C.S. Lewis' "Space Trilogy". - Page 2

Laredith · 06-11-2002, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Lost in Coruscant
Oh for cryin' out loud...

The Space trilogy is an adult fantasy series, yes, children can read them but it's difficult!

If you don't like the 'religion' references, don't read it. Most Christians decide that God gave them a gift and they use it for His glory, not their own.

Heh-heh...no, I wouldn't give it to a child. Remember the part with Ransom and...oh, darn it, I forgot his name. You know, the hross. How they are talking about mating...uh-huh, right. Somehow, I don't believe seven year olds are mature enough to read that (btw, amen about the last comment. I myself am a Christian fiction author).

webwizard333 · 07-15-2002, 11:21 AM

I just finished Out of the Silent Planet and thought it was brilliant. Christian beliefs and theology aside, I thought his descriptions of the various alien cultures to be engrossing and their physical aspects as well, all were very detailed. Interesting ideas too, that our planet is a prison for the Bent One. I look forward to reading the next two in the trilogy.

sun-star · 07-17-2002, 01:59 PM

It's a while since I read it, but I liked Out of the Silent Planet, though I can't say I understand all of it. I can't find Perelandra anywhere to read that, and That Hideous Strength was just... weird. It frightened me, too (I'm easily scared).

cee2lee2 · 07-22-2002, 07:07 PM

Sunstar, that's why I had to stay up all night to finish it. It was scary and I just couldn't stop in the middle. I'm easily scared too.

Had to know how it ended.

Entlover · 07-22-2002, 10:55 PM

It is scary -- I'll never forget that police woman.

Has anybody read Lewis' "Til We Have Faces"?

I can't agree that his fiction is darker than Tolkien's. They are both pessimists in the short run and optimists in the long run. But the Silmarillion's a lot darker than anything Lewis wrote. All of Lewis' stories end happily.

webwizard333 · 07-23-2002, 02:17 PM

I recently read Perelandra and greatly enjoyed it as well. I especially liked his creation of the floating islands, it's one of the more original concepts I've read lately. The ending monlogoue with the Eldil and the King and Queen was a great read. I look forward to the third book but it seems like a lot of people find this one to be frightening.

Entlover · 07-24-2002, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by webwizard333
I I look forward to the third book but it seems like a lot of people find this one to be frightening.

It isn't really frightening, although it's definitely not for children. (There's a fair amount of stuff like brainwashing, sex (i.e. elephants mating, as I recall), murder, dismembered body parts, etc) One of the characters is a disembodied head with his brains bubbling out.
It's definitely memorable. But it was slightly disappointing in that it's got too many different elements in it: space travel, the supernatural(devil worship, angels), medieval wizardry (Merlin in the twentieth century) and arthurian legends, a police state, university life, and possibly others I can't recall. It might have been better if he'd concentrated on fewer subjects.
But it's worth reading.

webwizard333 · 07-29-2002, 09:30 PM

Well, I finished it today after much putting off (I was annoyed with the lack of Dr. Ransom in the beginning), but I'm glad I read it. I agree with it being disturbing, though I found Frost to be far scarier than the police-woman Hardcastle. I do like much of his allegorical meaning in their about duty and the need and joy of obedience; but not nessecarily the equality part. Though it lacked any more travel between the planets I thought it was a fitting conclusion to the trilogy.

Carafin · 10-26-2002, 07:06 PM

I just finished thet Hideous Strength a few days ago and it really got me thinking about all the unique symbols he used (Hardcastle scared me too, but so did Frost and Feverstone and Wither and...)and the whole idea of Logres and England got me into Camelot can anyone suggest some good books on Camelot?
thanx

Lief Erikson · 10-28-2002, 11:43 AM

The Merlin series by Mary Stewart is excellent. It takes place from the perspective of Merlin, but it spans the Arthurian legend as well. I loved it, so I strongly recommend it.

I've read the space trilogy, and I think I have a few problems with C.S. Lewis writing style. It's simply not for me. But I did like the series pretty well, Perelandra especially.

Telperion · 11-01-2002, 03:45 PM

I've only read "out of the silent plante" but i found it pretty wierd. i don't think i'll finish the series.

b.banner · 03-28-2006, 03:22 PM

i just finished the first one yesterday really good book

littleadanel · 04-12-2006, 03:34 PM

I've only read Out of the Silent Planet. I actually bought it for a really low price, when the library was selling out old books, and Lewis' name caught my eye. I enjoyed it very much. I wish I could have the other two to read...

