About the Holy Wine Quest - Page 5

Tanoliel · 07-28-2003, 02:13 PM

Keel-hauling? That's real kind of you, Cap'n.

Please do edit, EXK...

I'll be happy to html it and stick it up on a website like I'm doing with the TLA. It might take a while, but I'll do it if yous all want.
tano

Eruviel Greenleaf · 07-29-2003, 02:58 AM

I'm posting it, remember, Tano? On a website bloggy thing. It would defeat the purpose if you did that, as nice as it would be. Thanks but...eh...

This is wierd. I'm on the phone with you now, Tano. Heh. Love the story

Elfmaster XK · 07-29-2003, 03:44 AM

Well I'll work on it in my own time for myself then.

I just tought it'd be nice to have an edited version where I can cut out all the OOC posting and make extra additions to make it flow better when a certain annyoing character bombarded our thread.

Also, I wanted to make a crew list as our crew has changed, and is getting bigger and some people need tasks. So do you think it is okay to presume certain members Lost At Sea?

Eruviel Greenleaf · 07-30-2003, 02:40 AM

No, no, editing it would be wonderful, E XK. I was thinking about Tano posting it on a website when I was talking about superfluous things. Editing would be extremely helpful, methinks. Actually, come to think of it it wouldn't be too bad to have it posted, though it seems rather redundant if I'm making a ship's log (soon's i've gotten enough sleep without having to run out of the house ten minutes before class and have to bum rides there with my friend's parent. . .)

Elfmaster XK · 07-31-2003, 04:26 AM

Aah...savvy

I was confused.

And this site is so cool.

I am making an ammended crewlist to present t'ye in the thread as Xenoia has gone off to sulk. Because I think it's about time to let Indril out of that cell. I think we can put her with another member of the crew for a bit.

Indril Anarion · 07-31-2003, 07:49 PM

Yay!!!!! Many thanks!!!!! It's no fun being all by me onesie.....thank ye!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-01-2003, 12:11 AM

Don't go sulk, Xen! We need you on the ship! I needs me first mate!

And yes, it is about time to let poor Luthien out. . .

Elfmaster XK · 08-01-2003, 03:50 AM

It's okay. Xen was just in a mood because of what the nasty faerie did to her. And now the meeting with Cap'n Obsidian. She isn't having a very good day.

And I shall let ye handle it.

Originally the Nal was a big ship. She had seven mainsails, but given our small crew I think we failed to think of the logistics of that kind of vessel, and that can be edited. We could probably just manage a ship like the Lady I reckon. That is if everyone concentracted on ship duty rather than their other duties.

And not a problem Luthien, mate.

I saw you posted quite a lot, but couldn't really do much from down there, so twas only fair to let ye out.

zavron · 08-02-2003, 04:02 PM

Okay, I'm back. Is it possible that I could continue with zavron the schitzofrenic split personality whose possesed my a cleaning Demon?

Elfmaster XK · 08-02-2003, 05:01 PM

Well, thing is the Quest is kinda goin' the way we planned it, mate. And I've just ammended the crew list for the people who post. It's on the thread. If ya'd read it.

"Amended Crew call (LAS = Lost At Sea)

Cap’n - Eruviel Greenleaf.
First Mate – Elfmaster XK (Xenoia)
Second Mate/Navigator – Eärniel
Munitions chief – Tanoliel
Galley slave (aka cook ) – Garina [LAS (cheesecake poisoning?)] Katt
Bard -Arathorn

Crewmen (women)
Roya [Boatswain]
Luthien [Seamstress]
BoP [LAS or maybe in the room??]
Thing
Sicirus
Sarin
Willow Oran
Ignatius Bob Flannery
Finrod
Zavron [Dropped overboard]
Max [Given a compass that pointed the wrong way] "

And it ain't only up ta me.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-02-2003, 05:18 PM

Zavron, you were dropped overboard. Unless you can come up with a very very good explanation of how you a. survived being dropped overside in the middle of a very cold part of the ocean, b. got to where we are now (much farther south!), and c. found us when we're In the Middle of the Ocean. A very different part of the ocean. Think tropical.

