Euthanasia - Page 7

***Jonathan*** · 12-14-2006, 02:51 AM

That article would fit better in the euthanasia thread since it's not about abortion at all

I'd take that article with a big pinch of salt. The writer is a devout critic of euthanasia and when he claims there's an ongoing collapse of medical ethics in the Netherlands, I'd like to check that up myself. As far as I know, euthanasia is strictly regulated and it is probably very difficult for doctors to bypass those laws and euthanize when it's forbidden.

***Earniel*** · 12-14-2006, 05:31 AM

That article was just dripping with bias, almost propaganda. But seen who wrote it, I can see why.

I have a hard time believing some of his 'facts', even though I am not an expert in the matter. And as Jonathan said, euthanasia is very stricly regulated by law.

hectorberlioz · 12-14-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan

I'd take that article with a big pinch of salt. The writer is a devout critic of euthanasia and when he claims there's an ongoing collapse of medical ethics in the Netherlands, I'd like to check that up myself.

Well that was obvious enough, but I just wondered if that kind of thing really is going on up there...

***Earniel*** · 12-14-2006, 04:41 PM

Moved to euthanasia thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Well that was obvious enough, but I just wondered if that kind of thing really is going on up there...

What kind of thing exactly? The article talks about several different situations.

hectorberlioz · 12-14-2006, 04:50 PM

Euthanisation of born children, who have no say in the matter....

***Earniel*** · 12-14-2006, 05:39 PM

Speaking for the Belgian law for the moment, as I am not entirely familiar with the differences and simularities with the Dutch law. The euthanasia law is strictly centered around the patient's request. If the patient isn't (legally) capable to request it, then you're not actually dealing with euthanasia as defined by our laws. Children are therefore currently excluded. However there's still debate to include them in certain cases, but so far there's nothing final.

But in cases of premature births with no realistic survival chances, doctors can decide to stop or don't start any treatment, that will eventually result in the death of the child, but only after consulting collegues. Actively ending a life is rarer and demands both the consent of the parents and specialists. All cases are logged and examined later.

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12-14-2006, 05:39 PM	#126
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Speaking for the Belgian law for the moment, as I am not entirely familiar with the differences and simularities with the Dutch law. The euthanasia law is strictly centered around the patient's request. If the patient isn't (legally) capable to request it, then you're not actually dealing with euthanasia as defined by our laws. Children are therefore currently excluded. However there's still debate to include them in certain cases, but so far there's nothing final. But in cases of premature births with no realistic survival chances, doctors can decide to stop or don't start any treatment, that will eventually result in the death of the child, but only after consulting collegues. Actively ending a life is rarer and demands both the consent of the parents and specialists. All cases are logged and examined later. __________________ We are not things.

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