Riddling III

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Thurin

Haha! I think we are talking about the same thing. You must have done that on purpose.

The Sun. The Sun sprung from the death of one of the Two Trees / signaled the begining of the mortal years. It used to pause in Valinor before the destruction of Numenor and Valinor's removal. I must admit that I don't recall its role in the "last days".

Exactly. The Last Fruit of Laurelin the Golden. I hope you don't mind me making a play on your riddle. I love goofing around with words. The last days stuff was poetic license. (If there was trouble solving it, I would have pointed that out first if clues were needed).

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Thurin

Elleth - Do you mean Minas Morgul?

Not exactly...but close!

[CAB]

Originally Posted by Keith K

I hope you don't mind me making a play on your riddle.

No more than Gollum minded me playing with his. Actually, I am honored. About a year ago, I read through the old riddle threads, and there is no doubt that Keith K is the Entmoot riddling champ!

I probably should have left the riddle(s) for someone else to answer, but restraint isn't always my strongest point.

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Not exactly...but close!

Maybe, more specifically, the gates of Minas Morgul?

Gollum calls Sam and Frodo fools – they escape
Earnur goes there overly confident – he is captured
I seem to recall the gate being likened to a gaping mouth

[Midge]

Any active riddles?

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Thurin

Maybe, more specifically, the gates of Minas Morgul?

Gollum calls Sam and Frodo fools – they escape
Earnur goes there overly confident – he is captured
I seem to recall the gate being likened to a gaping mouth

Hm...no, you're very close! The Mouth refers here to a living thing...

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Midge

Any active riddles?

Yes, mine still hasn't been solved, but people have gotten close!

In the East it sits,
where hope will not linger
it captures all courage
but fools it can't finger
all the confident it siezes
but on the edge of a sword
one may enter, invisible,
without hearing one word
from the Mouth, who dwells
by this entrance to hell.

[Valandil]

I don't think I can fit in all the pieces for sure - but is it the Black Gate, and the Towers of the Teeth... with the Mouth referring to the Mouth of Sauron?

[Noble Elf Lord]

Originally Posted by Thurin

...and there is no doubt that Keith K is the Entmoot riddling champ!

That he is.

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Noble Elf Lord

That he is.

Thanks y'all. Praise from the riddlers is High Praise indeed!

Try this one while we wait to see if Val is correct on Elleth's riddle.


I'm the best, of course, of all the worst!

The greatest killer in all Middle Earth
Far to the east is the land of my birth.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by Keith K

I'm the best, of course, of all the worst!

The greatest killer in all Middle Earth
Far to the east is the land of my birth.

Great Plague (though I think that the race of Elves and the race of Men wouldn't be bad answers either).

[Wilhelm]

Here is another one...

Spawned from evil,
Guardian of the dark,
A cat like monster,
Caring only for death.

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Thurin

Great Plague (though I think that the race of Elves and the race of Men wouldn't be bad answers either).

Correct again! Thurin is too short a name! I name you Riddler Solver Extraordinaire! Obviously you are a student of the Appendices, perhaps you should be a teacher?

Also, my riddle only spoke of a singular killer. A race would be plural. Nice thinking though. (and ixnay on arguing that a disease is composed of lots of germs)

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Here is another one...

Spawned from evil,
Guardian of the dark,
A cat like monster,
Caring only for death.

While no cat herself, Shelob is the first thing that sprang into my head.

[Keith K]

Here's another of those event based riddles. See if y'all can guess what it is.

Two species friendship proved to last
Remembered from a distant past.

Yet good advice went by unheeded
causing strife that was not needed.

Then a stolen treasure traded
for supplies to those blockaded.
(their leader certainly felt jaded)

Nonetheless no food was sent
and a fight was called when none was meant.

note: To answer correctly, you must name who gave the advice, who didn't follow it, and the name of the treasure that was stolen

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Valandil

I don't think I can fit in all the pieces for sure - but is it the Black Gate, and the Towers of the Teeth... with the Mouth referring to the Mouth of Sauron?

Correct! (mostly)

The poem only refers to the Gates of Moria, aka the Black Gate.

Explanation:
In the East it sits, ---obvious location
where hope will not linger
it captures all courage
but fools it can't finger--hobbits often called fools
all the confident it siezes
but on the edge of a sword--Galadriel refers to the Fellowship's quest as being "on the edge of a sword"
one may enter, invisible, --The ring makes Frodo "invisible"
without hearing one word
from the Mouth, who dwells ---Yes, the Mouth of Sauron
by this entrance to hell.

[Wilhelm]

While no cat herself, Shelob is the first thing that sprang into my head.

King of the riddlers indeed... Shelob is correct.

"And as for Sauron: he knew where she lurked. It pleased him that she should dwell there hungry but unabated in malice, a more sure watch upon that ancient path into his land than any other that his skill could have devised. And Orcs, they were useful slaves, but he had them in plenty. If now and again Shelob caught them to stay her appetite, she was welcome: he could spare them. And sometimes as a man may cast a dainty to his cat ("his cat" he calls her, but she owns him not) Sauron would send her prisoners that he had no better uses for: he would have them driven to her hole, and report brought back to him of the play she made.

I either have to start trying allot harder or stop trying entirely it would seem... I will try harder (but later - it's a busy weekend ahead).

[Midge]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Here's another of those event based riddles. See if y'all can guess what it is.

Two species friendship proved to last
Remembered from a distant past.

Yet good advice went by unheeded
causing strife that was not needed.

Then a stolen treasure traded
for supplies to those blockaded.
(their leader certainly felt jaded)

Nonetheless no food was sent
and a fight was called when none was meant.

note: To answer correctly, you must name who gave the advice, who didn't follow it, and the name of the treasure that was stolen

Skip to the end if you don't want to read my thinking out loud.

So I've been reading the Narn i hin Hurin (I think it's called) and the first part of that riddle sounds like Turin and Beleg's friendship, Mablung's advice that Turin go to Thingol after Saeros died (which he disregarded) that caused strife between Turin and the Elves. The blockaded sounds like Mim's home - they took the sack he was carrying which he wouldn't be parted with but turned out to be carrying food and I think it said Turin was restless while they stayed in Mim's home?

So I guess my guess goes like this: Mablung gave good advice, Turin ignored it, and they stole a sack of roots from Mim?

[Valandil]

We've taken this thread over 1000 posts - so I'm closing it, and have started the 'Riddling IV' thread.