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Old 02-06-2004, 11:43 AM   #1041
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I should try and get you the turkish and bosnish translation.
Zovem se Anders (Bosnian and Croatian).
Adým Anders'dir OR
Benim adim Anders (Turkish, from two different sources. I don't know if either of them is correct).
Beat ya, Lalaith

Btw, check out this site with how you say 'my name is' in hundreds of languages.
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:52 PM   #1042
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ABBREVIATIONS FOR HOBBIES

A
AA - Animal Artistry (maker/seller of resins)
AH - Artistan's Hall
Andy - Andalusian
Appy - Appaloosa
APH - Appaloosa Performance Horse NEW!
AR - Artist Resin
ASB - American Saddlebred
ASBW - ASB Weanling
ASHF - Action Stock Horse Foal
AQHA - American Quarter Horse Association NEW!

B
BB - Black Beauty NEW!
BF/BFest - BreyerFest
BFA - Border Fine Arts
BHR - Black Horse Ranch
BITS - Back in the Saddle
BNA - big name artist
BNP - big name person
BO - best offer
BRS - blue ribbon sticker

C
CAF - Classic Arabian Foal
CAM - Classic Arabian Mare
CAS - Classic Arabian Stallion
CE - commemorative edition; collector's edition
Ches. - chestnut
CL/Cl. - classic-sized model
Clyde - Clydesdale
CM - customized model
COA - Certificate of Authenticity
CRS - Classic Rearing Stallion
CSB - Clock Saddlebred
CV - color variation
CWP - Cantering Welsh Pony

D
Deco - decorator
DG - dapple grey
disc - discontinued

E
EJ - Extreme Justice (a resin)
Etchie - etched model
EW - eyewhites

F
FAF - Family Arabian Foal
FAM - Family Arabian Mare
FAS - Family Arabian Stallion
FCM - factory customized model NEW!
FS - for sale; Fighting Stallion; Foundation Stallion
FSOT - for sale or trade NEW!
FT - for trade

G
Gl. - glossy
GLC - Great Lakes Congress (live show)

H
HA - Horsing Around (hobby magazine)
Hano - Hanoverian
Hart - Hartland
HI - Holiday Inn; Horse Illustrated
HIN - Holiday Inn North
H-R/HR - Hagen Renaker
HSO - horse-shaped object
HTC - Happy Trails Collectables
HTF - hard to find
Huck - Huckleberry Bey

I
IMC - Iron Metal Chief
IP - Indian Pony
IQH - Ideal Quarter Horse
IRL - in real life
ISH - Ideal Stock Horse

J
JAH - Just About Horses
Jam - Jamboree (The Model Horse Jamboree)
JCP - JC Penney
JH - John Henry
JM - Justin Morgan

K
Khemo - Khemosabi

L
LB - Little Bit
LDF - Lying Down Foal
LE - limited edition
Leg. - Legionario
LF - Lying Foal
LG - Lonesome Glory NEW!
LJJ - Laurie Jo Jensen (customizer/artist)
L/L - long/long (refers to the PS ISH mane/tail) NEW!
LP - Lady Phase
LS - live show
LSQ - live show quality
LTB - Llanarth True Briton

M
Mara - Marabella
MEPSA - Model Equine Photo Showers Association
MFT - Missouri Fox Trotter
MHCF - Model Horse Country Fair
MHS - model horse show
MIB - mint in box
MIC - Made in China NEW!
MIJ - Made in Japan (usually refers to Chinas)
MIP - mint in package
MLP - My Little Pony NEW!
MM - Micro Mini
MOC - mint on card
MOW - Man O' War
m/t - mane/tail
MXC - Model Exchange (an auction site)

N
NAMHSA - The North American Model Horse Shows Association
NAN - North American Nationals
NIB - new in box
NL - North Light
NM - near mint (most often); new mold
NR - no reserve
NRFB - never removed from box

