ROTK Trivia - Page 9

LutraMage · 07-06-2003, 03:03 PM

So who's turn is it then?

Spock · 07-06-2003, 03:19 PM

If it's ok, I'll ask so we can get things moving again.

Who and under what circumstances (see another compound question

) said "oft hope is born, when allis forlorn?"

Ararax · 07-06-2003, 08:31 PM

um spock i read the first post there were no rules about that the question was about a character in the ROTK and didnt belong in any other trivia post, since the appendics come with ROTK and not any other book theres nothign in the rules about it

***azalea*** · 07-06-2003, 09:30 PM

I have sent a PM to Indril Anarion asking that she as the thread starter come and clarify whether or not she intended for the Appendices to be included here. I think that's the best way to settle it. While the matter is still in dispute, let's go ahead with Spock's question, since it's his turn to go regardless. Proceed.

Spock · 07-06-2003, 09:35 PM

CAN'T FIND MY GLASSES SO CAPS-EXCUSE PLEASE-

IT'S BEEN THE RULE WRITTEN OR UNWRITTEN-YOU DON'T USE THE APPENDEX FOR QUESTIONS. YES ROTK HAS THE APPENDIX FOR ALL THE TRILOGY BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT VALID.
AGAIN IF WE'RE CHANGING THE RULES THEN THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOOK ITSELF MAKE NO SENSE AND THE ODDS GO DOWN FOR THOSE WHO MAY KNOW THE BOOK AND FAVOR THOSE WHO MEMORIZE MINUTIAE INSTEAD. THERE IS ANOTHER TRIVIA THREAD WHICH PERMITS THIS BUT THIS ONE HASN'T. HOPE THIS HELPS.
OH ONE LAST, 17 PAGES OF QUESTIONS AND OVER 99% HAVE FOLLOWED THE FORMAT USING THE BOOK AS THE SOURCE AND NO FURTHER .i.e. EPENDIXES FOLLOWS FORM FOLLOWS RULES

Ararax · 07-06-2003, 09:40 PM

*cough*
listen to the mod
quit saying your own opinions let azalea find out as she said

Spock · 07-06-2003, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by azalea
I have sent a PM to Indril Anarion asking that she as the thread starter come and clarify whether or not she intended for the Appendices to be included here. I think that's the best way to settle it. While the matter is still in dispute, let's go ahead with Spock's question, since it's his turn to go regardless. Proceed.

If it's ok, I'll ask so we can get things moving again.

Who and under what circumstances (see another compound question ) said "oft hope is born, when allis forlorn?"

***azalea*** · 07-06-2003, 09:51 PM

I wasn't really making an argument for or against, I just felt that a fair way to handle it would be to let the thread starter note what her intentions were regarding the matter, if any. If she didn't even think about it, we can decide from there. So far I think people have tended to stick to the story itself, I think most of the people participating are not the "minutiae" (sp?) kind (if you know what I mean), and I don't think the occasonal question from the Appendix will do any harm. However, I also understand that some people that like to participate would feel at a disadvantage if a lot of A questions started popping up (esp. from Appendix E :0 ), so I think not including it is just as valid. Then again, people have asked questions about dates and such in this thread and the others IIRC, so that means each of the three threads could be peppered with A questons.
Do you remember which thread it is that you refer to in your post, Spock, that does allow A questions?

Edit: Oops, sorry, I was writing this when you reposted your question! Yes, let's just get things moving again at this point, and we'll worry about the A thing later.

lacemkr90 · 07-06-2003, 10:52 PM

To answer Spock's question.

Quote:

Oft hope is born, when all is forlorn

was said by Legolas to Gimi about the need for wind to sail from Pelargir to Harlond in time to save Minas Tirith. Soon afterwards the wind came up.

Spock · 07-07-2003, 08:42 AM

Yes, good go. Your turn.

lacemkr90 · 07-07-2003, 10:00 AM

Try this one:
On the paths of the dead Aragron and his company found the “bones of a mighty man”
Who was he and since when (what event) had he been there?

