Eowyn or Arwen? - Page 7

Arathorn · 05-01-2002, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by Eärniel

Do sheep even like coffee? I always thought they stuck to grass.

Yeah, better stick to pipe weed BoPeep.

Radagast The Brown · 05-01-2002, 01:24 PM

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originally posted by Wulažg

You're right. I'm just so mad since they cut out Glorfindel and Bombadil

grrrrrr

Ha!!! Just because they (the directors) cut the parts of Bombadil and Glorfindel doesn't mean that Arwen isn't a good character in the book.

JenniferTook · 05-03-2002, 04:14 AM

Which do I like better, Arwen or Eowyn? Well....I know that immediately, but I can see why it would be hard choice.

I think I like Eowyn better because she is easier to identify with. I have experienced unrequited love a lot, but never eternal life....lol. Eowyn goes through very human reactions to her circumstances and yet still shows bravery and loyalty. She was forced to watch her father figure almost waste away and yet she never left until he was better. She had to endure not having what she felt to be the love of her life. You feel her bravery, but when she runs away to the army, hoping for death, you still feel sympathy for her. Who's to say that in her situation, we wouldn't do the same? Arwen seems to unattainable and sometimes I get the feeling that, although she was brave and loyal, it just seems easier for Elves to be like that. This is probably just a silly feeling, but that is how I feel!

That I would rather marry Faramir than Aragorn. :P

Jennifer

Laredith · 05-04-2002, 06:56 PM

Eowyn definately. She did a lot. Arwen's just kinda...there...(btw, I'm new, so how do I get that pic thing and title next to my name?)

***azalea*** · 05-04-2002, 08:56 PM

The pic (avatar) you can get by going into "user cp" and fiddling around (don't know exactly, haven't done it myself); the title you must earn.

Elf Girl · 05-05-2002, 08:08 AM

You earn it by getting 50 posts for Enting, 100 for Elven Warrior, and 500 for Elf Lord.

I think in the book, Arwen is not as interesting as Eowyn, because she never really did anything. She sort of disappeared for TTT, and then reappered and we all said "HUH? Who's SHE?"

Radagast The Brown · 05-05-2002, 11:31 AM

And you earn to 60000 if you are a moderator.
Elf Girl, I agree with you that Eowyn is more interesting but I still rather Arwen because she's more.... more.... elf.

BeardofPants · 05-05-2002, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
but I still rather Arwen because she's more.... more....

Typical male. Judge her on her looks rather than her merits. Ooh, ooh! Lets go with Arwen cos I'd like to ++++ her....

Comic Book Guy · 05-05-2002, 01:45 PM

Just to reply to the above post by Radagast, you don't become a moderator when you hit 60000 posts, we changed the Entmoot's staff's post count to stop spamming.

It's typical now for males to like Elves BeardOfPants?

Radagast The Brown · 05-05-2002, 02:15 PM

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originally posted by BeadrofPants
Typical male. Judge her on her looks rather than her merits. Ooh, ooh! Lets go with Arwen cos I'd like to ++++ her....

You did not understand me. I think Liv Taylor is ugly(!). I just rather Arwen. Why? because I hate Eowyn.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-05-2002, 10:28 PM

What?!?!?!? You hate Eowyn? Why? (is this, what, the first thread where we have disagreed on something?)

Why don't you like Eowyn? And who says she isn't stunningly beautiful? She is, it says so! Just not elven beauty. She's one of the few instances where I like a human better than an elf.

Lizra · 05-05-2002, 11:49 PM

It was kind of creepy the way Eowyn took one look at Aragorn and thought he was her "ticket out of here". Arwen did sew the banner, heehee!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-06-2002, 12:08 AM

That is a good point, Lizra. I tend not to look beyond how I can identify with her unrequited love problems, rather than looking at the source/reasons for her love of Aragorn. But, I can also see why she was so desperate to get out of there. She was stuck taking care of her aging uncle, who she cared deeply for, but it was not really her kind of thing. The nasty, vile wormtongue had his eyes on her...another thing I can sort of identify with (only barely, thank Eru)...another reason to want to get out of there as fast as she could. I mean, there are flaws in her reasoning, but you have to see where she's coming from, right?

Lizra · 05-06-2002, 01:48 AM

I suppose you're right Eruviel, It was just embarassing the way she imposed on Aragorn, a complete stranger. Poor thing, did she need some prozac? I love the way she finally fell in love the correct way and started smiling and growing plants, yea!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-06-2002, 01:53 AM

heh. prozac. Yeah, it is kinda embarrasing, with Aragorn, you're right. But I also like her in her desperate warrior-mode.

When she rides out with the Riders of Rohan and slays the Nazgul. And when she grows plants. I think she's a great character.

Lizra · 05-06-2002, 01:59 AM

Well, you certainly can't knock slaying a Nazgul! Horray for Eowyn!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-06-2002, 02:01 AM

Aye, hooray for Eowyn!!! I didn't think they gave her enough credit, either.

Radagast The Brown · 05-06-2002, 01:26 PM

amm.... I just don't like her qualaties. I don't know why, and don't ask me why. She is the most good chracter that I don't like in LOTR.