O
o/b / OB - owned by
OBO - or best offer
OF - original finish
OM - old mold
OOAK - one of a kind
OPS - online photo show
OS - original sculpture
OTH - Ohio Top Hands (Drill Team)

P
PA - pedigree assignment; sometimes refers to Proud Arabian
PAF - Proud Arabian Foal
Palo - palomino
PAM - Proud Arabian Mare
PAS - Pround Arabian Stallion
PBR - Puyallup Breyer Roundup
ped - pedigree
PH - Performance Horse
POA - Pony of the Americas
PP - pre-production model; Paddock Pal (a.k.a. Little Bit)
PPD - postage pre-paid
Pre-pro - pre-production model
PS - photo show; Peter Stone
PT - partial trade NEW!
PSQ - photo show quality

Q
QH - Quarter Horse
QHG - Quarter Horse Gelding
QHY - Quarter Horse Yearling

R
rep - repaint; reputation
RF - Running Foal
RL - Rugged Lark
RM - Running Mare
ROA - rip-off artist
RR - regular run
RRH - repainted, remade, and rehaired (customized model)
RRQH1 - Rio Rondo Quarter Horse 1
RS - Running Stallion

S
SB - Saddlebred; sometimes Standardbred
SBW - Saddlebred Weanling
S/D - Stallion/Dam (usually referring to a S/D List)
Shermie - Sherman Morgan
SHF - Stock Horse Foal
SHM - Stock Horse Mare
SHS - Stock Horse Stallion
S/L - short/long (refers to the PS ISH mane/tail) NEW!
SLT - State Line Tack
SM - Stablemate
SR - special run
SRM - Semi-Rearing Mustang
SS - Stud Spider
SSHF - Standing Stock Horse Foal
STB - Standardbred

T
TB - Thoroughbred
THHN - The Hobby Horse News (hobby magazine)
TOC - Touch of Class
TOPSA - The Totally Online Photo Show Association
TP - time payment NEW!
Trad - traditional-sized model
Trak - Trakhener
TR - test run
TRU - Toys R Us
TS - Tent Special (at BreyerFest)
TSC - Tractor Supply Company NEW!
TT - top ten
TU - touched up
TWH - Tennessee Walking Horse (often refers to Breyer's "Midnight Sun" mold)

U
UP or U/P - unpainted
USET - United States Equestrian Team

V
VG/VGC - very good condition
VHTF - very hard to find

W
WB - warmblood
WCHE - World Champion Horse Equipment
WEOTT/WEIOTT - whatever else is on the table
WG - woodgrain
WH - Western Horse
Woodie - woodgrain
WP - western pleasure
WPH - Western Pleasure Horse
WTB - wanted to buy
WTTF - wanted to trade for

X none

Y none

Z
ZPB - Zippo Pine Bar

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Old 02-06-2004, 01:13 PM   #1043
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Zovem se Anders (Bosnian and Croatian).
Adým Anders'dir OR
Benim adim Anders (Turkish, from two different sources. I don't know if either of them is correct).
Beat ya, Lalaith

Btw, check out this site with how you say 'my name is' in hundreds of languages.
Well, actually I would have asked someone speaking that language. But, okay.
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:28 PM   #1044
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I don't know if they can dance or not. I meant, why were wrong in thinking that the Flamenco was named after the Flamingo bird.
*still waiting for enlightment*

Grey_Wolf, what's with the abbreviations?
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:31 PM   #1045
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*still waiting for enlightment*

Grey_Wolf, what's with the abbreviations?
I figured it might be fun.
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:37 PM   #1046
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The list so far....