Cirdan · 07-07-2003, 10:28 AM

It was Baldor and he walked the Paths of the Dead sfter Meduseld was completed.

lacemkr90 · 07-07-2003, 10:45 AM

Correct

Wow that was fast, I'll have to think of a harder one next time.
Your turn Cirdan.

Cirdan · 07-07-2003, 02:34 PM

That was hard enough. I just really like that paticular passage.

Name a character desended from the Black Numenoreans.

Indril Anarion · 07-07-2003, 05:50 PM

Okay...it's not that I want to be a bother... but I have recently been informed that their is a controversy as to whether or not questions from the Appendices are to be included. The answe is no. This is ROTK Trivia...that means questions from the story...if you wish to askl questions from the Appendices, start a thread titled Appendices Trivia....thank you

Spock · 07-07-2003, 06:40 PM

dances in the aisles and tosses confetti in the air.....

.........singing.....lemeral alazingin lemeral alazingin, a zemeral
a zemeral......

***azalea*** · 07-07-2003, 09:30 PM

Okay, that answers our question then, folks. Thanks, Indril, for clearing that up.
I'm wondering if it might be fun to start a trivia thread in the ME forum that would be for ALL of the "outer circle" stuff, not just the Appendices. It could include questions about Elvish, stuff from UT, Letters, whatever. That way those that want trivia on the deeper stuff would have a special place for that.

Spock · 07-07-2003, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cirdan
That was hard enough. I just really like that paticular passage.

Name a character desended from the Black Numenoreans.

OK THE RULING IS IN, NOW IS THIS QUESTION IN THE ROTK OR IN THE APPENDEX IN WHICH CASE IT IS INVALID, VOID, NO GOOD.

Cirdan · 07-07-2003, 09:36 PM

An excellent idea! Maybe some rule like a clue about the age or something. It could get pretty obscure since there are several versions and forms of some tales.

Cirdan · 07-07-2003, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spock
OK THE RULING IS IN, NOW IS THIS QUESTION IN THE ROTK OR IN THE APPENDEX IN WHICH CASE IT IS INVALID, VOID, NO GOOD.

Sorry. This IS in RoTK and is a valid question.

07-06-2003, 03:19 PM	#162
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	If it's ok, I'll ask so we can get things moving again. Who and under what circumstances (see another compound question ) said "oft hope is born, when allis forlorn?" __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-06-2003, 08:31 PM	#163
Ararax Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NEW JERSEY! Posts: 375	um spock i read the first post there were no rules about that the question was about a character in the ROTK and didnt belong in any other trivia post, since the appendics come with ROTK and not any other book theres nothign in the rules about it __________________ Woah Deep Last edited by Ararax : 07-06-2003 at 08:44 PM.

07-06-2003, 09:35 PM	#165
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	CAN'T FIND MY GLASSES SO CAPS-EXCUSE PLEASE- IT'S BEEN THE RULE WRITTEN OR UNWRITTEN-YOU DON'T USE THE APPENDEX FOR QUESTIONS. YES ROTK HAS THE APPENDIX FOR ALL THE TRILOGY BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT VALID. AGAIN IF WE'RE CHANGING THE RULES THEN THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOOK ITSELF MAKE NO SENSE AND THE ODDS GO DOWN FOR THOSE WHO MAY KNOW THE BOOK AND FAVOR THOSE WHO MEMORIZE MINUTIAE INSTEAD. THERE IS ANOTHER TRIVIA THREAD WHICH PERMITS THIS BUT THIS ONE HASN'T. HOPE THIS HELPS. OH ONE LAST, 17 PAGES OF QUESTIONS AND OVER 99% HAVE FOLLOWED THE FORMAT USING THE BOOK AS THE SOURCE AND NO FURTHER .i.e. EPENDIXES FOLLOWS FORM FOLLOWS RULES __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Last edited by Spock : 07-06-2003 at 09:43 PM.

