would you rather have boromir live or die

gimli7410 · 02-09-2003, 01:29 AM

Hers a question for you lotr fans. Would you rather have boromir live or die. Do you think he would of been a huge help for the fellowship. Dont just say "i'd rather have him live" explain your answer.

Shadowfax · 02-09-2003, 01:32 AM

Let's start with your opinion - since you asked the question, that is. What do you say?

Lady of Rohan · 02-09-2003, 09:37 AM

He might have been a help to the fellowship, he might not have been. He would have eaten more food and they already didn't have enough (or did they?) and he might have argued about going after Frodo and Sam and then he might have won and then they might have gone after them and that would most likely not have been good. If he was alive then the story would have had to change alot unless you where talking about just adding in Boromir and not changing the story?

Well asuming that that is what you ment then Aragorn would have had to ride double as well (with Arod and Hasufel) but then when they got to Edoras things wouldn't have to change much. Just say stuff like "Boromir was walking along silently......." so that people will remember he's there. He would have helped at Helm's Deep (I think) and in all the other war places but he would have been very scared (probably even more scared then Gimli) at The Path of the Dead.

So in other words I have no idea if he would have been a help or a hinderence to the remaining fellowship. THat's why I don't write stories (unless I have to. But then I always write about Sir Alternate. Don't ask) Wow. I've written alot!

Lefty Scaevola · 02-09-2003, 10:19 AM

If he had made it to Minas Tirith, after recognizing what the ring had done to him, he may have avert a major part of Denenther's maddness.

Artanis · 02-09-2003, 10:27 AM

And he would have been sent to Osgiliath instead of, or together with Faramir, and Faramir would not have been lethally hurt, and Eowyn would not have met Faramir in the houses of healing, but would have wedded Boromir instead...

Lady of Rohan · 02-09-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Artanis
And he would have been sent to Osgiliath instead of, or together with Faramir, and Faramir would not have been lethally hurt, and Eowyn would not have met Faramir in the houses of healing, but would have wedded Boromir instead...

Do you take that as a good thing or bad?

Artanis · 02-09-2003, 11:28 AM

It would be a good thing for Boromir

ArwenEvenstar · 02-09-2003, 12:07 PM

it depends, if he was still ring-crazy it would have been better if he was [still] dead but if he saw the error of his ways and wasn't ring-crazy, it would have been ok.

Artanis · 02-09-2003, 12:18 PM

Boromir realized what he had done, and there was no danger that he should revert to being tempted by the Ring again, as long as it was not within his reach.

BUT, if Boromir had come back to Minas Tirith and Denethor hadn't become so mad as to burn himself, Denethor would have been the Steward of Gondor instead of Faramir, and then maybe Aragorn would have a tough time regaining the throne of Gondor.

Aranwe · 02-09-2003, 12:31 PM

If he no longer wanted the ring he'd would have been a help in the battles for certain, but other than that you can't really say. There are an endless number of possibilities... he may have died later at Helms Deep, so then the story afterwards would probably have been the same. Or he could have lived and gone to Osgiliath and died there, or he may have lived and held Osgiliath, which would have changed the battle at Gondor. The whole story could be different.

As for Denethors maddness... this was due to looking into the Palantir, and seeing what Sauron wanted him to see. I don't think Boromir being alive would have made much of a difference, if any.

Dúnedain · 02-09-2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Artanis
Denethor would have been the Steward of Gondor instead of Faramir, and then maybe Aragorn would have a tough time regaining the throne of Gondor.

I would have loved for Denethor to have seen Aragorn again, because then Denethor would realize what had happened to Thorongil after all of those years. Also I doubt very much Aragorn would have had trouble regaining the throne of Gondor for two reasons. First, Boromir grew close to liking Aragorn and realized how great he really was and would be as King of Gondor. Second, the people loved Thorongil (Aragorn) and felt he was the greatest hero of Gondor while he served there.

I think that if Boromir lived on, it would have been a good thing. I think he saw the error in his ways regarding the temptation of the ring. I also think that he would have been of immense help to the war cause. I also don't think he would have been scared at all in going to the paths of the dead and if he was he certainly would not have shown it. The only thing I could see if Boromir would have lived on is that he most likely would have pushed them to keep going on to Gondor or he would have travelled there himself instead of pausing in Rohan and such....

Lefty Scaevola · 02-09-2003, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Artanis
BUT, if Boromir had come back to Minas Tirith and Denethor hadn't become so mad as to burn himself, Denethor would have been the Steward of Gondor instead of Faramir, and then maybe Aragorn would have a tough time regaining the throne of Gondor.

But Broromir was recoginising Aragorn as his Liege at the end of FoFR, and likely would have supported his claims.

gimli7410 · 02-09-2003, 01:51 PM

Personally i would have loved to see boromir live, i think he would have been a great help in the battle of helms deep and many other obstcales legolas,gimli and aragorn faced. As it sai in the book that aragorn saw about 50 bodies before boromir, i think boromir could have been one of the best fighters around. I think he would realize his errors abot he ring.

Artanis · 02-09-2003, 01:52 PM

Answer to Lefty S:
But Denethor would have been Steward, and not Boromir. Denethor was both proud and rather stubborn. I doubt he would have had the same view on the matter as Boromir there. Aragorn would probably choose to wait until Denethor died.

gimli7410 · 02-09-2003, 02:15 PM

But also aragorn would be very healthy when denethor died because he lived till 250 years old

legolas7410 · 02-09-2003, 02:21 PM

I think boromir would have been helpful but he might leave aragorn and legolas to hunt frodo and sam for the ring

gimli7410 · 02-09-2003, 02:26 PM

Yes but the rings power would have been less over boromir from being so far away and aragorn would have stopped him. Also the rings is so far away and boromir didnt know which way they went
(welcome to the moot legolas7410)

gollum9630 · 02-09-2003, 03:09 PM

Personaly, Boromir was a dumbass. All he wants is power, and KArma bit him in the ass. If the orcs didnot kill him, i would hope Aragorn would kill him when he gets pissed off about him always trying to get the ring.

