Assasin's Shadow Discussion Thread - Page 9

Acalewia · 01-20-2006, 02:03 PM

Ok those last few posts were great!
rTR did you forget Elnar was coming with Cumaar and Willow. He will prove quite useful.

rohirrim TR · 01-20-2006, 06:16 PM

oh yeah, we need to tie him in somewhere too, we have so many characters its a little confusing.

Curubethion · 01-20-2006, 07:18 PM

BTW rTR...Alatar doesn't have Narya.

Curmaar does...unless he got a cheap Chinese bootleg of Narya?

Lady Willow Rose · 01-20-2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

FYI: Alatar is not a mortal just so you know, he is a blue wizard who now has two wizards (morluin and alatriel) to crazygonuts on.

Right, I just noticed that you called Alatariel a wizard. Sorry, I'm slow. But, she's not a wizard.

Sorry.

Acalewia · 01-21-2006, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

oh yeah, we need to tie him in somewhere too, we have so many characters its a little confusing.

I'm thinking of a way to tie Elnar in. I've started already, in case you haven't noticed. Little by little anyway.

rohirrim TR · 01-23-2006, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curubethion

BTW rTR...Alatar doesn't have Narya.

Curmaar does...unless he got a cheap Chinese bootleg of Narya?

hmm, that would make Curmaar servant of the secret fire right?

that way Alatar could still be Wielder of the flame of Anor, unless the flame of anor is in fact Narya in that case i'm screwed and i'll come up with someting else....let me know and I'll edit it.

rohirrim TR · 01-23-2006, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Willow Rose

Right, I just noticed that you called Alatariel a wizard. Sorry, I'm slow. But, she's not a wizard.

Sorry.

thats right my bad, she's a corrupted elf right? thats what I called her in my post, for lack of a better description.

*death to the 90 sec. rule*

Lady Willow Rose · 01-23-2006, 07:40 PM

Well... Not really. She's immortal but not of that world. Not a breed of anything, really.

It's complicated.

Curubethion · 01-24-2006, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

hmm, that would make Curmaar servant of the secret fire right?

that way Alatar could still be Wielder of the flame of Anor, unless the flame of anor is in fact Narya in that case i'm screwed and i'll come up with someting else....let me know and I'll edit it.

AAAAAGH!!!! MIND MELT!!!

Here's what the Encyclopedia of Arda had to say...
"'You cannot pass,' he said. The orcs stood still, and a dead silence fell. 'I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass."
Gandalf's challenge to the Balrog
from The Fellowship of the Ring II 5 The Bridge of Khazad-dûm

A mysterious power claimed by Gandalf in the face of Durin's Bane. It is nowhere else referred to, and so its particular meaning remains unclear. Anor is the Sun, and so literally the 'flame of Anor' would be the light of the Sun, which originated in the fiery fruit of Laurelin, one of the Two Trees of Valinor. Gandalf seems to be referring, then, to the power he gains as a servant of the Lords of the West, in defiance to the corrupted darkness of the Balrog.

Alternatively, it has been suggested that Gandalf is referring here to Narya, the Ring of Fire that he bore. This idea certainly fits with the notion that he was the 'wielder' of the Ring, and that it had a fiery character. However, it seems highly unlikely that Gandalf would want to reveal his ownership of a Ring of Power - a matter of utmost secrecy - to one of his greatest enemies.
So I guess your post stands. Alatar can be wielder of the Flame of Anor, if Mithrandir passed that power on to him. So it would work just like you said up there.
Phew...got that straight...

Acalewia · 01-24-2006, 02:38 PM

wow. Btw Curub, Elnar looks more like a man then an elf. He doesn't have the pointy ears.

Curubethion · 01-24-2006, 07:50 PM

Okay. Did I say he had pointy ears?

Acalewia · 01-25-2006, 02:32 PM

You said fair skined elf. When I introduced him Colomir noticed he didn't look like an elf. Just letting you know for future reference.

rohirrim TR · 01-25-2006, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curubethion

AAAAAGH!!!! MIND MELT!!!

Here's what the Encyclopedia of Arda had to say...
"'You cannot pass,' he said. The orcs stood still, and a dead silence fell. 'I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass."
Gandalf's challenge to the Balrog
from The Fellowship of the Ring II 5 The Bridge of Khazad-dûm

A mysterious power claimed by Gandalf in the face of Durin's Bane. It is nowhere else referred to, and so its particular meaning remains unclear. Anor is the Sun, and so literally the 'flame of Anor' would be the light of the Sun, which originated in the fiery fruit of Laurelin, one of the Two Trees of Valinor. Gandalf seems to be referring, then, to the power he gains as a servant of the Lords of the West, in defiance to the corrupted darkness of the Balrog.

