Chronicles of Narnia Movie - The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe - Page 6

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hectorberlioz · 02-08-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by inked

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inked · 02-08-2006, 06:29 PM

What?! Are you suggesting there is bias in the entertainment industry against films with moral content? or * gasp * Christian content? Even when it outperforms any other Disney release?

Be still, my beating heart! You mean that Hollywood has an agenda?

Could it be that prejudice and discrimination exist in that exalted home of the neurotically insecure in their gifts and they need to validate their myopic view of life by not honoring anything with moral and ethical compass?

Oh, HB, say it isn't so!

hectorberlioz · 02-08-2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inked

What?! Are you suggesting there is bias in the entertainment industry against films with moral content? or * gasp * Christian content? Even when it outperforms any other Disney release?

Be still, my beating heart! You mean that Hollywood has an agenda?

Could it be that prejudice and discrimination exist in that exalted home of the neurotically insecure in their gifts and they need to validate their myopic view of life by not honoring anything with moral and ethical compass?

Oh, HB, say it isn't so!

That's right Inked *pats on back* (

), Hollywood has an agenda, and it doesn't involve morality in the positive, but rather the...relative (and it isn't your aunt Mabel!).

inked · 02-09-2006, 02:22 PM

A very worthwhile review and perspective from HOLLYWOOD JESUS at

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/commen...2_01_blog.html

teaser:
The Case of the Missing Narrator; Narnia without C.S. Lewis?
09 Feb 2006 Paul Martin | (Narnia Films)
Author Sarah Arthur has graciously written a guest analysis for Hollywood Jesus, taking a look at what The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe perhaps sadly lost in translation from book to screen. "Getting it right," Sarah suggests, means more than just nailing the visuals, plot, symbolism and characterization

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Oh, HB, I see. IT's only the Christians in Hollywood who have an agenda

! Or is it only they who have an erroneous agenda?

hectorberlioz · 02-09-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by inked

Oh, HB, I see. IT's only the Christians in Hollywood who have an agenda

! Or is it only they who have an erroneous agenda?

No inked, the christians(!) in hollywood aren't allowed to have an agenda becuase they have an agenda to have an agenda that keeps people from knowing hollywood's MAIN agenda. Their agenda descriminates against other agendas that DONT have a moral core, so therefore, that agenda is descriminatory.

It's that simple. Just ask Freud!

Lotesse · 02-09-2006, 03:40 PM

Hollywood, per se, does not have any other agenda besides making huge amounts of money. That is the ONLY "agenda" that Hollywood has. The entertainment industry is a money-making enterprise, and cares little about actual art or integrity. The Disney corporation is a prime example; they are moneymakers pure and simple. They have NO integrity whatsoever; (and they are awful npeople, believe me - I walked out on a job there at Disney studios in Burbank, a few years ago, they were so unbelieveably awful to everyone there) they care nothing for protecting art or telling a story honestly and with style. All they want to do is garner revenue.

inked · 02-09-2006, 05:59 PM

O, Lotesse, you make me laugh; honestly you do. No agenda driving the moguls of Hollywood. Ever heard of politically correct? Though I will concede that the primary agenda of hollywood is to make large amounts of money. That doesn't equate with no agenda, however.

And, thankfully, Walden Media made LWW. Disney merely dispersed it to outlets.

You mean that the company Walt and Mickey built isn't nice to the core and celebrating all sorts of family values in its workplace?

That sounds like a complaint I've heard against other agendized groups: they don't live up to their PR all the time, or some such.

edit: though I could have confused Hollywood with the liberal elite, I wonder why? http://magicstatistics.blogspot.com/...-hysteria.html

Lotesse · 02-09-2006, 07:15 PM

Inked, you sound like a paranoid delusional, all flustered and flapping your arms!

Look, Hollywood - the Entertainment Industry - could care less about anything except making money. Billions of dollars worth. Are you serious, do you really believfe the film industry cares about anything else BUT the business that they are in? And what's wrong with that? It's all about the money. No art, no message - it's what sells to the most consumers. You're incredibly naive if you actually believe it could be anything but. We must be misunderstanding each other somewhere...

hectorberlioz · 02-09-2006, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotesse

Inked, you sound like a paranoid delusional, all flustered and flapping your arms!

Look, Hollywood - the Entertainment Industry - could care less about anything except making money. Billions of dollars worth. Are you serious, do you really believfe the film industry cares about anything else BUT the business that they are in? And what's wrong with that? It's all about the money. No art, no message - it's what sells to the most consumers. You're incredibly naive if you actually believe it could be anything but. We must be misunderstanding each other somewhere...

Nevertheless, movie directors are inflecting their movies with "meaning". i.e., the meaning of Brokeback Mountain is that not only tight-jean-wearing, friendly-to-girl people are gay..that supposedly, some cowboys were or are.

