What LOtR characters you find irritating?

CrazySquirrel · 06-25-2005, 03:02 PM

Are there any characters in LOTR books (not movies) that you just can't stand? That you find irritating?

(I mean not guys like Sauron, but "good" characters that you are supposed to like.)

My first choice is Arwen. I hate her, I hate her ... period

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Then there is this Glorfindel. Why is he in ME at all, while he should be in Mandos? What good has he ever done in the 3 Age? Why hasn't he taken dying Frodo to rivendell on his horse ahead of the others? Why didn't he come with the Fellowship, at least to Gondor?

Then I think some characters are boring. All the Ents and the Entwives. And also, sorry

Legolas. They could have left him at home all right.

tolkienfan · 06-25-2005, 03:52 PM

I think Boromir is kind of irritating. He just doesn't get it!

mithrand1r · 06-25-2005, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazySquirrel

Then there is this Glorfindel. Why is he in ME at all, while he should be in Mandos? What good has he ever done in the 3 Age? Why hasn't he taken dying Frodo to rivendell on his horse ahead of the others? Why didn't he come with the Fellowship, at least to Gondor?

IIRC, Glorfindel was not chosen to be part of the Fellowship since he (as other First born elves) would be easily spotted by Sauron and his agents due to the essense of his nature. I think it is mentioned somewhere in the Council of Elrond.

Glorfindel also helped to keep the black riders from escaping the river.

Glorfindel is one of many characters in LOTR that are brought in briefly and then fade from the readers sight. I think this helps to give LOTR a richness in texture that is not present in other stories.

It may have been an oversight on JRRT for using a character that should have been at Mandos. (of course for those that have not read the SIL, then there is no problem.

I am not sure if there are any characters that annoyed me.

I think I was disappointed in Denethor's actions primarily since it hindered those who were battling against Sauron.

At times I found Gildor (sp?) to be annoying since he and the other elves would not tell Fordo and company much about the black riders, besides run away.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 06-26-2005, 08:42 AM

We don't actually know if it is the same Glorfindel that killed a Balrog in Gondolin.

Gordis · 06-26-2005, 04:09 PM

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At times I found Gildor (sp?) to be annoying since he and the other elves would not tell Fordo and company much about the black riders, besides run away.

I agree. Gildor is disgusting, IMHO. He could have led them to Rivendell, at least to Buckland.
And as for irritating characters - it is Galadriel for me.

TD, Glorfindel of Gondolin is the same as the one in LOTR. That was Tolkien's final decision, as far as I know. And I agree with CS, why bother to return to ME if you sit in Rivendell doing nothing? Well, he led the Elves in the Battle of Fornost, but that is all it seems.

Lotesse · 06-27-2005, 01:24 AM

It's Frodo who has always irritated me most - maybe because he's way too pacifist for my taste, I don't know. I love Sam, et al, but for some weird reason Frodo gets under my skin...

tolkienfan · 06-27-2005, 05:12 PM

He is a little gloomy.

Forkbeard · 06-28-2005, 01:42 PM

there are some?

Legolas. He does little except not sleep, skim over snow etc....a lightweight.

Frodo gets on my nerves at times, but then he's bearing the Ring into Mordor, he's a right to get a little whiny at times.

CrazySquirrel · 06-30-2005, 02:29 PM

Funny, I wasn't irritated by Leggy or frodo or sam when I read the book before I saw the movie. But after the movie... I just can't stand them anymore.

Lotesse · 07-07-2005, 04:12 PM

And Arwen Evenstar's a bit annoying; what's her problem? She made a nice banner for her man, how sweet - but she couldn't be bothered to deliver it herself?! What a p---y.

rohirrim TR · 08-07-2005, 12:44 AM

tom bombadillo is the most annoying dude in the books I don't know why tolkien even bothered with him

Lotesse · 08-07-2005, 12:50 AM

How funny! Bombadillo irritates you? I guess he IS a little much, sort of willy-wonkaish, or like a Robin Williams-on-acid kind of guy! He didn't bug me, though, but thinking about this subject again I'm reminded that Galadriel kinda freaks me out.

rohirrim TR · 08-07-2005, 01:23 AM

must be a personality thing but i never minded galadriel because she is central to the plot and has a role through the whole from the silmarillion until the appendices whereas bombadil shows up in 2 chapters and never shows up or participates again

Lotesse · 08-07-2005, 01:27 AM

Well, you've got a point, rohirrim TR...