Ërendil · 05-09-2002, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf

Why don't you like Eowyn? And who says she isn't stunningly beautiful? She is, it says so! Just not elven beauty. She's one of the few instances where I like a human better than an elf.

Same here! I like elves but Eowyn is really great. Hooray for Eowyn!

Wulažg · 05-09-2002, 06:25 PM

It's just a matter of style. Girls in general are nicer than guys, and elves ae in general nicer than humans, therefore I'll almost always choose elves over humans, especially female ones. It's just that I prefer nice people to mean/hard people. Eowyn has been through a lot and hardened herself to the world so I wouldn't like her. No offense to you Eowyn lovers

05-04-2002, 06:56 PM	#124
Laredith Enting Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gondor...no seriously, I do. Posts: 64	Eowyn definately. She did a lot. Arwen's just kinda...there...(btw, I'm new, so how do I get that pic thing and title next to my name?) __________________ "You're rum little creatures, you humans." --Bree, from HHB ohh...and by the way... FRODO LIVES!!!

05-05-2002, 08:08 AM	#126
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	You earn it by getting 50 posts for Enting, 100 for Elven Warrior, and 500 for Elf Lord. I think in the book, Arwen is not as interesting as Eowyn, because she never really did anything. She sort of disappeared for TTT, and then reappered and we all said "HUH? Who's SHE?" __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

05-05-2002, 11:31 AM	#127
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	And you earn to 60000 if you are a moderator. Elf Girl, I agree with you that Eowyn is more interesting but I still rather Arwen because she's more.... more.... elf. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-05-2002, 10:28 PM	#131
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	What?!?!?!? You hate Eowyn? Why? (is this, what, the first thread where we have disagreed on something?) Why don't you like Eowyn? And who says she isn't stunningly beautiful? She is, it says so! Just not elven beauty. She's one of the few instances where I like a human better than an elf. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-05-2002, 11:49 PM	#132
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	It was kind of creepy the way Eowyn took one look at Aragorn and thought he was her "ticket out of here". Arwen did sew the banner, heehee! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-03-2002, 04:14 AM	#123
JenniferTook Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 21	Which do I like better, Arwen or Eowyn? Well....I know that immediately, but I can see why it would be hard choice. I think I like Eowyn better because she is easier to identify with. I have experienced unrequited love a lot, but never eternal life....lol. Eowyn goes through very human reactions to her circumstances and yet still shows bravery and loyalty. She was forced to watch her father figure almost waste away and yet she never left until he was better. She had to endure not having what she felt to be the love of her life. You feel her bravery, but when she runs away to the army, hoping for death, you still feel sympathy for her. Who's to say that in her situation, we wouldn't do the same? Arwen seems to unattainable and sometimes I get the feeling that, although she was brave and loyal, it just seems easier for Elves to be like that. This is probably just a silly feeling, but that is how I feel! That I would rather marry Faramir than Aragorn. :P Jennifer

05-04-2002, 08:56 PM	#125
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	The pic (avatar) you can get by going into "user cp" and fiddling around (don't know exactly, haven't done it myself); the title you must earn.

05-05-2002, 01:45 PM	#129
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Just to reply to the above post by Radagast, you don't become a moderator when you hit 60000 posts, we changed the Entmoot's staff's post count to stop spamming. It's typical now for males to like Elves BeardOfPants?

05-06-2002, 12:08 AM	#133
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	That is a good point, Lizra. I tend not to look beyond how I can identify with her unrequited love problems, rather than looking at the source/reasons for her love of Aragorn. But, I can also see why she was so desperate to get out of there. She was stuck taking care of her aging uncle, who she cared deeply for, but it was not really her kind of thing. The nasty, vile wormtongue had his eyes on her...another thing I can sort of identify with (only barely, thank Eru)...another reason to want to get out of there as fast as she could. I mean, there are flaws in her reasoning, but you have to see where she's coming from, right? __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-06-2002, 01:48 AM	#134
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I suppose you're right Eruviel, It was just embarassing the way she imposed on Aragorn, a complete stranger. Poor thing, did she need some prozac? I love the way she finally fell in love the correct way and started smiling and growing plants, yea! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-06-2002, 01:53 AM	#135
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	heh. prozac. Yeah, it is kinda embarrasing, with Aragorn, you're right. But I also like her in her desperate warrior-mode. When she rides out with the Riders of Rohan and slays the Nazgul. And when she grows plants. I think she's a great character. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-06-2002, 01:59 AM	#136
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Well, you certainly can't knock slaying a Nazgul! Horray for Eowyn! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-06-2002, 02:01 AM	#137
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Aye, hooray for Eowyn!!! I didn't think they gave her enough credit, either. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-06-2002, 01:26 PM	#138
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	amm.... I just don't like her qualaties. I don't know why, and don't ask me why. She is the most good chracter that I don't like in LOTR. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-09-2002, 06:25 PM	#140
Wulažg Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 306	It's just a matter of style. Girls in general are nicer than guys, and elves ae in general nicer than humans, therefore I'll almost always choose elves over humans, especially female ones. It's just that I prefer nice people to mean/hard people. Eowyn has been through a lot and hardened herself to the world so I wouldn't like her. No offense to you Eowyn lovers __________________ FRODO LIVES!! EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO rule the world!

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