North American Relations - Page 5

***Valandil*** · 02-02-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthBound

... I wonder if Canada has ever done thought to draw up US invasion plans?

....

Personally, I think they've had their eye on North Dakota for a loooonnnng time! For sort of a new 'southern province' and 'warm-weather get-away' from those Canadian winters!

I hadn't known about those others though...

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Who changed the title of this thread?

This is talking about north America - not central or south america.

I changed it, because half this thread is about central America. (Cuba, and we talked about Mexico a bit.) We started to also get into South America a bit and it will probably also be relevant to future discussions.

Val, we haven't had any US inavsion plans... since we became a nation anyway.
(I mean, there was the war of 1812, but that went both ways, and it doesn't count anyway.)

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

I changed it, because half this thread is about central America. (Cuba, and we talked about Mexico a bit.)

Neither Mexico NOR Cuba are in Central America - they're both in NORTH America.

Central America is the region between Mexico and Colombia - the isthmus section - from Guatamala to Panama.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2005, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Neither Mexico NOR Cuba are in Central America - they're both in NORTH America.

Central America is the region between Mexico and Colombia - the ismus section - from Guatamala to Panama.

Heh.

Oh well, it's not like we can't still talk about North America.

Courtesy of a google search I now know to which region each country belongs, though this was harder than I thought. There's a reason I thought the Caribbean was part of Central America - no one else can decide where it is either. Central America isn't an actual continent-like land mass, and the only thing that separates North and South America is the Panama Canal. Hence the confusion. Finally I settled on this site. (Cuba is so in Central America.

)

North America:
Bermuda
Canada
Mexico
St. Pierre & Miquelon (France)
The United States of America

Central America:
Aruba
Antigua and Barbuda
Anguilla
Barbados
Bahamas
Belize
Navassa Island
Cayman Islands
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominica
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Grenada
Guadeloupe
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Clipperton Island
Jamaica
Martinique
Montserrat
Netherlands Antilles
Nicaragua
Panama
Puerto Rico
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Trinidad and Tobago
Turks and Caicos Islands
Saint Vincent/Grenadines
British Virgin Islands
Virgin Islands

South America
Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
French Guiana
Falkland Islands (United Kingdom)
Guyana
Suriname
Paraguay
Peru
Uruguay
Venezuela

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 03:28 PM

Of course and that site is incorrect - I've already posted many sites on the US - European Geography thread. ALL Carribean Islands are part of NORTH America.

YUou owuld pick probably the ONLY one that actually states what you believe.

As you pointed out - Central America is not a continent- it's like the term Middle east - it refers to a common region.

I don't like the title change - the discussion was supposed to be about North American relations - particularly between the US and Canada.

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 03:32 PM

Websters Dictionary....

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Central America

A region of southern North America extending from the southern border of Mexico to the northern border of Colombia. It separates the Caribbean Sea from the Pacific Ocean and is linked to South America by the Isthmus of Panama.

central america

n 1: the isthmus joining North America and South America; extends from the southern border of Mexico to the northern border of Colombia [syn: Central America] 2: the nations of Central America collectively [syn: Central America]

I'll go with Websters Dictinary - thank you very much - since they are actually correct.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Of course and that site is incorrect - I've already posted many sites on the US - European Geography thread. ALL Carribean Islands are part of NORTH America.

YUou owuld pick probably the ONLY one that actually states what you believe.

No, it was a comprehensive site.

Further research has turned up that Iceland is also part of North America.
EDIT: I'm going to go browse that thread now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerseydevil

As you pointed out - Central America is not a continent- it's like the term Middle east - it refers to a common region.

I don't like the title change - the discussion was supposed to be about North American relations - particularly between the US and Canada.

Deal.

That is how the thread started... do you have something to add to that discussion, because we can revive it.

Random factoid - according to the CIA factbook, Canada is Cuba's second largest export partner, after the Netherlands. (Russia is third.)
And... check out this cool (and official site, I think) of Trinidad and Tobago.
I'm finding this while trying to get an official answer on the Carribeans. I have a sinking feeling you're right though JD, grr losing arguments like this sucks.

