Eru/Fate - Page 8

jammi567 · 07-06-2006, 12:43 PM

but, really, you're not missing out on anything. in two years time i wouldn't mind living in america.

Butterbeer · 07-06-2006, 06:52 PM

mmm ... maybe CHILE? ..not overly sure why but i'd like to do a stint there i guess ...

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er- back to the SIL then please?

jammi567 · 07-06-2006, 06:54 PM

i know it's totally my fault of distracting everyone, but how about we go back on topic, and talk about the Powers that control middle earth.

Butterbeer · 07-06-2006, 06:55 PM

do they though, control middle earth? Is that really their intended role or their arrogance?

jammi567 · 07-06-2006, 06:57 PM

errrrrrrr, arragance.

jammi567 · 07-08-2006, 06:08 AM

so, yes, anyone wish to answer the question of why the valars arragancehelps to rule middle earth.

durinsbane2244 · 07-08-2006, 11:45 AM

i think it was their intended role. if Eru has these guys, right, and they're the ultimate [after him] power of each different element/area of creation, and he says, "hey, chaps, good singing! now why don't you go take a look-see down at what we've done?" i think that knowing that they, as faithful Valar, arethe reresentatives of Eru's will, and they're power, they were fully intended to govern Arda. now, i have yet to see any interference whatsoever in the affairs of Middle Earth. going over there to get Morgoth was there own buisness, he buggered off to another country. they had every right to get him. and telling the race of Man to stay away from Arda, understandable as well. as they were intentionally made with mortality, they should abide in mortal realms, so then, when they wouldn't stop what was, in essence, forcibly invading Arda, against the wills of its owners, they were banished to ME, which, in my opinion, was fair. so yeah, in conclusion, i think they were meant to govern.

jammi567 · 07-08-2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durinsbane2244

and telling the race of Man to stay away from Arda, understandable as well. as they were intentionally made with mortality, they should abide in mortal realms

intresting. so if everything happened roughly the same in the beginning, except instead of elves, it was men who woke first, do you think that the valar would've done the same thing and taken them to valinor, or would they still have been made to stay in middle earth/beleriand because they were mortals.

durinsbane2244 · 07-08-2006, 12:55 PM

good question. if Manwe knew Eru's will as well as they say he did, he obviously knew they were meant for mortality, and thus hopefully would make the same choice.

jammi567 · 07-08-2006, 01:16 PM

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jammi567 · 07-08-2006, 01:34 PM

i thound this very intersting thread of turin and free will here. Have a read of it, and then post what you think in relation to valar and their actions.

jammi567 · 07-10-2006, 12:06 PM

is this a boring thread now, or is it that we've just used up all ideas that we've got?

durinsbane2244 · 07-10-2006, 12:12 PM

i think we've run out of ideas, mate....

jammi567 · 07-10-2006, 12:26 PM

do you think i should ask a mod to close it?

durinsbane2244 · 07-11-2006, 11:27 AM

i think we can keep it open in case we think of something...

jammi567 · 07-11-2006, 11:39 AM

yer, just in case.

Valtir · 10-06-2006, 11:00 PM

The path to the answer is to ask: Does Eru sing jazz or opera?

Seems like an opera kinda guy to me.

jammi567 · 10-07-2006, 04:52 AM

opera. but then, that's his public face. when he's alone, he puts on his makeup and becomes a goth rocker.

jammi567 · 03-19-2007, 04:01 PM

I know that this is a really, really old thread of mine, but now that we have some people interested in this board again, i thought i'd boost it, so that maybe we can get some new ideas for it.

Butterbeer · 03-19-2007, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammi567

do you think i should ask a mod to close it?

Traitor!

Live and let live ... or die in a straight-jacket!

07-06-2006, 12:43 PM	#141
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	but, really, you're not missing out on anything. in two years time i wouldn't mind living in america. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-06-2006, 06:54 PM	#143
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	i know it's totally my fault of distracting everyone, but how about we go back on topic, and talk about the Powers that control middle earth. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-06-2006, 06:57 PM	#145
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	errrrrrrr, arragance. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-08-2006, 06:08 AM	#146
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	so, yes, anyone wish to answer the question of why the valars arragancehelps to rule middle earth. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-08-2006, 11:45 AM	#147
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i think it was their intended role. if Eru has these guys, right, and they're the ultimate [after him] power of each different element/area of creation, and he says, "hey, chaps, good singing! now why don't you go take a look-see down at what we've done?" i think that knowing that they, as faithful Valar, arethe reresentatives of Eru's will, and they're power, they were fully intended to govern Arda. now, i have yet to see any interference whatsoever in the affairs of Middle Earth. going over there to get Morgoth was there own buisness, he buggered off to another country. they had every right to get him. and telling the race of Man to stay away from Arda, understandable as well. as they were intentionally made with mortality, they should abide in mortal realms, so then, when they wouldn't stop what was, in essence, forcibly invading Arda, against the wills of its owners, they were banished to ME, which, in my opinion, was fair. so yeah, in conclusion, i think they were meant to govern. __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-06-2006, 06:52 PM	#142
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	mmm ... maybe CHILE? ..not overly sure why but i'd like to do a stint there i guess ... ................................... er- back to the SIL then please?

07-06-2006, 06:55 PM	#144
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	do they though, control middle earth? Is that really their intended role or their arrogance?

07-08-2006, 12:55 PM	#149
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	good question. if Manwe knew Eru's will as well as they say he did, he obviously knew they were meant for mortality, and thus hopefully would make the same choice. __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-08-2006, 01:16 PM	#150
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	deleted. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-08-2006, 01:34 PM	#151
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	i thound this very intersting thread of turin and free will here. Have a read of it, and then post what you think in relation to valar and their actions. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-10-2006, 12:06 PM	#152
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	is this a boring thread now, or is it that we've just used up all ideas that we've got? __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-10-2006, 12:12 PM	#153
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i think we've run out of ideas, mate.... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-10-2006, 12:26 PM	#154
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	do you think i should ask a mod to close it? __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

07-11-2006, 11:27 AM	#155
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i think we can keep it open in case we think of something... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-11-2006, 11:39 AM	#156
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	yer, just in case. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

10-06-2006, 11:00 PM	#157
Valtir Sapling Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 14	The path to the answer is to ask: Does Eru sing jazz or opera? Seems like an opera kinda guy to me. __________________ I am a servant of the Secret Fire.

10-07-2006, 04:52 AM	#158
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	opera. but then, that's his public face. when he's alone, he puts on his makeup and becomes a goth rocker. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

03-19-2007, 04:01 PM	#159
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	I know that this is a really, really old thread of mine, but now that we have some people interested in this board again, i thought i'd boost it, so that maybe we can get some new ideas for it. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.