Problems accessing the Moot

The Gaffer · 06-20-2007, 03:20 AM

Hi

I and several other members have been unable to access Entmoot for a couple of weeks. My PC simply returns a "service unavailable" error whenever I try to connect. This only affects Entmoot; all other web sites work normally.

Oddly, it DOES work on the train (where I am now).

I know that Butterbeer and Earniel have also experienced this problem, so it's not just me.

Perhaps there is a problem with the DNS entry or something? Just thought you'd like to know why we've been so quiet.

***Earniel*** · 06-20-2007, 10:03 AM

Luckily, my problems limited themselves to a few minutes of unavailability on previous occasions in the last few weeks and one entire weekend off line, but the site behaved after that.

Curiously, the only people I know of whom are having problems so far, are Europeans. Valandil had no problem with access while I had been cut off an entire weekend. And EXK hasn't been able to get on the 'moot at all for weeks, whereas I could at the same time.

I wonder whether it's something related to Entmoot or some part of the internet system here. It's not the individual computers, I've tried on two different computers during the non-entmoot weekend and still no dice.

But it's only the Entmoot and the Tolkientrail that I couldn't reach, all the other sites work fine. It wasn't Vbulletin either, other forums worked at the time.

Now it seems I wrongfully assumed the problem had been solved when my access came back.

The Gaffer · 06-20-2007, 03:49 PM

It sounds like some sort of ISP or DNS problem. It only affects me at home/work, not on the train or (now) in a hotel.

sisterandcousinandaunt · 06-23-2007, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaffer

It sounds like some sort of ISP or DNS problem. It only affects me at home/work, not on the train or (now) in a hotel.

I've had some problems. Spotty, but there.

The Gaffer · 07-11-2007, 05:53 AM

So, do we think anyone on the site admin team could check this out? I still can't get on except when on the train.

BeardofPants · 11-06-2007, 06:16 PM

Hi,
Not able to access the 'moot from my home comp (currently at work). Same problem as Gaffer.

I wonder if it's to do with my ISP? (woosh.co.nz)

***Earniel*** · 11-07-2007, 05:35 AM

Ah, that's a new one. I didn't know you were a closet European, BoP!

BeardofPants · 11-07-2007, 04:32 PM

Apparently. Do you know if the others problem resolved itself or just 'went away'? I wonder if it has to do with where ben is hosting entmoot? Maybe some ISPs are getting mass-banned cos of spamming? In any case can you let me know if you hear anything from anyone?

***Earniel*** · 11-07-2007, 07:05 PM

I've been checking people's IP and ISP against ones from banned spammers. It's been taking me a while. No matches so far. It wouldn't explain why some people can get on and off at intervals either.

We've done some mass-clearing and banning of spammers at the end of last year, but since the access-problems have only started May to June, these two things don't seem connected. No software-updates on the forum since that I'm aware of that could cause problems.

As soon as I know anything more, I'll make sure the people with access problems get told it too.

strider8 · 11-09-2007, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaffer

I and several other members have been unable to access Entmoot for a couple of weeks. My PC simply returns a "service unavailable" error whenever I try to connect. This only affects Entmoot; all other web sites work normally.

I've had the very same problem

Grey_Wolf · 11-10-2007, 03:39 AM

Now this one as well...

http://europeforum.12.forumer.com/index.php

I found this site after a while and it was nice one - I was really happy that I had both the Moot and EF - but from yesterday its inaccessible too for some reason.

But Now im back - but its going awfully slow. God! I was having MAJOR withdrawal symptoms.

Butterbeer · 11-10-2007, 08:50 PM

Wotcha Doc!

heh, how's things?

Been a fair ol' while

what you up to?

Hope things are good with you?

Best, BB

BeardofPants · 11-13-2007, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider8

I've had the very same problem

And it resolved itself?

strider8 · 11-14-2007, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardofPants

And it resolved itself?

At different times of the day it works, in the morning it takes like five tries for it to come on (and even after that it doesn't always come on).

Yet strangely from four O'clock onwards it is fine.

**Mari** · 11-23-2007, 08:05 PM

I've had the message "website unavailable" yesterday and this entire evening...
I was shocked.

Nerdanel · 11-24-2007, 10:01 AM

I've also had the occasional 'website unavailable' message, more frequently than usually. A few hours ago I still had this, but now it's all working fine again.

***Earniel*** · 11-24-2007, 10:11 AM

The website seemed to have been online for a while, for everyone this time, by the looks of it.

The last sane person · 11-24-2007, 11:36 AM

Same here, I only just got onto the moot a few hours ago. The message seems to be occuring more frequently for me though. Perhaps the same thing keeping the European mooters (some of them) out? It looks like it migrated a bit further east now, if so.

