Dr. Who - Page 7

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-03-2011, 01:25 AM

I've been out of town this weekend, so I haven't seen the newest, therefore NOT READING NOT READING NOT READING! ><

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-03-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RÃ*an

I think Amy's pregnant with Dr. Who ....

he gets reborn that way instead of regenerating.

And he gets reborn as a girl! Who's for the six-year-old-girl-Doctor hypothesis?

So, either
a) we have some Doctamy hanky panky.
b) Amy gets preggers with Doctor.
c) Maybe the Doctor just regenerates this way?

OR, is this possibly Jenny?

Still, how is the whole Eleventh-Doctor-getting-killed-thing resolved? Or is this not yet clear?

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And in the nitpicky category - what happens to the alien bodies when the Earthlings kill them? Are we constantly stepping over them and forgetting it?

Or do they conveniently evaporate?

I wondered that, too.

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and poor river.. the last time she got to kiss the doctor. :/

I know!!! Her face just killed me!!!

Nerdanel · 05-03-2011, 07:42 PM

hehe, it's a fun hypothesis, but i don't think i can say i'm for it.

although i have been waiting for the doctor to regenerate into a female..

Draken · 05-04-2011, 08:13 AM

So did the Silence destroy the Tardis in revenge? If so, how? If the Silence have spent all of time since 1969 fleeing an ever-expanding, unwittingly-genocidal human race, have they been forced to spread to other worlds? Did they use their post-hypnotically suggestive ways to put together that unlikely Pandorica-building alliance? Just why did they want to get hold of a spacesuit and (assuming it was their doing) strap a little girl in it while giving her the means to call for help? She seemed more significant to them than mere bait.

What did they mean by telling Amy that she will "bring the Silence?". As they had her in the same vessel that was in The Lodger, and that we were told then was a sort-of-TARDIS, presumably they can travel in time - which would explain why they claimed to have had her there for "many days". The woman at the orphanage looking through a non-existent hatch and pronouncing "she's only dreaming" - what was THAT about?

As for the positive/negative pregnancy scan - I wonder if that means that Amy being pregnant is one of those turning points in time, one that hasn't been resolved yet?

And a full-blown Timelord-style regeneration from the little girl to finish with! Not Jenny's "a little cough of energy and look I'm better" - a proper one.

What makes speculation so difficult is that Moffat understands the blogiverse and fandom in general. He know how our minds work and that's helping him generate more questions than answers with every episode, damn him.

As for the episode itself - loved it. The opening sequence was audacious in its misdirection, Canton was great, poor deranged Renfrew was great (the orphange sequence was straight out of Call of Cthulhu), the solution was fabulously inventive.

As for dead Silence putrefaction - our minds edit out all information about them, remember - so I'm guessing that would include odours etc too!

***RÃan*** · 05-04-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Draken

The woman at the orphanage looking through a non-existent hatch and pronouncing "she's only dreaming" - what was THAT about?

Yeah, that was REALLLY weird!!

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As for dead Silence putrefaction - our minds edit out all information about them, remember - so I'm guessing that would include odours etc too!

Maybe that's why we evolved walking - we're actually lifting our feet to step over those dead bodies until they're eaten by Vashta Nerada!

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-04-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Draken

poor deranged Renfrew was great (the orphange sequence was straight out of Call of Cthulhu)

Totally.

***RÃan*** · 05-06-2011, 04:21 AM

Yes!!

Dr Who alert - I was watching a 1996 movie called "Jude" because I saw Christopher Eccleston was in it (it's fun to watch the Doctors in other roles), and after about 40 minutes, there's a scene in a pub, and guess who pops up to talk to him? David Tennant!

Nerdanel · 05-06-2011, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RÃ*an

Yes!!

Dr Who alert - I was watching a 1996 movie called "Jude" because I saw Christopher Eccleston was in it (it's fun to watch the Doctors in other roles), and after about 40 minutes, there's a scene in a pub, and guess who pops up to talk to him? David Tennant!

haha, i saw that as well.. it was an awesome moment.

BeardofPants · 05-06-2011, 06:19 AM

River Song = the Astronaut (aka Amy's kid)?

Nerdanel · 05-06-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BeardofPants

River Song = the Astronaut (aka Amy's kid)?

perhaps. it seems like it's too obvious, though.. and moffat doesn't seem to like obvious.

***RÃan*** · 05-06-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdanel

haha, i saw that as well.. it was an awesome moment.

And Tennant was so Doctor Who there, too!

So crazy-energy like!

Anyone see anyone else from the Whoniverse in movies/on tv? Anyone ever seen Rose? I think I've seen Catherine Tate once on some other program., but can't remember what it was. But seeing TWO doctors like that so totally unexpectedly was sure fun

I rewatched some Torchwood t'other day - the one about Adam, the memory guy - kind of similar to the current memory aliens. That was an interesting concept, too.

Nerdanel · 05-06-2011, 11:14 AM

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Anyone see anyone else from the Whoniverse in movies/on tv? Anyone ever seen Rose? I think I've seen Catherine Tate once on some other program., but can't remember what it was. But seeing TWO doctors like that so totally unexpectedly was sure fun

i've seen john simm (the master) in several shows, of which life on mars is my favourite. great, great show, and simm is a very good actor.

i saw christopher eccleston in 28 days later, and was horrified that the doctor could be so evil. :P

i've seen david tennant in quite a few shows/movies.. seeing him in casanova was hilarious and weird, in einstein and eddington he played eddington with andy serkis as einstein and did a really good job, he was the only one that made the quatermass experiment watchable, and i have the dvd but yet haven't seen him in hamlet.

it's always weird to see them in other roles, but most of them are good enough actors that you forget about it after a while..

