Túrin and Nienor

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Lalaith
Yeah, since I read again that Faramir had a beard I always think of him with this full black beard.

Did Faramir had a beard? That was interesting, where did you read that? In the pictures of Faramir that I have seen, he has no beard.

Look at this picture, for example (if the picture won't show up, reload the page):
http://ew2.lysator.liu.se/loth/a/n/a...wynfaramir.jpg
(See how this picture fits with my signature)

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Lalaith
Yeah, since I read again that Faramir had a beard I always think of him with this full black beard. And then I think of the movie version and then I'm totally confused with this mixture.
But I did not think of Túrin having a beard. I can't imaging how kissing a man with a beard is and Nienor kissed him.
Okay, that are two opposite statements. Faramir with beard can kiss Eowyn, but Túrin with beard could not kiss Nienor.


I think that the sentence of my signature fits in perfectly in my life and my character. I never come too late. I'm always on time.

Ok, I guess the only men I think of that don't have beards are Beren...I don't know why he just doesn't...I guess Turin does to me because he seems to have way more agression in him...I guess I associate agression with being male
no offense guys!

[Finmandos12]

I never think of Turin or Tuor having a beard either.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Isn't this thread about Turin and Nienor and romances?

[Gwaimir Windgem]

It seems to have turned into bearded Elves, and then bearded Men.

But the tale of Turin and Nienor is a very tragic tale, at least one of the most tragic I've ever read. Such a sad story...

*Goes to sob in a corner*

[Lalaith]

Did Faramir had a beard?

I think so and I think I saw a picture where he has a beard.

Anyway. Generally I imagine all men beeing handsome and that means to me having no beard at all.

But the tale of Turin and Nienor is a very tragic tale, at least one of the most tragic I've ever read. Such a sad story...

One of the sadest stories I ever heard. I'm always so touched when I read from them in Tolkiens books. The fortune was not on their side at all.

[Finmandos12]

One of the sadest stories I ever heard. I'm always so touched when I read from them in Tolkiens books

When I reread the Silmarillion, I usually skip over Of Turin Turambar. It makes me so angry when I read about Turin's stupidity and faithlessness.... Yeah, I know its not all his fault, but it still makes me mad.

[Lalaith]

When I reread the Silmarillion, I usually skip over Of Turin Turambar. It makes me so angry when I read about Turin's stupidity and faithlessness.... Yeah, I know its not all his fault, but it still makes me mad.

I can understand your point of view, although I don't share it. I just love that story.
But what I really love are the Nienor parts, not so much the Túrin parts. But yeah, he has been a fortunes fool.

BTW: How often have you read the Silmarillion to talk about reread and usually.

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Finmandos12
When I reread the Silmarillion, I usually skip over Of Turin Turambar. It makes me so angry when I read about Turin's stupidity and faithlessness.... Yeah, I know its not all his fault, but it still makes me mad.

Turin's tale is also one of my less favorites. I don't think he was overly stupid or faithless, but a lot of bad events could certainly have been avoided IMO if he had been less proud or headstrong.

[Lalaith]

I believe his pride and headstrongness came from the evil spell that lay on him. But yeah, some things should not have happend, eg killing the lahme (I don't remember his name by now) man when he told him that Nienor was Túrins sister.

[Finmandos12]

BTW: How often have you read the Silmarillion to talk about reread and usually.

Seven or eight times.

I believe his pride and headstrongness came from the evil spell that lay on him.

To a certain extent. However, there were choices he could have made that would have made things better (or why would Gwindor have said, "If you don't rescue Finduilas, your fate will meet you."

[Lalaith]

or why would Gwindor have said, "If you don't rescue Finduilas, your fate will meet you."

Okay, thats a point. But he didn't do that and maybe it was his fate to kill Glaurung.

But I see I'm the only real Túrin/Nienor fan in here. But that's okay.

[Falagar]

Túrin/Nienor is one of the saddest story in the whole Silm., and I like it, but that doesn't make me like their relationship.

[Lalaith]

That's a good point of view! I like their relationship, even if they should not have one.

[Mortis]

hey Lalaith!

[Mortis]

Originally posted by Mortis
hey Lalaith!

im new at this....i dont know how all the things work on this page.....

[Falagar]

One way this page works:
When you post, it should at least have some meaning.
If it doesn't have a meaning, then at least write that it is off-topic


(and no, I don't want any comments about my posts from the rest of you! )

PS:
If I sounded a little angry in this post, it was not intentionale!

[Falagar]

Oh, and let me by the way say:
Welcome to the Entmoot! Hope you'll have lots of fun here

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Lalaith
That's a good point of view! I like their relationship, even if they should not have one.

I agree...I think it is a romantic relationship even though they are brother ans sister....at the same time I am thinking "yuck" so it is a bit confusing to me!

[Sween]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
I agree...I think it is a romantic relationship even though they are brother ans sister....at the same time I am thinking "yuck" so it is a bit confusing to me!

this is an easily misunderstood realtionship i believe what tokien was trying to convay was that love springs eternal. I mean i have a sister and god bless i do love her and turin would of loved his sister but if you wiped memory of each other that love would easily mistaken if you know what i mean?

i think they both over reacted with killing themselevs mind