Entlover · 04-25-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by littleadanel

I've only read Out of the Silent Planet. I wish I could have the other two to read...

You should be able to get them at your library. They're all over the place; used bookstores have them too. Should not be missed, they are classics.

littleadanel · 04-25-2006, 03:47 PM

I know you couldn't have seen it because I took it out of my profile a while ago... so psst, now I tell... I'm Hungarian.

I looked it up, and it seems I have a slight chance of finding Perelandra in used bookstores, because it was published in '95. It seems the third part hasn't been translated. And I have an even slighter chance of finding any of them in original English... But I'll keep looking.

ecthelion · 06-25-2006, 09:17 AM

Is anyone here interested in the cosmic trilogy? Though less famous than narnia, it is in my opinion a better work. Maybe someone knows about another discussion forum about it?

inked · 06-26-2006, 12:27 PM

see: http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=1583

ecthelion · 06-27-2006, 09:38 AM

Thank you, it seems I never saw that I am only looking on the last month threads...
And more to the point, the whole thread is about if its worth reading. I know it is!
I would wish to discuss some of the ideas, and compare it to tolkien. not in the details of the mythology, but in the larger aspects.

Butterbeer · 06-27-2006, 04:58 PM

then your wish is granted ...

here you go ...start it off to your heart's desire Ecthelion!

best, BB

ecthelion · 06-30-2006, 01:43 PM

Why did the Oyearsu (of perelandra or Malachandra) not stop Weston's ship before it reached Venus-perelandra, as the Oyarsa of Mars-Malachandra promised Ransom to do?
That was a humble start to get the discussion going

07-15-2002, 11:21 AM	#22
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	I just finished Out of the Silent Planet and thought it was brilliant. Christian beliefs and theology aside, I thought his descriptions of the various alien cultures to be engrossing and their physical aspects as well, all were very detailed. Interesting ideas too, that our planet is a prison for the Bent One. I look forward to reading the next two in the trilogy. __________________ Boo!

07-17-2002, 01:59 PM	#23
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	It's a while since I read it, but I liked Out of the Silent Planet, though I can't say I understand all of it. I can't find Perelandra anywhere to read that, and That Hideous Strength was just... weird. It frightened me, too (I'm easily scared). __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool. Last edited by sun-star : 07-18-2002 at 05:06 AM.

07-23-2002, 02:17 PM	#26
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	I recently read Perelandra and greatly enjoyed it as well. I especially liked his creation of the floating islands, it's one of the more original concepts I've read lately. The ending monlogoue with the Eldil and the King and Queen was a great read. I look forward to the third book but it seems like a lot of people find this one to be frightening. __________________ Boo!

07-29-2002, 09:30 PM	#28
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	Well, I finished it today after much putting off (I was annoyed with the lack of Dr. Ransom in the beginning), but I'm glad I read it. I agree with it being disturbing, though I found Frost to be far scarier than the police-woman Hardcastle. I do like much of his allegorical meaning in their about duty and the need and joy of obedience; but not nessecarily the equality part. Though it lacked any more travel between the planets I thought it was a fitting conclusion to the trilogy. __________________ Boo!

10-26-2002, 07:06 PM	#29
Carafin Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: The warm (or West) coast of Canada Posts: 150	I just finished thet Hideous Strength a few days ago and it really got me thinking about all the unique symbols he used (Hardcastle scared me too, but so did Frost and Feverstone and Wither and...)and the whole idea of Logres and England got me into Camelot can anyone suggest some good books on Camelot? thanx __________________ Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo; a star shines on the hour of our meeting, - LotR (FotR) four be the things I'd be better off without, love, curiousity, freckles, and doubt Queen Guinevere? ... Though all to ruin fell the world, And were dissolved and backward hurled, Unmade into the old abyss, Yet were its making good for this, The dusk, the dawn, the earth, the sea, That Luthien for a time shoud be ~ ~Beren: The Song of Parting

07-22-2002, 07:07 PM	#24
cee2lee2 Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 2nd star to the left..... Posts: 566	Sunstar, that's why I had to stay up all night to finish it. It was scary and I just couldn't stop in the middle. I'm easily scared too. Had to know how it ended.