And before you may even think about joining up again, you must have your story approved by the Cap'n and the First Mate. So, can you do that? ANd by the way, the Cap'n does not allow people with such severe mental problems on her boat. I'm not trying to be discriminating, it just Isn't Practical. Besides, you aren't really schizophrenic, are you? It's not something to have fun with, or to make fun of. It's very serious, and i don't want that being made fun of in our Quest.

zavron · 08-03-2003, 04:29 AM

Hmmmm...How about a captain nemo rescue thingy, or come up with another carachter. Hmmmm...captain Nemo. How about this carachter.

Name: Captain Zav
Bio: Captain of the first underwater submarine, the 'rustyhub'. Spends his life on the RustyHub observing the strange ways of creatures under the sea. Looked on as mad by other sea captains who lived on boats, which drove him to prove his point. Got lost on her maiden voyage and has ever been trying to find land.
Description: Wears a rough, torn and dirty admiral uniform, Always carries a spanner and tool equipments strapped to his side.

What do you think? I can rub out the kinks of the carachter later.

Elfmaster XK · 08-03-2003, 01:19 PM

But this is a Pirate thread. We are all Pirates. And we already have a Captain. There certainly is only even one captain aboard a ship. That character sounds more like an explorer or scientist anyway.

zavron · 08-03-2003, 03:11 PM

As I said these kinks can be levelled. Being captain doesn't mean he's captain on your ship, certainly he'd act like everybody else. How about a plunderer. Someone who takes out ships from underneath and hides his goods at the bottom of the sea. I'm thinking of Plunderer/smuggler.

Elfmaster XK · 08-03-2003, 03:25 PM

But my point is if he is captain at all what does he want with our ship? Having a captaincy already makes him coming under someone elses command a bit...odd. Plundering in that manner is a good plan, but it makes him pretty self sufficient, he wouldn't need us.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-04-2003, 03:31 AM

...and he would also be messing the plot of the quest. I think you need to come up with something better. So sorry, Zav, but the plot is really getting going now, and we dont' want any more interruptions, so if you want to participate, we request that you come up with something that makes sense, have a logical explanation for your involvement, and does not place you in any sort of position of authority.

Also, I understand spelling and grammer does not come easily to everyone, but if you want to join, could you do us the favor of at least trying to spell correctly? It just pains me to see spelling so atrocious as yours. This is not meant as any insult to you, it just makes your posts more of a bugger to read.

***Earniel*** · 08-04-2003, 05:07 PM

message to the assembly of piratey lot of this thread:

I haven't seen Pirates of The Carribean yet. First it will only be released the 13th here. (which sucks but I can't help it) Then I will still have find somebody suitable who wants to go along and see it. Now, I have the feeling I'll be missing a lot of insiders here. So have some mercy on me and be at least a tiny weeny considerate, okay? Muchos thankos.

Elfmaster XK · 08-04-2003, 05:13 PM

Sorry Eärniel. I should've realised as it isn't out in UK until Thursday, but I managed to...acquire a copy.

We should probably vow not to mention anything in the film until you've seen it.

And welcome back, Mate! I hope your holiday was good.

Edit: And yes, I have introduced yet another character.

Alex is a freind of XK's, and so hopefully later the cap'n will let him join us as our crew is only small. I'm going to play him too, but everyone can do aswell. Is fine.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-04-2003, 10:21 PM

Sorry, mate! How inconsiderate of us! I didn't even know when it came out on your side of the Atlantic until yesterday. Oops. Assumed it was already there...heh...::meeble::

edit: oh, and the weblog is up. it's at www.xanga.com/eruviel and i called it the Entmoot Pirates for lack of a better name (we aren't all elves, i realize!) but i want to change that because i technically shouldn't be using "entmoot" for it.

***Earniel*** · 08-05-2003, 04:45 AM

Don't feel sorry guys, you can't help that Belgium always seems to limp behind when it comes to releasing films. (Thank god that LoTR is released on the same day all over the world.) But the POTC-quotes were flying around that much that I thought I'd point it out. I don't want to know to much of it before I can actually see the movie. A lot of people seem pretty excited about it.

Ah yes

holiday was very good, to bad it was just a tad too hot to be hiking 2 days along rocky mountainpaths with 9 kilo's on your back. Pure water never tasted that good. But hey I survived!

yahoo!

Ooh, pretty log Cap'tain! Perhaps you can call it 'Quest for the Holy Wine' or something if you want to change it.

