Tolkien's Languages - Page 5

Lalaith · 04-21-2003, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
You're on holidays as well? Austrians and Australians have uncanny parrallels!

Yes. You undoubtedly are the nicest person I have met. Pretty soon, though, I will have 500 posts so I may change my title to that. Plus, you know you admire me (not to mention miss me)

Why did you have to go Lalaith! Ahhh. I am so bored.

Yeah, Easter holidays. I love it. I always wondered if you have any holidays in summer, pardon, winter, aka July, August?

Yeah, I missed you that much.

I had to go to a Easter party with my relatives and then to the birthday party of my godfather (that sounds so strange). That was one of the worst evenings in my life. All of my family was there. Really every uncle and every cousin.

Ruinel · 04-21-2003, 01:03 PM

Aiquen nÃ¡ quettar, quetel Quenya lambÃ«.

Lalaith · 04-21-2003, 01:04 PM

Help. I just tried to make a meaningful Quenya sentence but I'm just to dumb. I'll give it up.

Ruinel · 04-21-2003, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
Help. I just tried to make a meaningful Quenya sentence but I'm just to dumb. I'll give it up.

PM me and I'll try to help. Also helpful: Wayfarer (if you can trust him and his insufferable personality

). Also, Falagar seems very knowledgable (and trustworthy).

Lalaith · 04-21-2003, 01:29 PM

I've lost all my illusions for today, so maybe I'll have another try tomorrow. Thanks.

Wayfarer · 04-21-2003, 05:38 PM

UhehtanÃ« mÃ³ta, Lalaith! Tamba!

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-21-2003, 05:54 PM

It appears this topic has been somewhat hijacked...

Wayfarer · 04-21-2003, 06:21 PM

Yes. We need an official quenya thread.

Ruinel · 04-21-2003, 06:39 PM

Lalaith, and everyone else, the kill joys of this thread are kicking us out (that's the bad news). The good news is that our 'conversations in quenya' have been moved by our neighborhood istar Wayfarer to 'I Quenya lia'. Go there and practice with me.

Edit: nevermind, SGH trashed it. We'll just have to continue here until we get kicked out of this one. hehehe

Wayfarer · 04-21-2003, 06:42 PM

Scratch that. :P

Oh, by the way.

My favorite tolkien language is sindarin. Nandorin is lovely as well. If only they were as complete as Quenya.

Ruinel · 04-21-2003, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Scratch that. :P

Oh, by the way. My favorite tolkien language is sindarin. Nandorin is lovely as well. If only they were as complete as Quenya.

Which is why I'm not learning those languages. I'm trying to learn one that is complete.

Then are we going to continue the 'conversations in Quenya' here? *looks around* I don't see anyplace else.

Wayfarer · 04-21-2003, 07:01 PM

I suppose. I dunno. :P

Ruinel · 04-21-2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
I suppose. I dunno. :P

Well, I posted a reply to your little trickery before. But there's been a lot of chit chat posted. As I am really nice and have a big heart, I'll post it for you again. Here it is...

Le nÃ¡r Ãºfaila. Umin quet i NÃºmenÃ³r lambÃ«. Ar umin merÃ« hanya ta. Ãva namuva ni naraca. NÃ¡ Ãºta i Quendi yassÃ« antauva i lambÃ« issÃ« an Atani mÃ* yessÃ«, yassÃ« nÃ³nantÃ«? An man haryantÃ« an antaista an I Quendi ya I Quendi Ãºista?

Got your book handy?

Wayfarer · 04-21-2003, 08:10 PM

Actually, I do.

universal fire not fair minded.
Not-desire speak in Adunic.
Outside not-desire wish know that.
Refuse will-be-judged I rend...

Gah. Later. I'm distracted right now.

Ruinel · 04-21-2003, 08:36 PM

Ah, crap! I thought I did good this time. *kicks self in head*

Let me fix it...

Ãšfailalya. Umin quet i NÃºmenÃ³r lambÃ«. Ar umin merÃ« hanyas. Ãvanamelya naraca. NÃ¡ Ãºta i Quendi yassÃ« antauva i lambÃ« issÃ« an Atani mÃ* yessÃ«, yassÃ« nÃ³nantÃ«? An man haryantÃ« an antaista an I Quendi ya I Quendi Ãºista?

Sorry. Hope this helps.

Let me know if I'm not using the correct endings and such. I'm still working on those.

Elvellyn · 04-21-2003, 10:42 PM

I would love to learn to speak Quenya, but I don't know if I have the time right now.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 04-21-2003, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
Ah, crap! I thought I did good this time. *kicks self in head*

Let me fix it...

Ãšfailalya. Umin quet i NÃºmenÃ³r lambÃ«. Ar umin merÃ« hanyas. Ãvanamelya naraca. NÃ¡ Ãºta i Quendi yassÃ« antauva i lambÃ« issÃ« an Atani mÃ* yessÃ«, yassÃ« nÃ³nantÃ«? An man haryantÃ« an antaista an I Quendi ya I Quendi Ãºista?