Jag heter Anders (Swedish)
My name is Anders (English)
Ich heiße Anders (German)
Je m'appelle Anders (French)
Me llamo Anders (Spanish)
Nimeni on Anders (Finnish)
Nama saya Anders/Namaku Anders (Indo)
Mi chiamo Anders (Italian)
Wo jiao Anders (Mandarin)
Jmenuji se Anders (Czech)
Mit navn er Anders (Danish)
Naziwam siê Anders (Polish)
Ha'shem sheli hu Anders. (Hebrew).
I heet Anders. (Dutch)
Jeg heter Anders. (Norwegian)
Menya zovoot Anders (Russian)
My naam is Anders.(Afrikaans)
Zovem se Anders (Bosnian and Croatian).
Adým Anders'dir OR
Benim adim Anders (Turkish, from two different sources. I don't know if either of them is correct).

Even though there are a couple of hundred languages left according to the site that Jonathan posted about I think this will do.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:03 PM   #1047
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Well, actually I would have asked someone speaking that language. But, okay.
Well you can check up on the Bosnian and especially the Turkish to see if they are correct or not. I'm lost when it comes to those languages, I just happened to have a Swedish-Bosnian and Swedish-Turkish online translator
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:41 PM   #1048
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RR - regular run
...
Actually, RR stands for Roxxortised Racing (brought to you by the esteemed Ollie & Inky ).
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:05 PM   #1049
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Actually, RR stands for Roxxortised Racing (brought to you by the esteemed Ollie & Inky ).
It could be Rest & Recreation as well.
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Old 02-06-2004, 07:11 PM   #1050
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In a radio show, I heard a flamenco specialist explain where the name for this art form came from.

According to him, the son of Felipe and Juana la loca (Johanna de waanzinnige), Carlos (Karel) had Flemish 'mercenaries' as bodyguards, to prevent any attempts to murder him in Spain, as it had happened to his father.
Because of the political ties between Spanish and Flemish territories, there was an influx of FLemish immigrants into Spain (Hence "los Flamencos"). The lifestyles of the Flemish soldiers strongly contrasted with those of the refined Spanish at the time. Coming from Burgundy, they drank a lot, chased women all the time, etc. which was not appreciated in Spain, where Moorish/Arab influences were quite strong.

At about the same time, 'Gitanos' came into Spain from Egypt, also bringing with them a different lifestyle.

Later, the Gitanos were numerous enough to besiege a city, which they did at Vitoria (?). In retaliation, the Spanish arrested Gitanos on a large scale and put them in an early kind of concentration camps, men and women separately. However, Carlos III (Karel III) offered Gitanos their freedom and Spanish citizenship in exchange for their promise to settle down (instead of a nomadic lifestyle), convert to Catholicism, learn Spanish.
The gypsies, or Gitanos accepted the offer and asked to be called Flamencos, after the previous wave of immigrants, because the word Gitano had become such a strongly derogatory term.

That is how Flamenco (the art form), which is a mix of Moorish, Arab, Spanish, even Jewish influences, was named after the Flemish, one immigrant group of many who contributed to the dance.
I highlighted the bit that I liked. Hope that was interesting.
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:00 PM   #1051
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Highlighted the bit you liked eh?

Coming from Burgundy, they wouldn't be Flemish according to the current borders now. But then Burgundy was probably part of the Flemish region.

Interesting indeed. If I interpret correctly it was the Gitanos that lay at the base of the Flamenco art form who only took the name Flamenco to evade their own bad name. So basically .... it wasn't even the Flemish. LOL!

I'm sorry, I just find this sort of historical twists highly amusing in a sort of ironic way.
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Interesting indeed. If I interpret correctly it was the Gitanos that lay at the base of the Flamenco art form who only took the name Flamenco to evade their own bad name. So basically .... it wasn't even the Flemish. LOL!
What do you mean? You thought Flamenco dancers were originally Flemish?

What? So Flemish people don't go around drinking and chasing around the opposite sex any more? *Poof* There goes an image of you.
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What do you mean? You thought Flamenco dancers were originally Flemish?
Well if the name is derived from Flemish, you'd expect the Flemish to have to do at least something to do with the dance. But it sounded so unlike us that I had my doubts.

