily believe that he might be thirteen.

Lets all calm down a bit here.

Elf Girl · 01-13-2005, 05:27 PM

Let's just leave this discussion. Nothing is being gained from it and it's not worth getting worked up over.

me9996 · 01-13-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tessar

Perhaps you missed the fact that Me9996 didn't mean to post three times. I've seen it happen to other posters, so I personally am going to give him or her the benefit of the doubt.

If you two would bother to check, Me9996 is at least thirteen, not nine, assuming he didn't lie about his age. Considering my own posting history, I can easily believe that he might be thirteen.

Lets all calm down a bit here.

Thank you for protecting me!

But where did you find my age? (Oh yes, my profile

)
And I still don't know which computer was bugged! (How did I post three times!?)

12-31-2004, 01:46 PM	#3
dawningoftime Enting Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 90	In terms of British folklore and using the Autherian legands Merlin is a wizard, so it would make sense that Harry is a wizard. __________________ Audio Editor

01-02-2005, 02:20 PM	#5
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry So it's for witches and wizards. And throughout the book, Harry's been called a wizard, as have all the other magical boys. It all depends on what the author wants to call them, really. There isn't an "Official" name for a male witch, or if there is, there are a lot of others that are used as well. __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

01-02-2005, 04:28 PM	#6
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	In a fantasy novel, the creator can choose whatever terminology she wants. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

01-12-2005, 09:36 AM	#13
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	hehe Hogwart School for Plums and Applecakes or something... I don't think this discussion have something valuable. it is just complaints. __________________ Don't Panic!

01-12-2005, 05:50 PM	#15
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	Part of the process of writing a story is determing what is reality for that workd that story is set in. And for the world of Harry Potter, female practitioners of magic are witches, and male practitioners are wizards. It's and interesting choice of titles, but it may not mean much other than that there are two different names for the same thing. It's not like Earthsea where witch has a decidedly negative connotation as one who deals in evil and primitive magic while wizard means a man who has had the best training that Earthsea has to offer. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

01-11-2005, 10:06 PM	#11
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	This isn't exactly like Wheel of Time where the magic works differently for men and women. Why shouldn't they be able to learn the same things? Calling someone a witch, wizard, warloc, mage, magi, mystic, seer, or any other volume of names is just... well... different, some times gender based, ways of calling someone ONE thing: a person able to use magic.

01-12-2005, 06:03 PM	#16
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Come on, me9996, what are you, like 9 years old? Witch, Wizard, Warlock, Sorcerer, Magician, Enchanter(ess), Whatever. They're all essentially synonyms, with denotations that are slightly different. The ones that do imply gender aren't particularly picky - a Warlock can be a Male Witch, or a Male Wizard, or a Male Sorcerer, or a Male Demon!. A witch can be 'any woman with magical powers', which is certainly a good enough opposite-gender synonym for 'wizard', which is 'one who practices magic'. Gah. Get over it already. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-13-2005, 09:52 AM	#17
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	agree with Wayfarer. and Me, it is just stupid to post the same post 3 times! are you 9 years maybe? __________________ Don't Panic!

01-13-2005, 05:27 PM	#19
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Let's just leave this discussion. Nothing is being gained from it and it's not worth getting worked up over. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...