***RÃan*** · 05-06-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdanel

i have the dvd but yet haven't seen him in hamlet.

Hamlet is bloody marvellous!

BeardofPants · 05-06-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdanel

perhaps. it seems like it's too obvious, though.. and moffat doesn't seem to like obvious.

I thought so at first too, but didn't she mention that she met him as a young girl? Or am I mis-remembering? I *am* torn by the whole --it seems obvious-- and how neatly it fits. The astro- girl appears to kill him, and River is obvi in prison for something bad... and then there's the whole weird bit with the tardis glittery yellow stuff coming out of both the doctor and the girl. What the hell? My brain hurts.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-06-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RÃ*an

I think I've seen Catherine Tate once on some other program, but can't remember what it was.

I'm guessing the Catherine Tate Show, featuring (among others) the magnificent Nan Taylor.

mithrand1r · 05-07-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerdanel

i've seen john simm (the master) in several shows, of which life on mars is my favourite. great, great show, and simm is a very good actor.

i saw christopher eccleston in 28 days later, and was horrified that the doctor could be so evil. :P

i've seen david tennant in quite a few shows/movies.. seeing him in casanova was hilarious and weird, in einstein and eddington he played eddington with andy serkis as einstein and did a really good job, he was the only one that made the quatermass experiment watchable, and i have the dvd but yet haven't seen him in hamlet.

it's always weird to see them in other roles, but most of them are good enough actors that you forget about it after a while..

I usually enjoy seeing famous actors in other roles. The only Doctors I have seen in other roles were:

Tom Baker in
The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1974)
The Silver Chair (TV Series 1990)

Peter Davison in
The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy (TV mini-series 1981)
All Creatures Great and Small (TV Series 1978â€“1990)

David Prowse (Darth Vader) was also in "The Hitch Hikers Guide"

Draken · 05-07-2011, 04:55 PM

Catherine Tate was in the Catherine Tate show? You get all the difficult ones, Gwai!

Peter Davison was also in A Very Peculiar Practice which was quite good, and The Last Detective, which I never watched.

Rian, they filmed a lot of Jude here at Durham. I often cross the bridge where he had a scene with Kate Winslet.

John Simms has just starred in Exile. Both he and it were marvellous. And you're right, Nerdanel, Life On Mars was just about the best thing ever.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-07-2011, 05:23 PM

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Catherine Tate was in the Catherine Tate show? You get all the difficult ones, Gwai!

Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

***Earniel*** · 05-07-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RÃ*an

Anyone see anyone else from the Whoniverse in movies/on tv?

I once saw a younger Catherine Tate in an Agatha Christie movie as a paranoid russian housemaid. Rubbish russian accent, was rather hilarious.

mithrand1r · 05-07-2011, 11:31 PM

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Anyone see anyone else from the Whoniverse in movies/on tv?

Martha is on the UK Law and Order. Not bad show, but they are rerunning many episodes from the original L&O (polished up for UK locale).

05-03-2011, 01:25 AM	#121
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I've been out of town this weekend, so I haven't seen the newest, therefore NOT READING NOT READING NOT READING! >< __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-03-2011, 07:42 PM	#123
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	hehe, it's a fun hypothesis, but i don't think i can say i'm for it. although i have been waiting for the doctor to regenerate into a female.. __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

05-04-2011, 08:13 AM	#124
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	So did the Silence destroy the Tardis in revenge? If so, how? If the Silence have spent all of time since 1969 fleeing an ever-expanding, unwittingly-genocidal human race, have they been forced to spread to other worlds? Did they use their post-hypnotically suggestive ways to put together that unlikely Pandorica-building alliance? Just why did they want to get hold of a spacesuit and (assuming it was their doing) strap a little girl in it while giving her the means to call for help? She seemed more significant to them than mere bait. What did they mean by telling Amy that she will "bring the Silence?". As they had her in the same vessel that was in The Lodger, and that we were told then was a sort-of-TARDIS, presumably they can travel in time - which would explain why they claimed to have had her there for "many days". The woman at the orphanage looking through a non-existent hatch and pronouncing "she's only dreaming" - what was THAT about? As for the positive/negative pregnancy scan - I wonder if that means that Amy being pregnant is one of those turning points in time, one that hasn't been resolved yet? And a full-blown Timelord-style regeneration from the little girl to finish with! Not Jenny's "a little cough of energy and look I'm better" - a proper one. What makes speculation so difficult is that Moffat understands the blogiverse and fandom in general. He know how our minds work and that's helping him generate more questions than answers with every episode, damn him. As for the episode itself - loved it. The opening sequence was audacious in its misdirection, Canton was great, poor deranged Renfrew was great (the orphange sequence was straight out of Call of Cthulhu), the solution was fabulously inventive. As for dead Silence putrefaction - our minds edit out all information about them, remember - so I'm guessing that would include odours etc too! __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

05-06-2011, 04:21 AM	#127
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Yes!! Dr Who alert - I was watching a 1996 movie called "Jude" because I saw Christopher Eccleston was in it (it's fun to watch the Doctors in other roles), and after about 40 minutes, there's a scene in a pub, and guess who pops up to talk to him? David Tennant! __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

05-06-2011, 06:19 AM	#129
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	River Song = the Astronaut (aka Amy's kid)? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

05-07-2011, 04:55 PM	#137
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	Catherine Tate was in the Catherine Tate show? You get all the difficult ones, Gwai! Peter Davison was also in A Very Peculiar Practice which was quite good, and The Last Detective, which I never watched. Rian, they filmed a lot of Jude here at Durham. I often cross the bridge where he had a scene with Kate Winslet. John Simms has just starred in Exile. Both he and it were marvellous. And you're right, Nerdanel, Life On Mars was just about the best thing ever. __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?