Book 7: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Page 4

Elfmaster XK · 01-27-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sun-star

I like the sound of Book 7's title. Very Gothic.

Really? I don't like the word deathly at all. And as hallowed is a sacred place, or a place set apart...I dunno. It doesn't seem to quite make sense to me, or sound right. Still, I am hoping for it to come out soon so that the story can do better than the title!

Rána Eressëa · 01-28-2007, 06:53 AM

I think I'm still laughing over this title.

I thought I wouldn't after some time had passed, but eh, it doesn't look like anything's changed.

It's still funny.

Serenoli · 01-29-2007, 02:01 PM

me, too, im afraid. Of all the titles, I am certain I like this the least. Maybe, maybe, if I read the book I'll find out the real meaning and like it, but right now, it seems much too dramatic...

**Nurvingiel** · 01-30-2007, 11:12 PM

I don't think it's too dramatic for this book. I mean, if any author can pull it off, it's Rowling.

What I want to know, is what are the Deadly Hallows? There is no noun "hallow" so it's a place name she has created, which gives it a great deal of potential awesomeness.

Also, I still don't think Dumbledore is dead. I won't believe this unless he hasn't shown up half-way through the book.

jammi567 · 02-01-2007, 11:44 AM

Breaking news: the next book is out on the 21st July!

sisterandcousinandaunt · 02-01-2007, 01:10 PM

who identified herself as an "Inkling", although there's debate about that, killed off Lord Peter Wimsey because he'd become SO famous that she felt her more serious work (like translations of Dante) never got any attention.

I wonder if that kind of concern is in J.K. Rowling's mind...that she's "that Harry Potter woman", and she wants to be recognised for other things.

Bad look-out for Harry, if so.

Master'sBaneSwiftSnowmane · 02-01-2007, 05:42 PM

How do you know? If that's true, I'm already bouncing in my seat...it's time for Mr. Potter to stop ruling my life.

(OOC: I heard Daniel Radcliff was going to attend UVA, silly rumour, I know, but still. I live quite close to UVA and I am aware of several people who have allowed this knowledge to influence there choice of colleges.)

Anyways, I want the mirrors to show back up. For some reason that's the part that's bugging the snot out of me. I don't why, but if they aren't in the first few chapters, I'll probably scream.

I rather like the name of this book. It's very dramatic and what else would this book be? I can't wait to find out what the "Hallows" are. You don't think it's a mistake though do you? Hallow=Hollows...Godric's Hollow...Deathly Hollows (Godric's Hollow where the final battle is fought and lots die...)

Just a thought.

jammi567 · 02-01-2007, 06:03 PM

i probally know probally because it's been in all the news everywhere.

Master'sBaneSwiftSnowmane · 02-01-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenoli

[I'm replying to an older post here, about the significance of Godric's Hollow]

Its not just the fact that his parents lived at godirc's Hollow (and were ever so rich) that makes me firmly convinced that Harry is definitely related to Godric Gryffindor. After all, think about it. The village name, the fact that Harry pulled out the sword from the hat, and Dumbledore said 'only a true Gryffindor could have done that'. That has an ambigious meaning, after all, he could mean either Gryffindor in the sense of belonging to the house, or Gryffindor in the sense of being related.

Then there's the fact that Voldemort and Harry are bitter enemies, and Gryffindor and Slytherin, too, were enemies. (The fact that they were initially best friends is paralleled by how similar Harry and Tom Riddle are, outwardly and by circumstances). They are both the last living descendants of G and S. Those two had a conflict over the whole 'pure-blood' question, and the conflict was never resolved. Now Harry and Voldemort are fighting over the same conflict, and according to the prophecy will end the conflict, more or less. And if by any chance Voldy knew that Harry is descended from G, it explains why he went for Harry, not Neville.

I believe that Dumbldore said, "Only a true follower of Gryffindor..." So, he could have been hinting that Harry is related to Godric (which I doubt), but he was definently refering to Harry's House. If I remember the context correctly too, Harry was having problems believing that the Sorting Hat put him in the correct House. Dumbldore was mostly reassuring Harry when he said that. I'm not saying that it couldn't be true, I just don't want it to be. There is evidence here for both...especially in her interviews, but I don't think they are pointing to a relation between Harry and Godric. I

Dumbldore already explained to Harry that Voldemort went for Harry because he identified with Harry. Neither Harry nor Voldemort are pure bloods so, that's why Voldy saw Harry as more of a threat, Neville is a pure blood after all. Also, it could have been something to do with magical talent. We know his followers fought with Neville's parents, we can only assume the same for Harry's parents and so, maybe Voldemort also went for the child that came from the more magically powerful family. I'm sure Lilly and James's jobs will shed more light on that one though (and *gasp* we get to find that out in the 7th book!!!).

"Now Harry and Voldemort are fighting over the same conflict..." Are they really though? I mean sure, Voldy wants a pure blood wizarding world just like Salazar...but Harry? Yeah, he thinks what Voldy is doing is wrong, but is he fighting to defend that belief? We know he would desperatly like to avenge his parents, a lot of his earlier anger (in the first three books when Harry is still a preteen and isn't as emotionally and mentally developed as he is now) is fueled by that. He's fighting to defend himself, if he didn't fight, he would certainly die. But is he really fighting for the non-pure blooded wizarding world? He wants to protect his friends, he does not want Voldy to set up a totalitarian government in the wizarding world, and he does think that Voldy's ideas are wrong but, would he step up and fight the fight that he is now if Voldy wasn't out for his blood?