Sorry. Hope this helps. Let me know if I'm not using the correct endings and such. I'm still working on those.

Translated. I got:
Your unjust. I do not speak the Numenor lanugage. And i do not want to have it. Do not judge your harshly. Isn't it the Elves in which will give the language lore for Men in the (something), in which (something-they)? For who do they have for a knowledge-giver for the Elves which the Elves don't know?

I think you are confusing the suffices "you" and "your". "You" is "-l" or "-lye". "Your" is "-lya". If you meant to say "You are unjust" wouldn't you say "Ufaila nar le" or something similar. In the 4th sentence, you use "anta" with the future tense, or maybe my translation is bad. This is confusing, wouldn't it be past tense? The last sentences confused me in meaning, but I am beginner at Quenya.

What does "yesse" mean? I couldn't find it.

Lalaith · 04-22-2003, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
UhehtanÃ« mÃ³ta, Lalaith! Tamba!

Trying to translate it.

Falagar · 04-22-2003, 05:21 AM

(Sauron quetÃ«a):
I ohta nÃ¡ vanwa/lantÃ«?
Ilya nÃ¡ vanwa
I morion menello alantiÃ«
I mindor caitar rÃºcinÃ«
i cotumo nÃ¡ mi
ar colÃ« i cala, rato tuluvantÃ«
auta sÃ*, herunya, sÃ* lÃºmÃ« haryalyÃ«
nÃ³mer Ã«a undu.

(hint: it's a Blind Guardian-lyric)

Lalaith · 04-22-2003, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
UhehtanÃ« mÃ³ta, Lalaith! Tamba!

Hantale, Wayfarer! Elen sÃ*la lÃºmenn' omentielvo!
Merin sa haryalye alasse!
NamÃ¡rie!
Lalaith

04-21-2003, 01:04 PM	#83
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Help. I just tried to make a meaningful Quenya sentence but I'm just to dumb. I'll give it up. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-21-2003, 01:29 PM	#85
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I've lost all my illusions for today, so maybe I'll have another try tomorrow. Thanks. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-21-2003, 05:38 PM	#86
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	UhehtanÃ« mÃ³ta, Lalaith! Tamba! __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-21-2003, 05:54 PM	#87
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	It appears this topic has been somewhat hijacked... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-21-2003, 06:21 PM	#88
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Yes. We need an official quenya thread. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-21-2003, 01:03 PM	#82
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Aiquen nÃ¡ quettar, quetel Quenya lambÃ«.

04-21-2003, 06:39 PM	#89
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Lalaith, and everyone else, the kill joys of this thread are kicking us out (that's the bad news). The good news is that our 'conversations in quenya' have been moved by our neighborhood istar Wayfarer to 'I Quenya lia'. Go there and practice with me. Edit: nevermind, SGH trashed it. We'll just have to continue here until we get kicked out of this one. hehehe Last edited by Ruinel : 04-21-2003 at 06:54 PM.

04-21-2003, 06:42 PM	#90
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Scratch that. :P Oh, by the way. My favorite tolkien language is sindarin. Nandorin is lovely as well. If only they were as complete as Quenya. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned Last edited by Wayfarer : 04-21-2003 at 06:45 PM.

04-21-2003, 07:01 PM	#92
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I suppose. I dunno. :P __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-21-2003, 08:10 PM	#94
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Actually, I do. universal fire not fair minded. Not-desire speak in Adunic. Outside not-desire wish know that. Refuse will-be-judged I rend... Gah. Later. I'm distracted right now. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-21-2003, 08:36 PM	#95
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Ah, crap! I thought I did good this time. kicks self in head Let me fix it... Ãšfailalya. Umin quet i NÃºmenÃ³r lambÃ«. Ar umin merÃ« hanyas. Ãvanamelya naraca. NÃ¡ Ãºta i Quendi yassÃ« antauva i lambÃ« issÃ« an Atani mÃ* yessÃ«, yassÃ« nÃ³nantÃ«? An man haryantÃ« an antaista an I Quendi ya I Quendi Ãºista? Sorry. Hope this helps. Let me know if I'm not using the correct endings and such. I'm still working on those.

04-21-2003, 10:42 PM	#96
Elvellyn The Redneck Elf Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 539	I would love to learn to speak Quenya, but I don't know if I have the time right now. __________________ Oliphants make great pets.

04-22-2003, 05:21 AM	#99
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	(Sauron quetÃ«a): I ohta nÃ¡ vanwa/lantÃ«? Ilya nÃ¡ vanwa I morion menello alantiÃ« I mindor caitar rÃºcinÃ« i cotumo nÃ¡ mi ar colÃ« i cala, rato tuluvantÃ« auta sÃ, herunya, sÃ lÃºmÃ« haryalyÃ« nÃ³mer Ã«a undu. (hint: it's a Blind Guardian-lyric) __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

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