EDIT2:

Quote:

CONTINENT NOTES:

The Caribbean Islands, Central America countries and Greenland are all considered part of North America.

From World Atlas.com

Curses, foiled again!

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

No, it was a comprehensive site.

Further research has turned up that Iceland is also part of North America.
EDIT: I'm going to go browse that thread now.

yeah - and so are the many flag sites that show NJ with the wrong flafg or with listing us as having a state song. Just because it looks comprensive - doesn't mean that it's correct.

Quote:

Deal.

That is how the thread started... do you have something to add to that discussion, because we can revive it.

Random factoid - according to the CIA factbook, Canada is Cuba's second largest export partner, after the Netherlands. (Russia is third.)
And... check out this cool (and official site, I think) of Trinidad and Tobago.
I'm finding this while trying to get an official answer on the Carribeans. I have a sinking feeling you're right though JD, grr losing arguments like this sucks.

I know I'm right.

I also don't have to partake in the discussion either with the change in the thread. Which I said above - I am planning on boycotting.

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

EDIT2:

From World Atlas.com

Curses, foiled again!

YOu really shouldn't question me so much. Someday people will learn - I'm always right - even if they disagree with me.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2005, 04:05 PM

Yes, it does appear that site made a mistake, at least about Iceland.

Wait a minute, you're boycotting the thread, just because I changed the name!? Oh c'mon... um... hello? Hellooo... I'll PM you.

EarthBound · 02-02-2005, 04:11 PM

I'm getting my NY license next week and will be venturing into Canada all the time starting next week. My farm is only 3 miles or so from the border. Quebec's capitol Montréal is only an hour away. So I should have LOTS to say soon on the subject.

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 06:21 PM

Ahh - the thread title has been changed back to "North American Relations"

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 02-02-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Ahh - the thread title has been changed back to "North American Relations"

Yeah. Aren't you happy.

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Golden Hair

Yeah. Aren't you happy.

Yes - otherwise I was going to boycott it.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2005, 06:45 PM

Does this have some sort of symbolic message about Canada-USA relationships?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthBound

I'm getting my NY license next week and will be venturing into Canada all the time starting next week. My farm is only 3 miles or so from the border. Quebec's capitol Montréal is only an hour away. So I should have LOTS to say soon on the subject.

I'm looking forward to hearing about that! I've never been to Ontario or Québec!

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Does this have some sort of symbolic message about Canada-USA relationships?

yes it does.

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I'm looking forward to hearing about that! I've never been to Ontario or Québec!

I've been to Ontario many many times.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2005, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

yes it does.

This can't be good. Or can it.....

Canada, (represented by a third-year forestry student from BC) is willing to compromise over things that aren't important in an effort to maintain good relations with friends and neighbours.

The USA, (represented by an entrepreneur from NJ) is armed with a great deal of knowledge, and isn't afraid to boycott things that annoy him.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 02-02-2005, 07:09 PM

erm, ... *meep*?

so, other than NAFTA, what other North American Relations can we talk about?

inked · 02-02-2005, 08:01 PM

Maybe Earthbound can tell us about how her farm is really a top-secret US govt facility for the PREVENTION of the invasion of the USA by Canada. I know that we have been openly infiltrated by Canadians like William Shatner and Celine Dion and Shania Twain, but I mean the truly serious invasion with the Mounties and all!

jerseydevil · 02-02-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

erm, ... *meep*?

so, other than NAFTA, what other North American Relations can we talk about?

YOu'd be surprised by the many things that go on in North America that Europeans don't know about.

02-02-2005, 03:28 PM	#85
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jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Ahh - the thread title has been changed back to "North American Relations" __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

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inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Maybe Earthbound can tell us about how her farm is really a top-secret US govt facility for the PREVENTION of the invasion of the USA by Canada. I know that we have been openly infiltrated by Canadians like William Shatner and Celine Dion and Shania Twain, but I mean the truly serious invasion with the Mounties and all! __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

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