07-28-2003, 02:13 PM	#81
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	Keel-hauling? That's real kind of you, Cap'n. Please do edit, EXK... I'll be happy to html it and stick it up on a website like I'm doing with the TLA. It might take a while, but I'll do it if yous all want. tano __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

07-29-2003, 02:58 AM	#82
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I'm posting it, remember, Tano? On a website bloggy thing. It would defeat the purpose if you did that, as nice as it would be. Thanks but...eh... This is wierd. I'm on the phone with you now, Tano. Heh. Love the story __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

07-29-2003, 03:44 AM	#83
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	Well I'll work on it in my own time for myself then. I just tought it'd be nice to have an edited version where I can cut out all the OOC posting and make extra additions to make it flow better when a certain annyoing character bombarded our thread. Also, I wanted to make a crew list as our crew has changed, and is getting bigger and some people need tasks. So do you think it is okay to presume certain members Lost At Sea? __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

07-30-2003, 02:40 AM	#84
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	No, no, editing it would be wonderful, E XK. I was thinking about Tano posting it on a website when I was talking about superfluous things. Editing would be extremely helpful, methinks. Actually, come to think of it it wouldn't be too bad to have it posted, though it seems rather redundant if I'm making a ship's log (soon's i've gotten enough sleep without having to run out of the house ten minutes before class and have to bum rides there with my friend's parent. . .) __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

07-31-2003, 04:26 AM	#85
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	Aah...savvy I was confused. And this site is so cool. I am making an ammended crewlist to present t'ye in the thread as Xenoia has gone off to sulk. Because I think it's about time to let Indril out of that cell. I think we can put her with another member of the crew for a bit. __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

07-31-2003, 07:49 PM	#86
Indril Anarion Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: My heart is forever in Mirkwood Posts: 429	Yay!!!!! Many thanks!!!!! It's no fun being all by me onesie.....thank ye! __________________ I'm a Jesus Freak and proud of it... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us." -Gandalf, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody tosses a Dwarf." - Gimli, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Save Ferris!!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My true Elven name is Idril Anarion, but I misspelled in the username, and now I can't fix it... Oh, well...now you know... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't be afraid of death....Be afraid of the unlived life- Tuck Everlasting

08-01-2003, 12:11 AM	#87
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Don't go sulk, Xen! We need you on the ship! I needs me first mate! And yes, it is about time to let poor Luthien out. . . __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

08-01-2003, 03:50 AM	#88
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	It's okay. Xen was just in a mood because of what the nasty faerie did to her. And now the meeting with Cap'n Obsidian. She isn't having a very good day. And I shall let ye handle it. Originally the Nal was a big ship. She had seven mainsails, but given our small crew I think we failed to think of the logistics of that kind of vessel, and that can be edited. We could probably just manage a ship like the Lady I reckon. That is if everyone concentracted on ship duty rather than their other duties. And not a problem Luthien, mate. I saw you posted quite a lot, but couldn't really do much from down there, so twas only fair to let ye out. __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

08-02-2003, 04:02 PM	#89
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	Okay, I'm back. Is it possible that I could continue with zavron the schitzofrenic split personality whose possesed my a cleaning Demon? __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-02-2003, 05:01 PM	#90
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	Well, thing is the Quest is kinda goin' the way we planned it, mate. And I've just ammended the crew list for the people who post. It's on the thread. If ya'd read it. "Amended Crew call (LAS = Lost At Sea) Cap’n - Eruviel Greenleaf. First Mate – Elfmaster XK (Xenoia) Second Mate/Navigator – Eärniel Munitions chief – Tanoliel Galley slave (aka cook ) – Garina [LAS (cheesecake poisoning?)] Katt Bard -Arathorn Crewmen (women) Roya [Boatswain] Luthien [Seamstress] BoP [LAS or maybe in the room??] Thing Sicirus Sarin Willow Oran Ignatius Bob Flannery Finrod Zavron [Dropped overboard] Max [Given a compass that pointed the wrong way] " And it ain't only up ta me. __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