AndÃºril · 08-07-2005, 03:34 AM

Treebeard.

Lotesse · 08-07-2005, 03:43 AM

Treebeard irritates you? I guess he can seem a bit lugubrious and plodding... but I like him.

rohirrim TR · 08-07-2005, 05:10 PM

i can see that treebeard can be hard to read but he is essential to the plot because without the ents and treebeard helms deep would have been different and saruman would still be a threat to gondor either keeping aid away from minas tirith or putting gondor in a crossfire so treebeard to me makes sense and is kind of funny

***RÃan*** · 08-08-2005, 01:05 AM

Tom irritates me sometimes, too. I'm surprised Goldberry doesn't just haul back and smack him sometimes!

rohirrim TR · 08-08-2005, 10:10 PM

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Tom irritates me sometimes, too. I'm surprised Goldberry doesn't just haul back and smack him sometimes!

now that would be funny

me9996 · 08-08-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotesse

And Arwen Evenstar's a bit annoying; what's her problem? She made a nice banner for her man, how sweet - but she couldn't be bothered to deliver it herself?!

How was she supost to get there?

06-25-2005, 03:02 PM	#1
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	What LOtR characters you find irritating? Are there any characters in LOTR books (not movies) that you just can't stand? That you find irritating? (I mean not guys like Sauron, but "good" characters that you are supposed to like.) My first choice is Arwen. I hate her, I hate her ... period . Then there is this Glorfindel. Why is he in ME at all, while he should be in Mandos? What good has he ever done in the 3 Age? Why hasn't he taken dying Frodo to rivendell on his horse ahead of the others? Why didn't he come with the Fellowship, at least to Gondor? Then I think some characters are boring. All the Ents and the Entwives. And also, sorry Legolas. They could have left him at home all right.

06-25-2005, 03:52 PM	#2
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	I think Boromir is kind of irritating. He just doesn't get it! __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

06-26-2005, 08:42 AM	#4
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	We don't actually know if it is the same Glorfindel that killed a Balrog in Gondolin. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

06-27-2005, 01:24 AM	#6
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	It's Frodo who has always irritated me most - maybe because he's way too pacifist for my taste, I don't know. I love Sam, et al, but for some weird reason Frodo gets under my skin... __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

06-27-2005, 05:12 PM	#7
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	He is a little gloomy. __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

06-28-2005, 01:42 PM	#8
Forkbeard Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 369	irritating characters there are some? Legolas. He does little except not sleep, skim over snow etc....a lightweight. Frodo gets on my nerves at times, but then he's bearing the Ring into Mordor, he's a right to get a little whiny at times.

06-30-2005, 02:29 PM	#9
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	Funny, I wasn't irritated by Leggy or frodo or sam when I read the book before I saw the movie. But after the movie... I just can't stand them anymore.

07-07-2005, 04:12 PM	#10
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	And Arwen Evenstar's a bit annoying; what's her problem? She made a nice banner for her man, how sweet - but she couldn't be bothered to deliver it herself?! What a p---y. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

08-07-2005, 12:50 AM	#12
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	How funny! Bombadillo irritates you? I guess he IS a little much, sort of willy-wonkaish, or like a Robin Williams-on-acid kind of guy! He didn't bug me, though, but thinking about this subject again I'm reminded that Galadriel kinda freaks me out. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

08-07-2005, 01:27 AM	#14
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Well, you've got a point, rohirrim TR... __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Lotesse : 08-07-2005 at 01:28 AM.

08-07-2005, 03:34 AM	#15
AndÃºril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Treebeard.

08-07-2005, 03:43 AM	#16
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Treebeard irritates you? I guess he can seem a bit lugubrious and plodding... but I like him. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

08-08-2005, 01:05 AM	#18
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Tom irritates me sometimes, too. I'm surprised Goldberry doesn't just haul back and smack him sometimes! __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

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