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Old 09-14-2006, 06:48 PM   #141
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A boatswain, often (at least since 1868) phonetically spelled and pronounced bosun, is a warrant officer who is foreman of a ship's crew and is also third mate.



Originally, onboard a sailing ship such as a man-of-war or a galleon, the boatswain was in charge of a ship's anchors, cordage, colors, deck crew and the ship's boats. It remains his duty to summon the crew to work by a whistle known as boatswain's pipe.

In the Royal Navy, in so far as that task did not fall to the master at arms he would also administer physical punishments, both informally with his boatswain's cane on the boys (and Girls ) or with a rope's end on the adult sailors, at his own accord, and formally on deck on captain's or court martial's orders, usually birching or wielding the cat o' nine tails; in a large crew he could delegate this to one or more boatswain's mate(s), who might alternate after each dozen of lashes.

By tradition and superstition, only the boatswain is allowed to whistle while on board, lest an unwitting sailor "whistle up the wind". Hence the phrase, "Only fools and boatswains..."

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Old 09-14-2006, 06:56 PM   #142
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The use of the Boatswains Call in English ships can be traced back with certainty to the days of the
Crusades, AD 1248. In former days it was worn in English ships as an honoured badge of rank,
probably because it had always been used of passing orders. As long ago as 1485 it was worn as
the badge of the Lord High Admiral of England and was worn by his successor in office up to
1562.
Thereafter it was used throughout the English fleets for passing Orders, and since 1671 it has
always been known as the Boatswains Call. Nowadays the “Boatswain’s Call and Chain” is the
badge of office of “The Chief Boatswains Mate, Quartermaster and Boatswains Mates”. In the Sea
Cadet Corps, the office holder would be the “Quartermaster” and the “Boatswains Mate”.
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Old 09-14-2006, 06:57 PM   #143
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Heh, delivering lashes

I'd like to see him try to "dish out punishment" to Dick (who no longer has nerve endings)
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:00 PM   #144
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just so long as he watches the whistling ...

(Kor may be in trouble tho' )

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Old 09-14-2006, 07:09 PM   #145
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Except for Kor's rank is higer than the Bosun's

Kor is among the officers now, where as the bosun is just in charge of the mates.

Different structures. (I think)
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:37 PM   #146
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yeah, but whistling mate .... tis bad luck ... an ye knows how a crew ..esp pirates feel about bad luck .... next ye'll be tellin me we have a woman on board ...
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:39 PM   #147
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Heh, delivering lashes

I'd like to see him try to "dish out punishment" to Dick (who no longer has nerve endings)

what use is a Dick without nerve endings?

mmm ...maybe itching powder may be more appropriate?

Well if the cap'n wants discipline on board ...
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:20 AM   #148
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Old 09-15-2006, 04:30 AM   #149
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Now, Kor is among the officers, but why would he be in trouble to begin with?
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:06 AM   #150
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:21 AM   #151
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Better tell Enelya, then

She whistles when she's nervous

Or annoyed

Or bored

Or can't sleep
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:26 AM   #152
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Is my guy still KO-d?
Nah, wake him up whenever you're ready.

LWR Could you edit your last post, you wrote Eresse into it when she is out exploring with Rana. Ta muchly
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:39 PM   #153
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*face/palm*

Oy, that was dense
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Old 09-15-2006, 02:04 PM   #154
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It's no worries. Everyone does silly mistakes.

You could use Elendendil, he's not posted he's awake yet.

Oh wait, you changed it already nevermind
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BB, thats to USE a whistle. The metal kind. Not whistle with ones own mouth, hell, when I was sailing, whistling was an artform. As was humming and singing.
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Hey Sane, what you up to today? Can I see you?
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So the little Huorn is a Nipper Eh? I think she can handle that. Trees are strong.
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So the little Huorn is a Nipper Eh? I think she can handle that. Trees are strong.
I figured that'd be the best option for her, since she won't be quick getting around below decks, or up the rigging. But she'll easily wiegh anchor.
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Captain, Enelya is the kind who wants to help everyone at once so if people start asking favors of her she's going to run around like a mad woman.

Don't get tooooo angry at her. She just wants to please
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Fair enough. XK will only get angry if she gets underfoot, or causes problems.

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