Bilbo's relation to Gandalf

Although I have my own opinions to what the relation actually is, it has been deemed inappropriate for Entmoot. However, other people can still post their ideas here.

huh?

I will leave this thread open. Anyone who feels the need to flame dmaul, go right ahead.

I really have no idea what you could be hinting at...

I really have no idea what you could possibly be hinting at...

ditto what ideas WOULD we have anyway? *that's rhetorical*

Thanks anduin, but for once i can freely flame... i cannot choose a name "worth" enough for him.

That's just sick.

I, like Eruve, STILL do not have any idea what you could possibly be hinting at.

If anyone wants to know what he's talking about e-mail or aim me at youthat101@aol.com It's sick, don't say I didn't warn you.

Actually, I think it's safe to say, I had a pretty good idea what was meant. I made my comment sarcasticly

How about Bilbo being the vehicle by which all prophesy and hopes of elves and men would work through. Had not Bilbo taken up the challenge created by Gandalf (the party and adventure) all would have been lost. We could simply leave it at that. PC is not needed here.

Spock, I greatly prefer your idea.

I understand that this thread has caused great confusion, but why? I thought all of you read The Hobbit. Shouldn't you be experts? Since all of your simple minds are unable to interpret this relation, let the Great Jae clarify things. In the beginning, it is established that Bilbo despises the company of Gandalf. And, Gandalf is quite aware. Then, we must ask ourselves, "Why would Gandalf, such an educated creature do something so stupid?" And, the answer is very simple. We ourselves were unable to see Bilbo's image, but Gandalf was. And, the very image of Bilbo's chubby short self greatly enticed Gandalf. Every time he comes back to greet Bilbo, he comes with a greater lust than before. Each meeting is so stimulating, he can't stand being away from his greatest desire. Now, that we know what Gandalf's thinking, we must investigate Bilbo. The author vividly describes the door of Bilbo's house. He makes it seem so elaborate and decorative. If the door was so elaborate, it would be very capable of locking people out. So, why didn't Bilbo simply lock him out? It seems that Bilbo must have been doing something very special. Perhaps, even having an advenure. Although we don't know what exactly was going on, we do know that it wasn't nothing. That's what makes Bilbo's relation to Gandalf so fascinating. This topic is devoted to understanding the greatest mystery in the Lotr+Hobbit. Admin note: nothing inappropriate was edited out, dmaul just asked me to get rid of his plea to keep this post intact, which is no longer necessary since I "approved" it.

Well, since you took the time to make an intelligent post and backed it up with reasons, I'll have to treat it as valid :P Your hypothesis is certainly creative. Neither of the two had wives that we know about. However, I don't think it was Tolkien's intention to hint at a possible relationship between the two. It is an interesting interpretation, though, and I'll let other people comment on it. As per your request, I will edit out your plea that your message not be deleted and hope that my fellow admins/mods will leave his post intact.

If you read "The Quest of Erebor" in Unfinished Tales, you will see in full detail what Gandalf's motives behind the entire quest were. This tidbit goes a long way to shooting down your theory, which IMHO wasn't put down here seriously in any case. But since Ben is determined to take it seriously... Also, what good would it have done Bilbo to lock Gandalf out? G was perfectly capable of blowing B's door out the other side of the Hill, and B was well aware of this. B spends the whole first bit of the book treading carefully aroung G so as to not make G angry with him.

Hey Eruve, or should I say Homie G or Homie B. Are you too freekin lazy to write out Blilbo and Gandolf??? Anyway, I thought that the original message dmaul posted about this subject a couple months a go was a lot funnier.

Perhaps, but his latest one was more intelligent. You shouldn't be chiding Eruve on abbreviation if you can't even spell the full names correctly yourself.

LOL Perhaps if he´d have read the books he´d know that Gandalf used to sign with his initial G.

Don't say I didn't warn you.