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Old 11-22-2004, 12:04 AM   #1
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Character Study: Beorn

What was Beorn. how come he is the only one. Where did he come from. Why did you like him. Why didnt you like him. What was his importance in the book. This is a character study. Write anything... about Beorn
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Old 11-22-2004, 04:54 AM   #2
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Actually doesn't it say in the appendicies or somewhere that Beorn had descendants? Therefore there must have been at least a few other Beornings.

I think Beorn really outlines what magic is like in Middle-earth. Aside from Gandalf occasionally lighting something on fire, magic is subtle and only to be used as a last resort, just like Beorn. He only joined the Battle of Five Armies when the dwarves, elves and men really desperately needed help.

He's a good person, but good and evil in Middle-earth isn't all black and white. Beorn is dangerous to friend and foe alike, but as the company found, he makes a great ally.
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Old 11-26-2004, 07:29 PM   #3
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ya i always wondered about Beorn. His descendants, the Beornings can't turn into bears, but they still don't like dwarves!
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Old 12-01-2004, 05:11 PM   #4
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Beorn is quite a character. He doesn't immediatly come off as likeable, in fact from the way Gandalf carefully handled him I always got the impression that he was a man to be scared of if you met him on the wrong day.

But his home with the horses and dogs and the way he is protective over the horses that he lends to Bilbo's company give him an unexpected milder side. When you think about it, not a two dimensional character that one would expect in a children's story.

Manveru, please refresh my memory, where does it say that his decendants/family can't change into bears? I always had the idea they did.
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I really liked the way Gandalf knew how to handle Beorn, and the way Beorn found Gandalf's scheme so humorous. I mean, it was so misleading, and took advantage of him, but he really didn't seem to mind so much. And the food at his house always sounded so good. What I wouldn't give to live in Middle Earth just for the food!! (that's really shallow of me ) Also, the music the dwarves played in his hall always sounded so wonderful and mystical in my imagination.
I don't remember the part about Beorn having descendants, but this is another reason why I should reread the Hobbit. I wonder why they couldn't turn into bears...hmmm.
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Old 01-08-2005, 06:51 AM   #6
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Beorn

I think Beorn is a fasinatng character and he reminds me of Bombadill a bit. I was just wondering if anyone knew any of his history or if he is featured in any other stories?
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Old 01-08-2005, 06:57 AM   #7
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From the way Gandalf talked about and handled Beorn I think he should be a man to be wary of, but why does he only get angry when men, elves, goblins etc are around and not animals that might tresspass on his land, is Beorn really abear that can transform into a man? or is he a man that canj turn into a bear like Gandalf implies?
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I've never compared Beorn and Bombadil, but that's interesting. Contribute to the already existing thread here.
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Old 01-19-2005, 04:22 PM   #9
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maybe Beorn is an Istari, after all, there were a lot of them, if indeed Gandalf did fear Beorn, then I would pace him as higher ranking, or at least more powerful, but then he would be a head of the order.. I'm confusing myself
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:25 PM   #10
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I don't think so. Oh, do you mean Istari or Maiar?

I haven't heard that Beorn's decendents couldn't transform either. I like what Nurvingiel said about the magic. It's so true. Oh yes, at first I didn't like Beorn, actually up untill Gandalf said he was following them. Then I decided he is cool. After the Battle of the Five Armies, I really liked him He is even made more special by the fact that we know so little about him.
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Old 01-23-2005, 09:25 PM   #11
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the word 'beorn' in anglo-saxon means 'warrior'
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I don't think so. Oh, do you mean Istari or Maiar?
Well the Istari were usually Maiar

And the warrior bit is interesting, where did you dig that up?
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Beorn was my favorite character. When I started reading about the Battle of Five Armies I was just waiting for him, and then he showed up so powerful! I was cheering.

When he was keeping an eye on his horses I sensed more of a mistrust of Gandalf and the dwarves than of loving concern for his animals. He gave them strict instructions what to do with the horses, and he stalked them rather threateningly in bear form, even if he didn't mean to be noticed. This after their awkward meeting (from which, in the book, I couldn't draw any clear conclusions of his character) was enough for me to think he was quite a scoundrel, but then he showed up at the Battle of Five Armies and split some heads for their cause! Yes!

In this respect I think he's a very "Han Solo" type of guy.
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In this respect I think he's a very "Han Solo" type of guy.
Totally! Only Han Solo is even better, he rules.
The warrior thing is very cool, thanx for that Manveru.
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Old 02-03-2005, 03:43 PM   #15
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Beorn was (supposedly) a man. [Tolkien makes it clear in his letters that Beorn's lifespan was no greater than that of an ordinary Man. It's very unlikely, then, that he survived much beyond III 3000. (see The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien No 144, dated 1954).]

It also states he was a magician! Shapechanger is probably closer to the truth. [In the same letter referred to in Note 1, Tolkien explains that despite his remarkable abilities, Beorn definitely belonged to the race of Men: 'Though a skin-changer and no doubt a bit of a magician, Beorn was a Man'.]

He did have descendents... and also, he had relatives. Remember, he and his kin were driven out of the mountains by the goblins...

I think this is just one of those things that never gets elaborated on, like the giants in the mountains. And really, I'm sort of glad that not everything is explained in the appendix.

Also Beorn's name means warrior, but even earlier it meant bear. (bee wolf). For transition from bear to warrior you probably needn't look any farther than the berserker, the bear shirt, one who wears the bear shirt, and takes the form of the bear when enraged...
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Old 02-04-2005, 05:12 PM   #16
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I think Beorn is a fasinatng character and he reminds me of Bombadill a bit. I was just wondering if anyone knew any of his history or if he is featured in any other stories?
That's what I thought when I read the chapter last night. [BTW I tried to follow Nurvingiel's link but it brought me back here].

They are both like "earth spirits". Bombadil talks with trees, Beorn with animals. They are both masters of their own small realms. I think they even served the same meal- clotted cream and honey (no low carb diet there).

Where they differ is that I definitely got the impression that Beorn is prone to violence, whereas Bombadil deals with issues in a much different fashion. Beorn is a man with magical powers-- Bombadil is immortal.
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Well the Istari were usually Maiar

And the warrior bit is interesting, where did you dig that up?
mm, maiar is a bit more general though, istar refers to the (5? possibly some other lesser ones) wizards
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