Alternatively, it has been suggested that Gandalf is referring here to Narya, the Ring of Fire that he bore. This idea certainly fits with the notion that he was the 'wielder' of the Ring, and that it had a fiery character. However, it seems highly unlikely that Gandalf would want to reveal his ownership of a Ring of Power - a matter of utmost secrecy - to one of his greatest enemies.
So I guess your post stands. Alatar can be wielder of the Flame of Anor, if Mithrandir passed that power on to him. So it would work just like you said up there.
Phew...got that straight...

I'm glad we got that figured out, I always thought narya was the "secret fire" since at that time Gandalf didn't wear it openly, so the mysterious "flame of anor" is like the force for wizards.

Curubethion · 01-26-2006, 01:43 AM

Whoa, wait a sec! Why is everyone going back to MT?
Faramir will fight his own battles...

rohirrim TR · 01-26-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curubethion

Whoa, wait a sec! Why is everyone going back to MT?
Faramir will fight his own battles...

Alatar: whew, that was a close, for a minute there I thought everyone was leaving again.

Lady Willow Rose · 01-27-2006, 01:08 AM

I'm just going back because... well... Willow has a very protective stance when it comes to Aragorn.

Lady Willow Rose · 01-29-2006, 08:50 PM

*coughs* Uh... hello? Anybody planning on posting?

Curubethion · 01-30-2006, 08:10 PM

Don't worry...
By now, the attack by the Druedain will begin, and the parties involved (rTR and Acalewia) will need to RP it. The Assassin is also coming, with his army. The battle should begin before aid can come...a little more dramatic that way.
When nightfall comes, there'll be a little time for dialogue with the mini-Fellowship.

Lady Willow Rose · 01-31-2006, 01:35 AM

So, should Willow keep heading for the icedrake or shall I make a detour?

Curubethion · 01-31-2006, 08:56 PM

The fellowship ought to stay together, although a sub-plot/detour would work, as long as it doesn't head back to MT or totally negate the trip

01-20-2006, 02:03 PM	#161
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	Ok those last few posts were great! rTR did you forget Elnar was coming with Cumaar and Willow. He will prove quite useful. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

01-20-2006, 07:18 PM	#163
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	BTW rTR...Alatar doesn't have Narya. Curmaar does...unless he got a cheap Chinese bootleg of Narya? __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

01-23-2006, 07:40 PM	#168
Lady Willow Rose Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a field of paper flowers Posts: 733	Well... Not really. She's immortal but not of that world. Not a breed of anything, really. It's complicated. __________________ Real love is a mixture of pleasure, pain and a soul-deep happiness that blasts any complaints out of the water. When you're in love, his voice makes you smile and his laughter warms your heart. And when he weeps, you feel yourself dying in each fallen tear. Love is madness of the very best sort.

01-24-2006, 02:38 PM	#170
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	wow. Btw Curub, Elnar looks more like a man then an elf. He doesn't have the pointy ears. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

01-24-2006, 07:50 PM	#171
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Okay. Did I say he had pointy ears? __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

01-25-2006, 02:32 PM	#172
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	You said fair skined elf. When I introduced him Colomir noticed he didn't look like an elf. Just letting you know for future reference. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

01-26-2006, 01:43 AM	#174
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Whoa, wait a sec! Why is everyone going back to MT? Faramir will fight his own battles... __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

01-27-2006, 01:08 AM	#176
Lady Willow Rose Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a field of paper flowers Posts: 733	I'm just going back because... well... Willow has a very protective stance when it comes to Aragorn. __________________ Real love is a mixture of pleasure, pain and a soul-deep happiness that blasts any complaints out of the water. When you're in love, his voice makes you smile and his laughter warms your heart. And when he weeps, you feel yourself dying in each fallen tear. Love is madness of the very best sort.

01-29-2006, 08:50 PM	#177
Lady Willow Rose Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a field of paper flowers Posts: 733	coughs Uh... hello? Anybody planning on posting? __________________ Real love is a mixture of pleasure, pain and a soul-deep happiness that blasts any complaints out of the water. When you're in love, his voice makes you smile and his laughter warms your heart. And when he weeps, you feel yourself dying in each fallen tear. Love is madness of the very best sort.

01-30-2006, 08:10 PM	#178
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Don't worry... By now, the attack by the Druedain will begin, and the parties involved (rTR and Acalewia) will need to RP it. The Assassin is also coming, with his army. The battle should begin before aid can come...a little more dramatic that way. When nightfall comes, there'll be a little time for dialogue with the mini-Fellowship. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) Last edited by Curubethion : 01-30-2006 at 08:11 PM.

01-31-2006, 01:35 AM	#179
Lady Willow Rose Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a field of paper flowers Posts: 733	So, should Willow keep heading for the icedrake or shall I make a detour? __________________ Real love is a mixture of pleasure, pain and a soul-deep happiness that blasts any complaints out of the water. When you're in love, his voice makes you smile and his laughter warms your heart. And when he weeps, you feel yourself dying in each fallen tear. Love is madness of the very best sort.

01-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#180
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	The fellowship ought to stay together, although a sub-plot/detour would work, as long as it doesn't head back to MT or totally negate the trip __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

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