Reasons to like Smaug... - Page 3

ItalianLegolas · 01-06-2005, 09:46 PM

how could you possibly like smaug? i mean, hes an evil dragon, not a nice dragon like the ones in all those other fanatasy books

Embladyne · 01-22-2005, 07:56 PM

It is precisely because he is evil, and has such an interesting personality to boot that I like the characterization of Smaug. I was not sad to read of his death, but I really enjoyed the way he acted in life. I'm alway disappointed when dragons are made into good, and "helpful" creatures. I like them bad and dangerous.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-22-2005, 07:59 PM

its not the evil evil of Sauron or Morgoth,
Smaug has a sort of fun evil,
if you know what i mean!

Embladyne · 01-22-2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

its not the evil evil of Sauron or Morgoth,
Smaug has a sort of fun evil,
if you know what i mean!

precisely

inked · 01-22-2005, 09:33 PM

A warm, toasty sort of fun-guy. Likes riddles. What could go wrong?

Jon S. · 01-22-2005, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valandil

Do other tales treat dragons in similar ways? Older stories anyhow... I imagine many writers after Tolkien may have borrowed from his treatment.

There's a newer fantasy series that does, the Magic Kingdom of Landover Series by Terry Brooks. The dragon's name is Strabo. He's a character, all right!

P.S. Obviously, Brooks - who is no Tolkien - has borrowed from Tolkien in many ways. Brooks' writing, however, has improved consistently over time and there's something to said for that.

ItalianLegolas · 01-23-2005, 01:43 PM

evil is better then nice dragons, nice dragons are fake dragons

Pytt · 01-23-2005, 02:03 PM

I belive there are good dragons who is cool too. I don't have an example, but I will not say a dragon has to be bad to be cool.

But hey. Anyway, eagles beats those poor oh-look-I-can-blow-flames up where the sun seldom shine. Long live the Eagles!

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-23-2005, 02:05 PM

in Patricia C Wrede's books, the dragons are good (or at least not evil

), and they are still cool

ItalianLegolas · 01-23-2005, 02:13 PM

which books would those be? and i meant good like in the the new Cornelia Funke book, Dragonrider i think it is.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 01-23-2005, 02:16 PM

the enchanted forest chronicles

01-06-2005, 09:46 PM	#41
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	how could you possibly like smaug? i mean, hes an evil dragon, not a nice dragon like the ones in all those other fanatasy books __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-22-2005, 07:56 PM	#42
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	It is precisely because he is evil, and has such an interesting personality to boot that I like the characterization of Smaug. I was not sad to read of his death, but I really enjoyed the way he acted in life. I'm alway disappointed when dragons are made into good, and "helpful" creatures. I like them bad and dangerous. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

01-22-2005, 09:33 PM	#45
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	A warm, toasty sort of fun-guy. Likes riddles. What could go wrong? __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

01-23-2005, 01:43 PM	#47
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	evil is better then nice dragons, nice dragons are fake dragons __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-23-2005, 02:03 PM	#48
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	I belive there are good dragons who is cool too. I don't have an example, but I will not say a dragon has to be bad to be cool. But hey. Anyway, eagles beats those poor oh-look-I-can-blow-flames up where the sun seldom shine. Long live the Eagles! __________________ Don't Panic!

01-22-2005, 07:59 PM	#43
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	its not the evil evil of Sauron or Morgoth, Smaug has a sort of fun evil, if you know what i mean!

01-23-2005, 02:05 PM	#49
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	in Patricia C Wrede's books, the dragons are good (or at least not evil ), and they are still cool

01-23-2005, 02:13 PM	#50
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	which books would those be? and i meant good like in the the new Cornelia Funke book, Dragonrider i think it is. __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-23-2005, 02:16 PM	#51
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	the enchanted forest chronicles

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