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What? So Flemish people don't go around drinking and chasing around the opposite sex any more?
To my knowledge no more than other people.

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*Poof* There goes an image of you.
That's hardly a fluffy image!
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Old 02-08-2004, 09:22 AM   #1054
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The beginning of Genesis in English:
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."


And here it is in Swedish:
" begynnelsen skapade Gud himmel och jord. Och jorden var öde och tom, och mörker var över djupet, och Guds Ande svävade över Vattnet.
Och Gud sade: Varde ljus; och det vart ljus."


Anyone knows these lines in another language?
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Old 02-08-2004, 09:41 AM   #1055
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The beginning of Genesis in English:
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."


And here it is in Swedish:
" begynnelsen skapade Gud himmel och jord. Och jorden var öde och tom, och mörker var över djupet, och Guds Ande svävade över Vattnet.
Och Gud sade: Varde ljus; och det vart ljus."


Anyone knows these lines in another language?
I know it the original language *proud*

If you want it - then here it is:
"Bereshit bara elohim et ha'shamaim ve'et ha'arez. Ve'ha'arez haita tohu va'vohu ve'hosheh al pnei tehom. Ve'ruah elohim merahefet al pnei ha'maim.
Va'yomer elohim yehi or va'yehi or."

The bible is not written like nowdays hebrew. The hebrew did change since the time of the bible.
There are placves where readers are not sure of the definition of words. But most words here are still used, just not much, and not in this text.
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The bible is not written like nowdays hebrew. The hebrew did change since the time of the bible.
There are placves where readers are not sure of the definition of words. But most words here are still used, just not much, and not in this text.
I know, it's like the New Testament that is written in old Greek, which differs a lot from today's Greek.

Oh, I heard some psalms in Hebrew this morning. I like the way some Jewish psalms are sung by the Rabbi
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"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."

And here it is in Swedish:
" begynnelsen skapade Gud himmel och jord. Och jorden var öde och tom, och mörker var över djupet, och Guds Ande svävade över Vattnet.
Och Gud sade: Varde ljus; och det vart ljus."


"Bereshit bara elohim et ha'shamaim ve'et ha'arez. Ve'ha'arez haita tohu va'vohu ve'hosheh al pnei tehom. Ve'ruah elohim merahefet al pnei ha'maim.
Va'yomer elohim yehi or va'yehi or."
"Im Anfang schuf Gott Himmel und Erde;
die Erde aber war wüst und wirr, Finsternis lag über der Urflut und Gottes Geist schwebte über dem Wasser. "
Gott sprach: Es werde Licht. Und es wurde Licht.
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:20 PM   #1058
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I know, it's like the New Testament that is written in old Greek, which differs a lot from today's Greek.

Oh, I heard some psalms in Hebrew this morning. I like the way some Jewish psalms are sung by the Rabbi
Yes, I think it would be the same.

Yes, as long as you don't need to sing them yourself. It's quite embarrassing, singing this way to a lots of people out loud. (in bar miztva. I'm quite proud for doing it, and I'm not going to do it again. )

When did you hear it? And where?
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Yes, I think it would be the same.

Yes, as long as you don't need to sing them yourself. It's quite embarrassing, singing this way to a lots of people out loud. (in bar miztva. I'm quite proud for doing it, and I'm not going to do it again. )

When did you hear it? And where?
We were going to watch the unveiling of a tombstone at a Jewish cemetary.
Yeah, I was at a Bar Mitzva once - I was thinking I would never dare to sing like that in front of all those people
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"Im Anfang schuf Gott Himmel und Erde;
die Erde aber war wüst und wirr, Finsternis lag über der Urflut und Gottes Geist schwebte über dem Wasser. "
Gott sprach: Es werde Licht. Und es wurde Licht.
Warum Sie veranschlagend vom guten Buch? Sie wissen, i havent schriftlicher Deutscher in einiger Zeit jetzt, also, wenn dort einige gramatical Störungen, bitte mich nicht schießen.

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