LEGOLAS IS GAY

Blackboar · 02-09-2003, 04:09 PM

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LEGOLAS IS GAY

How can you say that!! Do you know how many fangirls there are on this site that will kick your butt!

LEGOLAS IS NOT GAY!

Radagast The Brown · 02-09-2003, 04:35 PM

I think I'd rather him dead, because he was really evil and i didn't like him from the first time I read about him. (somehow I thought h'll be evil eventually).

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LEGOLAS IS NOT GAY!

is he?

02-09-2003, 01:29 AM	#1
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	would you rather have boromir live or die Hers a question for you lotr fans. Would you rather have boromir live or die. Do you think he would of been a huge help for the fellowship. Dont just say "i'd rather have him live" explain your answer. __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

02-09-2003, 01:32 AM	#2
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	Let's start with your opinion - since you asked the question, that is. What do you say? __________________ Jesus saved me "To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child" (Cicero, 106-43 B.C.) "Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth" (Picasso)

02-09-2003, 10:27 AM	#5
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	And he would have been sent to Osgiliath instead of, or together with Faramir, and Faramir would not have been lethally hurt, and Eowyn would not have met Faramir in the houses of healing, but would have wedded Boromir instead... __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

02-09-2003, 11:28 AM	#7
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	It would be a good thing for Boromir __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

02-09-2003, 12:07 PM	#8
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	it depends, if he was still ring-crazy it would have been better if he was [still] dead but if he saw the error of his ways and wasn't ring-crazy, it would have been ok. __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

02-09-2003, 09:37 AM	#3
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	He might have been a help to the fellowship, he might not have been. He would have eaten more food and they already didn't have enough (or did they?) and he might have argued about going after Frodo and Sam and then he might have won and then they might have gone after them and that would most likely not have been good. If he was alive then the story would have had to change alot unless you where talking about just adding in Boromir and not changing the story? Well asuming that that is what you ment then Aragorn would have had to ride double as well (with Arod and Hasufel) but then when they got to Edoras things wouldn't have to change much. Just say stuff like "Boromir was walking along silently......." so that people will remember he's there. He would have helped at Helm's Deep (I think) and in all the other war places but he would have been very scared (probably even more scared then Gimli) at The Path of the Dead. So in other words I have no idea if he would have been a help or a hinderence to the remaining fellowship. THat's why I don't write stories (unless I have to. But then I always write about Sir Alternate. Don't ask) Wow. I've written alot!

02-09-2003, 10:19 AM	#4
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	If he had made it to Minas Tirith, after recognizing what the ring had done to him, he may have avert a major part of Denenther's maddness.

02-09-2003, 12:18 PM	#9
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Boromir realized what he had done, and there was no danger that he should revert to being tempted by the Ring again, as long as it was not within his reach. BUT, if Boromir had come back to Minas Tirith and Denethor hadn't become so mad as to burn himself, Denethor would have been the Steward of Gondor instead of Faramir, and then maybe Aragorn would have a tough time regaining the throne of Gondor. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die. Last edited by Artanis : 02-09-2003 at 12:19 PM.

02-09-2003, 12:31 PM	#10
Aranwe Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 55	If he no longer wanted the ring he'd would have been a help in the battles for certain, but other than that you can't really say. There are an endless number of possibilities... he may have died later at Helms Deep, so then the story afterwards would probably have been the same. Or he could have lived and gone to Osgiliath and died there, or he may have lived and held Osgiliath, which would have changed the battle at Gondor. The whole story could be different. As for Denethors maddness... this was due to looking into the Palantir, and seeing what Sauron wanted him to see. I don't think Boromir being alive would have made much of a difference, if any.

02-09-2003, 01:51 PM	#13
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	Personally i would have loved to see boromir live, i think he would have been a great help in the battle of helms deep and many other obstcales legolas,gimli and aragorn faced. As it sai in the book that aragorn saw about 50 bodies before boromir, i think boromir could have been one of the best fighters around. I think he would realize his errors abot he ring. __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

02-09-2003, 01:52 PM	#14
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Answer to Lefty S: But Denethor would have been Steward, and not Boromir. Denethor was both proud and rather stubborn. I doubt he would have had the same view on the matter as Boromir there. Aragorn would probably choose to wait until Denethor died. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die. Last edited by Artanis : 02-09-2003 at 01:53 PM.

02-09-2003, 02:15 PM	#15
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	But also aragorn would be very healthy when denethor died because he lived till 250 years old __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

02-09-2003, 02:21 PM	#16
legolas7410 Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: For me to know and you to find out Posts: 35	I think boromir would have been helpful but he might leave aragorn and legolas to hunt frodo and sam for the ring

02-09-2003, 02:26 PM	#17
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	Yes but the rings power would have been less over boromir from being so far away and aragorn would have stopped him. Also the rings is so far away and boromir didnt know which way they went (welcome to the moot legolas7410) __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

02-09-2003, 03:09 PM	#18
gollum9630 Canadian Guy. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The true North Strong and Free Posts: 1,513	Personaly, Boromir was a dumbass. All he wants is power, and KArma bit him in the ass. If the orcs didnot kill him, i would hope Aragorn would kill him when he gets pissed off about him always trying to get the ring. LEGOLAS IS GAY

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