07-22-2002, 10:55 PM	#25
Entlover Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 463	It is scary -- I'll never forget that police woman. Has anybody read Lewis' "Til We Have Faces"? I can't agree that his fiction is darker than Tolkien's. They are both pessimists in the short run and optimists in the long run. But the Silmarillion's a lot darker than anything Lewis wrote. All of Lewis' stories end happily.

10-28-2002, 11:43 AM	#30
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	The Merlin series by Mary Stewart is excellent. It takes place from the perspective of Merlin, but it spans the Arthurian legend as well. I loved it, so I strongly recommend it. I've read the space trilogy, and I think I have a few problems with C.S. Lewis writing style. It's simply not for me. But I did like the series pretty well, Perelandra especially.

11-01-2002, 03:45 PM	#31
Telperion Enting Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 78	I've only read "out of the silent plante" but i found it pretty wierd. i don't think i'll finish the series. __________________ Wherever you go, there you are. Aim for the stars, if you miss, you'll at least land on the moon! He who is made of air should not accuse the wind. My mind wanders. "Not all those who wander are lost." Therefore, my mind is not lost. Now, my question to those of you who doubt my sanity is this: How can someone who has not lost their mind be insane?

03-28-2006, 03:22 PM	#32
b.banner Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Trying to keep a hold on my temper so I don't turn into a big green guy. Posts: 572	i just finished the first one yesterday really good book __________________ "We are going to tickle some Aes Sedai under the chin, rescue a mule, and put a snip-nosed girl on the Lion Throne. Oh, yes. That's Aviendha. Don't look at her cross-wise or she'll try to cut your throat and probably slit her own by mistake."-Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time "Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...."-Dr. Bruce Banner HULK BATMAN THE FLASH

04-12-2006, 03:34 PM	#33
littleadanel of the House of Bëor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eastwards. Posts: 979	I've only read Out of the Silent Planet. I actually bought it for a really low price, when the library was selling out old books, and Lewis' name caught my eye. I enjoyed it very much. I wish I could have the other two to read... __________________ I'm good in bed - I can sleep for days

04-25-2006, 03:47 PM	#35
littleadanel of the House of Bëor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eastwards. Posts: 979	I know you couldn't have seen it because I took it out of my profile a while ago... so psst, now I tell... I'm Hungarian. I looked it up, and it seems I have a slight chance of finding Perelandra in used bookstores, because it was published in '95. It seems the third part hasn't been translated. And I have an even slighter chance of finding any of them in original English... But I'll keep looking. __________________ I'm good in bed - I can sleep for days

06-25-2006, 09:17 AM	#36
ecthelion Enting Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gondolin. in travian.it server5 Posts: 91	The cosmic trilogy Is anyone here interested in the cosmic trilogy? Though less famous than narnia, it is in my opinion a better work. Maybe someone knows about another discussion forum about it? __________________ The green earth, say you? That is a mighty matter of legend, though you tread it under the light of day! What does "LOL" mean?

06-26-2006, 12:27 PM	#37
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	see: http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=1583 __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

06-27-2006, 09:38 AM	#38
ecthelion Enting Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gondolin. in travian.it server5 Posts: 91	Thank you, it seems I never saw that I am only looking on the last month threads... And more to the point, the whole thread is about if its worth reading. I know it is! I would wish to discuss some of the ideas, and compare it to tolkien. not in the details of the mythology, but in the larger aspects. __________________ The green earth, say you? That is a mighty matter of legend, though you tread it under the light of day! What does "LOL" mean?

06-27-2006, 04:58 PM	#39
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	then your wish is granted ... here you go ...start it off to your heart's desire Ecthelion! best, BB

06-30-2006, 01:43 PM	#40
ecthelion Enting Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gondolin. in travian.it server5 Posts: 91	Why did the Oyearsu (of perelandra or Malachandra) not stop Weston's ship before it reached Venus-perelandra, as the Oyarsa of Mars-Malachandra promised Ransom to do? That was a humble start to get the discussion going __________________ The green earth, say you? That is a mighty matter of legend, though you tread it under the light of day! What does "LOL" mean? Last edited by ecthelion : 07-02-2006 at 03:46 AM.

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