But me and Inked are only having some fun jabs

Lotesse · 02-09-2006, 07:57 PM

It's because that's what will sell right now - not because of some noble reason or anything! Apparantly, crap like "Brokeback" is a hot commodity right now, so it's selling, and being "honoured" - what a bunch of hypocrisy and falseness!!! There's no wonderful message - it's just another 20 million dollar cartoon made to SELL, not to grace the world with a noble statement or work of art. Just more Hollywood product. Hollywood is the biggest American drug manufacturer, and the consumer who buys into it is the junkie.

hectorberlioz · 02-09-2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotesse

It's because that's what will sell right now - not because of some noble reason or anything! Apparantly, crap like "Brokeback" is a hot commodity right now, so it's selling, and being "honoured" - what a bunch of hypocrisy and falseness!!! There's no wonderful message - it's just another 20 million dollar cartoon made to SELL, not to grace the world with a noble statement or work of art. Just more Hollywood product. Hollywood is the biggest American drug manufacturer, and the consumer who buys into it is the junkie.

It's not doing THAT well in theatres.

but I guess they scrape up every million they can get...a million for them is like One Dollar for us

I don't doubt what you say, their money mongering...but they DO let loose their directors/philosophers.

The last sane person · 02-09-2006, 09:02 PM

"Brokeback Mountain" Yes? I think it would have been better named "The Good, The Bad and The Fabulous!" Much better name for it. But blah, thats why I dont go to movies any more.

hectorberlioz · 02-12-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The last sane person

"Brokeback Mountain" Yes? I think it would have been better named "The Good, The Bad and The Fabulous!" Much better name for it. But blah, thats why I dont go to movies any more.

I have a joke: why were Heath Ledger and Jake nominated for best actors, and not best actresses?

***Valandil*** · 02-13-2006, 09:12 AM

Oh my... I thought this thread would be about the new Narnia movie!

Anyway - finally saw it yesterday, and loved it!

Have to admit that it was easy to be sympathetic toward Edmund. He reminds me of my middle son (who is only 5 now). Mine won't listen to much of what he's told to do, and can be very sensitive - but he really has a good heart... and if ANY of them would run into a house subject to bomb attack to grab a picture of daddy, it would be him.

Somehow, I was more sympathetic to Edmund from watching the movie than from reading the book.

***Valandil*** · 02-14-2006, 08:45 AM

Oh - two other things:

I couldn't help but laugh out loud in the theater when the centaur general killed the minotaur general. Not that it was a funny incident - but the way the centaur used the two swords, and the way the minotaur fell, with the swords through the back of his neck - I think was mimicking how a matador kills a bull in the ring.

I also found it amusing that after Aslan killed the Witch, as he walked away, he said, "It is finished." - quoting the words of Jesus on the Cross, of course. I didn't recall that from the book - and sure enough, it wasn't there. Clever little add though. (although we could go ALL KINDS of directions theologically on that one - which was not my intent)

inked · 02-14-2006, 11:47 AM

Interesting interview with Skandar Keynes at

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/mo...t/13854678.htm

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inked · 02-15-2006, 11:29 AM

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hectorberlioz · 02-15-2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valandil

Oh - two other things:

I couldn't help but laugh out loud in the theater when the centaur general killed the minotaur general. Not that it was a funny incident - but the way the centaur used the two swords, and the way the minotaur fell, with the swords through the back of his neck - I think was mimicking how a matador kills a bull in the ring.

I also found it amusing that after Aslan killed the Witch, as he walked away, he said, "It is finished." - quoting the words of Jesus on the Cross, of course. I didn't recall that from the book - and sure enough, it wasn't there. Clever little add though. (although we could go ALL KINDS of directions theologically on that one - which was not my intent)

I wonder how concious of the theology Andrew Adamson was and is, that is in Narnia. Was that Aslan bit his idea?

rohirrim TR · 02-16-2006, 11:39 AM

yeah it was Adamsons's idea, but when someone mentioned the religious symboolysim of that line to him he had no idea of trying to do that; he was just trying to give the scene "closure".

02-04-2006, 09:33 PM	#101
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	And for DVD seekers..... pre-ordering info: http://www.narniafans.com/?id=775 and info on extended version: http://www.narniafans.com/ __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

02-08-2006, 06:29 PM	#103
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	What?! Are you suggesting there is bias in the entertainment industry against films with moral content? or * gasp * Christian content? Even when it outperforms any other Disney release? Be still, my beating heart! You mean that Hollywood has an agenda? Could it be that prejudice and discrimination exist in that exalted home of the neurotically insecure in their gifts and they need to validate their myopic view of life by not honoring anything with moral and ethical compass? Oh, HB, say it isn't so! __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

