Ok I'm working on it!

***Tessar*** · 11-08-2001, 10:35 AM

Ok, I have the Silmarillion by the throat AND IM NOT GOING TO LET GO!!!!!!!!!!

I WILL read it this time!!!! I WILL!

just wanted to let you know

Wayfarer · 11-08-2001, 02:50 PM

Go four dimensional square thingy guy!

Captain Stern · 11-08-2001, 02:55 PM

I can't understand the problem people have with The Silmarillion. The problem I had was trying to figure out what 'ere' meant

I actualy started reading The Silmarillion because I found the long descriptive writing of The Lord of the Rings heavy going.

***Tessar*** · 11-10-2001, 12:54 AM

ok I'm still going errrrrrrrrrrrr.... simi-strong!!!!!!!

I just got to the part where the (noldar wasent it?) attacked the other guys for the ships.

I think.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 11-10-2001, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tesseract12
ok I'm still going errrrrrrrrrrrr.... simi-strong!!!!!!!

I just got to the part where the (noldar wasent it?) attacked the other guys for the ships.

I think.

Yes. The Noldor attacked the Teleri for their ships. Pay attention here. For not all of he Noldor are responsible.

Ñólendil · 11-10-2001, 07:23 PM

Right. Especially not Finrod

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 11-10-2001, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Inoldonil
Right. Especially not Finrod

That's a fact, Mr. funny guy.

to you too.

Kirinki54 · 11-12-2001, 04:44 AM

So how come the Ban was not selective? Is that not unfair?The 'good' side of the Noldor had to endure enormous hardships anyway because of the 'bad' side. Just think of the Helcaraxe.
Did the Valar take that into acount?

***Tessar*** · 11-12-2001, 10:40 AM

Well look at it this way.

We all have to suffer now because of Adam and eve.

Is that not unfair?

and no I'm not trying to start a religion conversation! I don like those, I'm just trying to answer you.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 11-12-2001, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kirinki54
So how come the Ban was not selective? Is that not unfair?The 'good' side of the Noldor had to endure enormous hardships anyway because of the 'bad' side. Just think of the Helcaraxe.
Did the Valar take that into acount?

It kind of was selective. Feanor and his sons were more doomed then any other of the Noldor I think And that was the Doom of Mandos It was laid on all of the Exiles for the Kinslaying, but Feanor and company for his sworn oath. The ban actually had nothing to do with the Kinslaying did it? The ban came from the Noldor defying the Valar and leaving Valinor when they were told not to.

Kirinki54 · 11-12-2001, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
The ban came from the Noldor defying the Valar and leaving Valinor when they were told not to.

Right! I guess that´s it.

ArwenEvenstar · 11-12-2001, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
It kind of was selective. Feanor and his sons were more doomed then any other of the Noldor I think And that was the Doom of Mandos It was laid on all of the Exiles for the Kinslaying, but Feanor and company for his sworn oath. The ban actually had nothing to do with the Kinslaying did it? The ban came from the Noldor defying the Valar and leaving Valinor when they were told not to.

I can't remember did all of Feanor's sons take the oath??

Ñólendil · 11-12-2001, 06:24 PM

Finglas · 11-12-2001, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar

I can't remember did all of Feanor's sons take the oath??

yup

Finglas · 11-12-2001, 06:26 PM

dang! beat me to it

Kirinki54 · 11-13-2001, 05:41 AM

And Feanor conjured up the Mother of Oaths!!! It´s really something...

11-08-2001, 10:35 AM	#1
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Ok I'm working on it! Ok, I have the Silmarillion by the throat AND IM NOT GOING TO LET GO!!!!!!!!!! I WILL read it this time!!!! I WILL! just wanted to let you know

11-08-2001, 02:50 PM	#2
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Go four dimensional square thingy guy! __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

11-08-2001, 02:55 PM	#3
Captain Stern Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 319	RE I can't understand the problem people have with The Silmarillion. The problem I had was trying to figure out what 'ere' meant I actualy started reading The Silmarillion because I found the long descriptive writing of The Lord of the Rings heavy going.

11-10-2001, 07:23 PM	#6
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Right. Especially not Finrod __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

11-12-2001, 06:24 PM	#13
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Yep. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

11-10-2001, 12:54 AM	#4
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	ok I'm still going errrrrrrrrrrrr.... simi-strong!!!!!!! I just got to the part where the (noldar wasent it?) attacked the other guys for the ships. I think.

11-12-2001, 04:44 AM	#8
Kirinki54 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: European Union Posts: 463	So how come the Ban was not selective? Is that not unfair?The 'good' side of the Noldor had to endure enormous hardships anyway because of the 'bad' side. Just think of the Helcaraxe. Did the Valar take that into acount?

11-12-2001, 10:40 AM	#9
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Well look at it this way. We all have to suffer now because of Adam and eve. Is that not unfair? and no I'm not trying to start a religion conversation! I don like those, I'm just trying to answer you.

11-12-2001, 06:26 PM	#15
Finglas Enting Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: here, there, everywhere Posts: 88	dang! beat me to it

11-13-2001, 05:41 AM	#16
Kirinki54 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: European Union Posts: 463	And Feanor conjured up the Mother of Oaths!!! It´s really something...

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