A different opinion about the book's title:http://www.hp-lexicon.org/essays/essay-grail.html This is an excellent essay, and rather interesting to read...you should definently check it out.

I feel like some of our debates have stagnated, so here's a big list for us to speculate and discuss: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#s...whatsleft/comp

Master'sBaneSwiftSnowmane · 02-01-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jammi567

i probally know probally because it's been in all the news everywhere.

Snappy much? I was not being rude, I just wanted to know where you found the information.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-15-2007, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

who identified herself as an "Inkling", although there's debate about that, killed off Lord Peter Wimsey because he'd become SO famous that she felt her more serious work (like translations of Dante) never got any attention.

I wonder if that kind of concern is in J.K. Rowling's mind...that she's "that Harry Potter woman", and she wants to be recognised for other things.

Bad look-out for Harry, if so.

Hahaha!

Of course, she always said that she was only going to write seven books. She doesn't need to kill off old Harry to be done with the series.

I was wondering if Rowling would write any other books, and how they would go over.

Lady Ravyn · 03-10-2007, 03:54 PM

i am SO psyched!!!

the library i work at is having a book 7 release party at midnight on the 21st of july when it comes out!!!

we're gonna have games and really awesome prizes (the HP video games, dvds AND books!!!) i cannot wait!!!

b.banner · 05-30-2007, 08:05 PM

i am rereading Book 6 to prepare myself for The Deathly Hallows

01-29-2007, 02:01 PM	#63
Serenoli Head of the Department for the Invention and Propagation of Sugar, Spice and Everything Nice! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ithilien Posts: 852	me, too, im afraid. Of all the titles, I am certain I like this the least. Maybe, maybe, if I read the book I'll find out the real meaning and like it, but right now, it seems much too dramatic... __________________ "I meant," said Ipslore bitterly, "what is there in this world that truly makes living worthwhile?" Death thought about it. "Cats," he said eventually. "Cats are nice." -Terry Pratchett, Sourcery Join the Harry Potter discussion, click here

02-01-2007, 11:44 AM	#65
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	Breaking news: the next book is out on the 21st July! __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

02-01-2007, 01:10 PM	#66
sisterandcousinandaunt Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,535	Dorothy L. Sayers, who identified herself as an "Inkling", although there's debate about that, killed off Lord Peter Wimsey because he'd become SO famous that she felt her more serious work (like translations of Dante) never got any attention. I wonder if that kind of concern is in J.K. Rowling's mind...that she's "that Harry Potter woman", and she wants to be recognised for other things. Bad look-out for Harry, if so.

02-01-2007, 05:42 PM	#67
Master'sBaneSwiftSnowmane Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 103	How do you know? If that's true, I'm already bouncing in my seat...it's time for Mr. Potter to stop ruling my life. (OOC: I heard Daniel Radcliff was going to attend UVA, silly rumour, I know, but still. I live quite close to UVA and I am aware of several people who have allowed this knowledge to influence there choice of colleges.) Anyways, I want the mirrors to show back up. For some reason that's the part that's bugging the snot out of me. I don't why, but if they aren't in the first few chapters, I'll probably scream. I rather like the name of this book. It's very dramatic and what else would this book be? I can't wait to find out what the "Hallows" are. You don't think it's a mistake though do you? Hallow=Hollows...Godric's Hollow...Deathly Hollows (Godric's Hollow where the final battle is fought and lots die...) Just a thought. __________________ "Not only did my encounters with voters confirm the fundamental decency of the American people, they also reminded me that at the core of the American experience are a set of ideals that continue to stir our collective conscience; a common set of values that bind us together despite our differences; a running thread of hope that makes our improbable experiment in democracy work..." Barack Obama, The Audacity of Hope

02-01-2007, 06:03 PM	#68
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	i probally know probally because it's been in all the news everywhere. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

01-28-2007, 06:53 AM	#62
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I think I'm still laughing over this title. I thought I wouldn't after some time had passed, but eh, it doesn't look like anything's changed. It's still funny.

03-10-2007, 03:54 PM	#72
Lady Ravyn Thief Queen of Entmoot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oh, I just wander around, aimlessly... Posts: 1,060	i am SO psyched!!! the library i work at is having a book 7 release party at midnight on the 21st of july when it comes out!!! we're gonna have games and really awesome prizes (the HP video games, dvds AND books!!!) i cannot wait!!! __________________ smooch Proud Member of the Evil Mooters and upstanding citizen of the Planet Bob! And all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be... My Space! Cynicism is what happens when a person opens their eyes; stops blinking in the sun, and starts wondering "why". Question everything, believe only that which you yourself deem true. Go ahead- Call me cynical.

05-30-2007, 08:05 PM	#73
b.banner Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Trying to keep a hold on my temper so I don't turn into a big green guy. Posts: 572	i am rereading Book 6 to prepare myself for The Deathly Hallows __________________ "We are going to tickle some Aes Sedai under the chin, rescue a mule, and put a snip-nosed girl on the Lion Throne. Oh, yes. That's Aviendha. Don't look at her cross-wise or she'll try to cut your throat and probably slit her own by mistake."-Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time "Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...."-Dr. Bruce Banner HULK BATMAN THE FLASH