02-09-2006, 02:22 PM	#105
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	A very worthwhile review and perspective from HOLLYWOOD JESUS at http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/commen...2_01_blog.html teaser: The Case of the Missing Narrator; Narnia without C.S. Lewis? 09 Feb 2006 Paul Martin \| (Narnia Films) Author Sarah Arthur has graciously written a guest analysis for Hollywood Jesus, taking a look at what The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe perhaps sadly lost in translation from book to screen. "Getting it right," Sarah suggests, means more than just nailing the visuals, plot, symbolism and characterization +++++++++++++++++++++++++ encouraging words about LWW: http://www.narniafans.com/?id=781 IN the top 25 grossing films of all time! WOOOOOOO - WOOOOOOO!!!!! *************************** Oh, HB, I see. IT's only the Christians in Hollywood who have an agenda ! Or is it only they who have an erroneous agenda? __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism."** GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941 Last edited by inked : 02-09-2006 at 02:27 PM.

02-09-2006, 03:40 PM	#107
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Hollywood, per se, does not have any other agenda besides making huge amounts of money. That is the ONLY "agenda" that Hollywood has. The entertainment industry is a money-making enterprise, and cares little about actual art or integrity. The Disney corporation is a prime example; they are moneymakers pure and simple. They have NO integrity whatsoever; (and they are awful npeople, believe me - I walked out on a job there at Disney studios in Burbank, a few years ago, they were so unbelieveably awful to everyone there) they care nothing for protecting art or telling a story honestly and with style. All they want to do is garner revenue. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

02-09-2006, 05:59 PM	#108
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	O, Lotesse, you make me laugh; honestly you do. No agenda driving the moguls of Hollywood. Ever heard of politically correct? Though I will concede that the primary agenda of hollywood is to make large amounts of money. That doesn't equate with no agenda, however. And, thankfully, Walden Media made LWW. Disney merely dispersed it to outlets. You mean that the company Walt and Mickey built isn't nice to the core and celebrating all sorts of family values in its workplace? That sounds like a complaint I've heard against other agendized groups: they don't live up to their PR all the time, or some such. edit: though I could have confused Hollywood with the liberal elite, I wonder why? http://magicstatistics.blogspot.com/...-hysteria.html __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941 Last edited by inked : 02-09-2006 at 06:05 PM.

02-09-2006, 07:15 PM	#109
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Inked, you sound like a paranoid delusional, all flustered and flapping your arms! Look, Hollywood - the Entertainment Industry - could care less about anything except making money. Billions of dollars worth. Are you serious, do you really believfe the film industry cares about anything else BUT the business that they are in? And what's wrong with that? It's all about the money. No art, no message - it's what sells to the most consumers. You're incredibly naive if you actually believe it could be anything but. We must be misunderstanding each other somewhere... __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

02-09-2006, 07:57 PM	#111
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	It's because that's what will sell right now - not because of some noble reason or anything! Apparantly, crap like "Brokeback" is a hot commodity right now, so it's selling, and being "honoured" - what a bunch of hypocrisy and falseness!!! There's no wonderful message - it's just another 20 million dollar cartoon made to SELL, not to grace the world with a noble statement or work of art. Just more Hollywood product. Hollywood is the biggest American drug manufacturer, and the consumer who buys into it is the junkie. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

02-09-2006, 09:02 PM	#113
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	"Brokeback Mountain" Yes? I think it would have been better named "The Good, The Bad and The Fabulous!" Much better name for it. But blah, thats why I dont go to movies any more. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

02-13-2006, 09:12 AM	#115
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Oh my... I thought this thread would be about the new Narnia movie! Anyway - finally saw it yesterday, and loved it! Have to admit that it was easy to be sympathetic toward Edmund. He reminds me of my middle son (who is only 5 now). Mine won't listen to much of what he's told to do, and can be very sensitive - but he really has a good heart... and if ANY of them would run into a house subject to bomb attack to grab a picture of daddy, it would be him. Somehow, I was more sympathetic to Edmund from watching the movie than from reading the book. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

02-14-2006, 08:45 AM	#116
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Oh - two other things: I couldn't help but laugh out loud in the theater when the centaur general killed the minotaur general. Not that it was a funny incident - but the way the centaur used the two swords, and the way the minotaur fell, with the swords through the back of his neck - I think was mimicking how a matador kills a bull in the ring. I also found it amusing that after Aslan killed the Witch, as he walked away, he said, "It is finished." - quoting the words of Jesus on the Cross, of course. I didn't recall that from the book - and sure enough, it wasn't there. Clever little add though. (although we could go ALL KINDS of directions theologically on that one - which was not my intent) __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

02-14-2006, 11:47 AM	#117
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Interesting interview with Skandar Keynes at http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/mo...t/13854678.htm ENJOY! __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

02-15-2006, 11:29 AM	#118
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Award nominations from Sci Fi, Fantasy & Horror ----- 8 ! See story at : http://www.narniafans.com/?id=784 __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941