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E, LoR · 01-20-2006, 11:04 AM

good point

MangoPi · 01-21-2006, 05:49 PM

So we are all pretty much in agreement that it is Regulus. (Seems most likely)

Any one want to hazard a guess at how many horcruxes Regulus got to? If he destroyed them? What his motivations were?

Merenwen Vardamir · 01-23-2006, 11:46 AM

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I think Reg had already decided to leave the Death Eaters, like Sirius told Harry in OotP, and was on the run. He knew he would be killed anyway, so he decided to take a Horcrux with him. I'm sure that Voldy never knew this, or he would have searched high and low for the locket. Certainly the false one wouldn't still be there. The big question for me is how Regulus knew about the Horcrux, and how he managed to get past all the protections. Did he drink the potion, somehow get away, and the potion replenished itself (or he made a new batch)? Did he know some trick to get past the potion without drinking it? Or did he swap the lockets before the potion was added? I'm guessing either the first or last option, and that he was somehow involved with helping Voldy set up the cave, around the same time that he changed loyalties (also about the same time Harry was born). Since Voldy was semi-defeated by Harry soon afterwards, he never returned to the cave to check on his Horcrux. Or perhaps he did, but just verified that the potion was still there.

Did the potion have to actually be drunken, because if he were to just dump it, then he would have been able to get rid of it. And if he wasn't drinking it, he would've been strong enough to have a wall of fire around him the entire time to stop the inferi....

Radagast The Brown · 01-23-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Merenwen Vardamir

Did the potion have to actually be drunken, because if he were to just dump it, then he would have been able to get rid of it. And if he wasn't drinking it, he would've been strong enough to have a wall of fire around him the entire time to stop the inferi....

But then why did Dumbeldore drink it?

I think it's unlikely you don't have to drink the potion. So he needed someone else to go with him and help him.

durinsbane2244 · 01-23-2006, 08:56 PM

i don't know if it's just me, and i don't know why DD wasn't thinking, but if he could get the potion with a glass, er, scoop, dump, scoop, dump...doi...[COLOR=Black]

tolkienfan · 01-24-2006, 01:11 AM

I'm sure it wasn't that easy.

Merenwen Vardamir · 01-24-2006, 11:39 AM

But it could've been. The simpilest things are quite often over-looked. For instance, during the Tournament, Harry could've just accio-ed the egg, but he didn't think to. DD could possibly have just dumped it, but didn't think to....

E, LoR · 01-24-2006, 12:13 PM

hmm thats very true

King of The Istari · 01-24-2006, 04:29 PM

Seeing as You couldn't summon water to drink or touch the potion with your bare hands it seems likely not definetly but likely that the potion would have just dissapeared and reapered in the basin.

Radagast The Brown · 01-24-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Merenwen Vardamir

But it could've been. The simpilest things are quite often over-looked. For instance, during the Tournament, Harry could've just accio-ed the egg, but he didn't think to. DD could possibly have just dumped it, but didn't think to....

The only solution I can think of is that it simply would've worked - that the dragon would notice one of her eggs is floating to Harry.

There's no way it would really be so easy, I agree with King of the Istari. Even if Rowling haven't thought about it when she wrote the book - which is possible definitely, I found a lot of contradictions or illogical occurrences in her books - she won't admit and probably say something similar to what KotI (if you don't mind me calling you so, King of the Istari is sort of long) said.

durinsbane2244 · 01-24-2006, 08:45 PM

er....accio pendant...doi2...

tolkienfan · 01-25-2006, 12:32 AM

I think if Harry had just summoned the egg the dragon would have attacked him. So Harry's plan was the best because after he had the egg he could fly away. I guess once he had his broom he could have summoned it...

Merenwen Vardamir · 01-25-2006, 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=Radagast The Brown]The only solution I can think of is that it simply would've worked - that the dragon would notice one of her eggs is floating to Harry.

But as soon as Harry had the egg, the task would've been complete and the dragon 'tamers' would have taken over. So even if it attacked him, they would've prevented him being injured.

King of The Istari · 01-25-2006, 03:50 PM

well if Harry Did just Accio the egg it would have been a very boring chapter is basicly the answer

PS. Radagast KotI is fine

Radagast The Brown · 01-25-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Merenwen Vardamir

But as soon as Harry had the egg, the task would've been complete and the dragon 'tamers' would have taken over. So even if it attacked him, they would've prevented him being injured.

What I meant is that the dragon wouldn't let the egg get to Harry, as he'd see the egg floating to Harry. I don't know really how a dragon could stop an accio spell, but I don't really know what kind of magical powers dragons have.

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PS. Radagast KotI is fine

Ok.

Merenwen Vardamir · 01-26-2006, 12:06 PM

Alright, but I still think there is some other way to get the potion out of the basin.

lol. But, out of curiousity: is there someone that is likely to have been with RAB? Or... *Dramatic music* (Lol) maybe he took a cat with him. Lol.

durinsbane2244 · 01-27-2006, 08:39 PM

er...maybe, just maybe, he asked his mummy out for tea and- no, no...too low-brow even for him...

Merenwen Vardamir · 01-28-2006, 05:01 PM

Lol. Are you sure? lol. Well, I suppose your right. Maybe Creature. lol.

durinsbane2244 · 01-28-2006, 08:38 PM

er, Kreacher...