BeardofPants · 11-25-2007, 05:13 PM

Does anyone know who is hosting entmoot? That could be the problem source - seems like too many 'regulars' are being affected by this.

Still no access, FTR.

***HOBBIT*** · 11-25-2007, 07:55 PM

I believe that entmoot, and tolkientrail are hosted by F5 Hosting. At least they used to be. Probably still are.

I mentioned this problem to ben, let's see if anything gets done. :P

06-20-2007, 03:20 AM	#1
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Problems accessing the Moot Hi I and several other members have been unable to access Entmoot for a couple of weeks. My PC simply returns a "service unavailable" error whenever I try to connect. This only affects Entmoot; all other web sites work normally. Oddly, it DOES work on the train (where I am now). I know that Butterbeer and Earniel have also experienced this problem, so it's not just me. Perhaps there is a problem with the DNS entry or something? Just thought you'd like to know why we've been so quiet.

06-20-2007, 10:03 AM	#2
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Luckily, my problems limited themselves to a few minutes of unavailability on previous occasions in the last few weeks and one entire weekend off line, but the site behaved after that. Curiously, the only people I know of whom are having problems so far, are Europeans. Valandil had no problem with access while I had been cut off an entire weekend. And EXK hasn't been able to get on the 'moot at all for weeks, whereas I could at the same time. I wonder whether it's something related to Entmoot or some part of the internet system here. It's not the individual computers, I've tried on two different computers during the non-entmoot weekend and still no dice. But it's only the Entmoot and the Tolkientrail that I couldn't reach, all the other sites work fine. It wasn't Vbulletin either, other forums worked at the time. Now it seems I wrongfully assumed the problem had been solved when my access came back. __________________ We are not things.

11-06-2007, 06:16 PM	#6
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Hi, Not able to access the 'moot from my home comp (currently at work). Same problem as Gaffer. I wonder if it's to do with my ISP? (woosh.co.nz) __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

11-07-2007, 05:35 AM	#7
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Ah, that's a new one. I didn't know you were a closet European, BoP! __________________ We are not things.

11-07-2007, 04:32 PM	#8
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Apparently. Do you know if the others problem resolved itself or just 'went away'? I wonder if it has to do with where ben is hosting entmoot? Maybe some ISPs are getting mass-banned cos of spamming? In any case can you let me know if you hear anything from anyone? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

06-20-2007, 03:49 PM	#3
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	It sounds like some sort of ISP or DNS problem. It only affects me at home/work, not on the train or (now) in a hotel.

07-11-2007, 05:53 AM	#5
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	So, do we think anyone on the site admin team could check this out? I still can't get on except when on the train.

11-07-2007, 07:05 PM	#9
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	I've been checking people's IP and ISP against ones from banned spammers. It's been taking me a while. No matches so far. It wouldn't explain why some people can get on and off at intervals either. We've done some mass-clearing and banning of spammers at the end of last year, but since the access-problems have only started May to June, these two things don't seem connected. No software-updates on the forum since that I'm aware of that could cause problems. As soon as I know anything more, I'll make sure the people with access problems get told it too. __________________ We are not things.

11-10-2007, 03:39 AM	#11
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	Now this one as well... http://europeforum.12.forumer.com/index.php I found this site after a while and it was nice one - I was really happy that I had both the Moot and EF - but from yesterday its inaccessible too for some reason. But Now im back - but its going awfully slow. God! I was having MAJOR withdrawal symptoms. Last edited by Grey_Wolf : 11-10-2007 at 04:52 AM.

11-10-2007, 08:50 PM	#12
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	Wotcha Doc! heh, how's things? Been a fair ol' while what you up to? Hope things are good with you? Best, BB

11-23-2007, 08:05 PM	#15
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	I've had the message "website unavailable" yesterday and this entire evening... I was shocked. __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

11-24-2007, 10:01 AM	#16
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	I've also had the occasional 'website unavailable' message, more frequently than usually. A few hours ago I still had this, but now it's all working fine again. __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

11-24-2007, 10:11 AM	#17
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	The website seemed to have been online for a while, for everyone this time, by the looks of it. __________________ We are not things.

11-24-2007, 11:36 AM	#18
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Same here, I only just got onto the moot a few hours ago. The message seems to be occuring more frequently for me though. Perhaps the same thing keeping the European mooters (some of them) out? It looks like it migrated a bit further east now, if so. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

11-25-2007, 05:13 PM	#19
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Does anyone know who is hosting entmoot? That could be the problem source - seems like too many 'regulars' are being affected by this. Still no access, FTR. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

11-25-2007, 07:55 PM	#20
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	I believe that entmoot, and tolkientrail are hosted by F5 Hosting. At least they used to be. Probably still are. I mentioned this problem to ben, let's see if anything gets done. :P __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

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