07-06-2003, 09:40 PM	#166
Ararax Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NEW JERSEY! Posts: 375	cough listen to the mod quit saying your own opinions let azalea find out as she said __________________ Woah Deep

07-07-2003, 08:42 AM	#170
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Yes, good go. Your turn. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-06-2003, 03:03 PM	#161
LutraMage Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tolkien's England where the tale grew in the telling... Posts: 330	So who's turn is it then?

07-06-2003, 09:30 PM	#164
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I have sent a PM to Indril Anarion asking that she as the thread starter come and clarify whether or not she intended for the Appendices to be included here. I think that's the best way to settle it. While the matter is still in dispute, let's go ahead with Spock's question, since it's his turn to go regardless. Proceed.

07-06-2003, 09:51 PM	#168
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I wasn't really making an argument for or against, I just felt that a fair way to handle it would be to let the thread starter note what her intentions were regarding the matter, if any. If she didn't even think about it, we can decide from there. So far I think people have tended to stick to the story itself, I think most of the people participating are not the "minutiae" (sp?) kind (if you know what I mean), and I don't think the occasonal question from the Appendix will do any harm. However, I also understand that some people that like to participate would feel at a disadvantage if a lot of A questions started popping up (esp. from Appendix E :0 ), so I think not including it is just as valid. Then again, people have asked questions about dates and such in this thread and the others IIRC, so that means each of the three threads could be peppered with A questons. Do you remember which thread it is that you refer to in your post, Spock, that does allow A questions? Edit: Oops, sorry, I was writing this when you reposted your question! Yes, let's just get things moving again at this point, and we'll worry about the A thing later.

07-07-2003, 10:00 AM	#171
lacemkr90 Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ithilien Posts: 44	Try this one: On the paths of the dead Aragron and his company found the “bones of a mighty man” Who was he and since when (what event) had he been there?

07-07-2003, 10:28 AM	#172
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	It was Baldor and he walked the Paths of the Dead sfter Meduseld was completed. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

07-07-2003, 10:45 AM	#173
lacemkr90 Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ithilien Posts: 44	Correct Wow that was fast, I'll have to think of a harder one next time. Your turn Cirdan.

07-07-2003, 02:34 PM	#174
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	That was hard enough. I just really like that paticular passage. Name a character desended from the Black Numenoreans. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

07-07-2003, 05:50 PM	#175
Indril Anarion Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: My heart is forever in Mirkwood Posts: 429	Okay...it's not that I want to be a bother... but I have recently been informed that their is a controversy as to whether or not questions from the Appendices are to be included. The answe is no. This is ROTK Trivia...that means questions from the story...if you wish to askl questions from the Appendices, start a thread titled Appendices Trivia....thank you __________________ I'm a Jesus Freak and proud of it... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us." -Gandalf, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody tosses a Dwarf." - Gimli, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Save Ferris!!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My true Elven name is Idril Anarion, but I misspelled in the username, and now I can't fix it... Oh, well...now you know... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't be afraid of death....Be afraid of the unlived life- Tuck Everlasting

07-07-2003, 06:40 PM	#176
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	dances in the aisles and tosses confetti in the air..... .........singing.....lemeral alazingin lemeral alazingin, a zemeral a zemeral...... __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Last edited by Spock : 07-07-2003 at 06:42 PM.

07-07-2003, 09:30 PM	#177
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Okay, that answers our question then, folks. Thanks, Indril, for clearing that up. I'm wondering if it might be fun to start a trivia thread in the ME forum that would be for ALL of the "outer circle" stuff, not just the Appendices. It could include questions about Elvish, stuff from UT, Letters, whatever. That way those that want trivia on the deeper stuff would have a special place for that.

07-07-2003, 09:36 PM	#179
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	An excellent idea! Maybe some rule like a clue about the age or something. It could get pretty obscure since there are several versions and forms of some tales. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

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