Merenwen Vardamir · 01-28-2006, 09:41 PM

Yeah, that. Lol. I knew that was a typo. Sorry. lol. I was way tired. lol.

01-20-2006, 11:04 AM	#41
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01-21-2006, 05:49 PM	#42
MangoPi Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Head in hands. Posts: 51	So we are all pretty much in agreement that it is Regulus. (Seems most likely) Any one want to hazard a guess at how many horcruxes Regulus got to? If he destroyed them? What his motivations were? __________________ You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. --Robin Williams Narlyë nat vanya!

01-23-2006, 08:56 PM	#45
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i don't know if it's just me, and i don't know why DD wasn't thinking, but if he could get the potion with a glass, er, scoop, dump, scoop, dump...doi...[COLOR=Black] __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

01-24-2006, 01:11 AM	#46
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	I'm sure it wasn't that easy. __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

01-24-2006, 11:39 AM	#47
Merenwen Vardamir Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ever Lost, Childress. Posts: 93	But it could've been. The simpilest things are quite often over-looked. For instance, during the Tournament, Harry could've just accio-ed the egg, but he didn't think to. DD could possibly have just dumped it, but didn't think to.... __________________ And lo, the beast looked upon the face of beauty. And beauty stayed his hand. And from that day on, he was as one dead. "But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue."

01-24-2006, 12:13 PM	#48
E, LoR Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere else. Posts: 368	hmm thats very true __________________ NEWS FLASH 1. I have a signature 2. I am ready to join forces with Elanor's Angel to kill the rule. Special Let's pant the world in magic in 90 seconds! avatar courtesy of Twista THATS RIGHT FOLK! E, LoR's BACK!

01-24-2006, 04:29 PM	#49
King of The Istari Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Some where quite interesting with psychedelic trees Posts: 124	Seeing as You couldn't summon water to drink or touch the potion with your bare hands it seems likely not definetly but likely that the potion would have just dissapeared and reapered in the basin. __________________ So do all who see such times, but that is not for us to decide, all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us Gandalf And what happened to the rest of your party, killed, eaten, gone home? Beorn, The Hobbit Dark and difficult Times lie ahead Harry, soon we must all face a choice, a choice between what is right and what is easy! Dumbledore Neo Are you listening to Me? Or are you too busy looking at the Woman in the Red Dress? Morpheus, The Matrix

01-24-2006, 08:45 PM	#51
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	er....accio pendant...doi2... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

01-25-2006, 12:32 AM	#52
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	I think if Harry had just summoned the egg the dragon would have attacked him. So Harry's plan was the best because after he had the egg he could fly away. I guess once he had his broom he could have summoned it... __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

01-25-2006, 11:38 AM	#53
Merenwen Vardamir Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ever Lost, Childress. Posts: 93	[QUOTE=Radagast The Brown]The only solution I can think of is that it simply would've worked - that the dragon would notice one of her eggs is floating to Harry. But as soon as Harry had the egg, the task would've been complete and the dragon 'tamers' would have taken over. So even if it attacked him, they would've prevented him being injured. __________________ And lo, the beast looked upon the face of beauty. And beauty stayed his hand. And from that day on, he was as one dead. "But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue." Last edited by Merenwen Vardamir : 01-25-2006 at 11:40 AM.

01-25-2006, 03:50 PM	#54
King of The Istari Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Some where quite interesting with psychedelic trees Posts: 124	well if Harry Did just Accio the egg it would have been a very boring chapter is basicly the answer PS. Radagast KotI is fine __________________ So do all who see such times, but that is not for us to decide, all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us Gandalf And what happened to the rest of your party, killed, eaten, gone home? Beorn, The Hobbit Dark and difficult Times lie ahead Harry, soon we must all face a choice, a choice between what is right and what is easy! Dumbledore Neo Are you listening to Me? Or are you too busy looking at the Woman in the Red Dress? Morpheus, The Matrix

01-26-2006, 12:06 PM	#56
Merenwen Vardamir Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ever Lost, Childress. Posts: 93	Alright, but I still think there is some other way to get the potion out of the basin. lol. But, out of curiousity: is there someone that is likely to have been with RAB? Or... Dramatic music (Lol) maybe he took a cat with him. Lol. __________________ And lo, the beast looked upon the face of beauty. And beauty stayed his hand. And from that day on, he was as one dead. "But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue."

01-27-2006, 08:39 PM	#57
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	er...maybe, just maybe, he asked his mummy out for tea and- no, no...too low-brow even for him... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

01-28-2006, 05:01 PM	#58
Merenwen Vardamir Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ever Lost, Childress. Posts: 93	Lol. Are you sure? lol. Well, I suppose your right. Maybe Creature. lol. __________________ And lo, the beast looked upon the face of beauty. And beauty stayed his hand. And from that day on, he was as one dead. "But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue."

01-28-2006, 08:38 PM	#59
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	er, Kreacher... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

01-28-2006, 09:41 PM	#60
Merenwen Vardamir Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ever Lost, Childress. Posts: 93	Yeah, that. Lol. I knew that was a typo. Sorry. lol. I was way tired. lol. __________________ And lo, the beast looked upon the face of beauty. And beauty stayed his hand. And from that day on, he was as one dead. "But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue."