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Old 04-10-2007, 12:32 PM   #1
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Influences on Narnia

One of the reasons I've always loved the Chronicles of Narnia is that they feel a bit like composites of the best things in literature, as if Lewis took bits he loved from other works and used them to enrich his stories. A particular example struck me when I was reading the Prose Edda for the first time (maybe you all know this, but it was new to me): after Ragnarok, when Baldr and some of the other gods return to the earth, they find the playing-pieces of the Æsir in the grass at Valhalla and talk about the past. Lewis 'borrows' this when the children in Prince Caspian find the chess pieces!

I found that exciting . As I'm reading Ivanhoe at the moment I've been thinking that the medievalism of Prince Caspian owes a lot to this kind of 19th century historical fiction about the Middle Ages - especially in the combat between Peter and Miraz. Perhaps Tennyson and the Pre-Raphaelites were influences too, as well as the almost certain influence of Malory's Morte d'Arthur? Any thoughts?

Anyway, I'd be interested to know if anyone has spotted parallels with Narnia in other books (including the Bible ) which Lewis might have read, especially from those of you more well-versed in George MacDonald or E. Nesbit than I am...

How about later works which were influenced by Narnia, too?
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:12 PM   #2
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Kinda hard to argue against how you put it Sunstar - but i'm not overly sure you actually convince with the examples given ...

'Could do better' is my assesment.

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Old 04-11-2007, 09:14 AM   #3
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Kinda hard to argue against how you put it Sunstar - but i'm not overly sure you actually convince with the examples given ...
Why not? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Consolingly disastrous, will return
While the strange starfish, hugely magnified,
Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:06 PM   #4
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Why not? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Actually, given Lewis's stature as one of the world's leading authorities on medieval literature, I doubt if he'd be drawing too much on Walter Scott.
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:19 PM   #5
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Oh, I'm sure the originals would have been his first port of call but to me, Narnian medievalism resembles the heightened, colourful Victorian recreations of medieval chivalry as much as it does Malory or other ME romances. I can't really substantiate that opinion though

In my first post, I forgot to mention one of my favourite medieval romance-type moments in Narnia - Caspian's wife, like the queen in Sir Orfeo who's stolen by the fairies, dies after she makes the mistake of sitting under a tree in the middle of the day. Always a bad idea
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As they have done for centuries, as they will
For centuries to come, when not a soul
Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks,
When England is not England, when mankind
Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea,
Consolingly disastrous, will return
While the strange starfish, hugely magnified,
Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.
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Anyway, I'd be interested to know if anyone has spotted parallels with Narnia in other books (including the Bible ) which Lewis might have read, especially from those of you more well-versed in George MacDonald or E. Nesbit than I am...
When Lewis starts The Magician's Nephew, he tells that this was something that happened while Sherlock Holmes lived in Baker Street and the Bastables children were looking for treasure in Lewisham Road.

I like how he pinpoints the time to events not from history, but from fiction
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