08-02-2003, 05:18 PM	#91
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Zavron, you were dropped overboard. Unless you can come up with a very very good explanation of how you a. survived being dropped overside in the middle of a very cold part of the ocean, b. got to where we are now (much farther south!), and c. found us when we're In the Middle of the Ocean. A very different part of the ocean. Think tropical. And before you may even think about joining up again, you must have your story approved by the Cap'n and the First Mate. So, can you do that? ANd by the way, the Cap'n does not allow people with such severe mental problems on her boat. I'm not trying to be discriminating, it just Isn't Practical. Besides, you aren't really schizophrenic, are you? It's not something to have fun with, or to make fun of. It's very serious, and i don't want that being made fun of in our Quest. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

08-03-2003, 04:29 AM	#92
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	Hmmmm...How about a captain nemo rescue thingy, or come up with another carachter. Hmmmm...captain Nemo. How about this carachter. Name: Captain Zav Bio: Captain of the first underwater submarine, the 'rustyhub'. Spends his life on the RustyHub observing the strange ways of creatures under the sea. Looked on as mad by other sea captains who lived on boats, which drove him to prove his point. Got lost on her maiden voyage and has ever been trying to find land. Description: Wears a rough, torn and dirty admiral uniform, Always carries a spanner and tool equipments strapped to his side. What do you think? I can rub out the kinks of the carachter later. __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-03-2003, 01:19 PM	#93
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	But this is a Pirate thread. We are all Pirates. And we already have a Captain. There certainly is only even one captain aboard a ship. That character sounds more like an explorer or scientist anyway. __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

08-03-2003, 03:11 PM	#94
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	As I said these kinks can be levelled. Being captain doesn't mean he's captain on your ship, certainly he'd act like everybody else. How about a plunderer. Someone who takes out ships from underneath and hides his goods at the bottom of the sea. I'm thinking of Plunderer/smuggler. __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-03-2003, 03:25 PM	#95
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	But my point is if he is captain at all what does he want with our ship? Having a captaincy already makes him coming under someone elses command a bit...odd. Plundering in that manner is a good plan, but it makes him pretty self sufficient, he wouldn't need us. __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

08-04-2003, 03:31 AM	#96
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	...and he would also be messing the plot of the quest. I think you need to come up with something better. So sorry, Zav, but the plot is really getting going now, and we dont' want any more interruptions, so if you want to participate, we request that you come up with something that makes sense, have a logical explanation for your involvement, and does not place you in any sort of position of authority. Also, I understand spelling and grammer does not come easily to everyone, but if you want to join, could you do us the favor of at least trying to spell correctly? It just pains me to see spelling so atrocious as yours. This is not meant as any insult to you, it just makes your posts more of a bugger to read. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

08-04-2003, 05:07 PM	#97
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	message to the assembly of piratey lot of this thread: I haven't seen Pirates of The Carribean yet. First it will only be released the 13th here. (which sucks but I can't help it) Then I will still have find somebody suitable who wants to go along and see it. Now, I have the feeling I'll be missing a lot of insiders here. So have some mercy on me and be at least a tiny weeny considerate, okay? Muchos thankos. __________________ We are not things.

08-04-2003, 05:13 PM	#98
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	Sorry Eärniel. I should've realised as it isn't out in UK until Thursday, but I managed to...acquire a copy. We should probably vow not to mention anything in the film until you've seen it. And welcome back, Mate! I hope your holiday was good. Edit: And yes, I have introduced yet another character. Alex is a freind of XK's, and so hopefully later the cap'n will let him join us as our crew is only small. I'm going to play him too, but everyone can do aswell. Is fine. __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK Last edited by Elfmaster XK : 08-04-2003 at 05:18 PM.

08-04-2003, 10:21 PM	#99
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Sorry, mate! How inconsiderate of us! I didn't even know when it came out on your side of the Atlantic until yesterday. Oops. Assumed it was already there...heh...::meeble:: edit: oh, and the weblog is up. it's at www.xanga.com/eruviel and i called it the Entmoot Pirates for lack of a better name (we aren't all elves, i realize!) but i want to change that because i technically shouldn't be using "entmoot" for it. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK! Last edited by Eruviel Greenleaf : 08-04-2003 at 10:40 PM.

08-05-2003, 04:45 AM	#100
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Don't feel sorry guys, you can't help that Belgium always seems to limp behind when it comes to releasing films. (Thank god that LoTR is released on the same day all over the world.) But the POTC-quotes were flying around that much that I thought I'd point it out. I don't want to know to much of it before I can actually see the movie. A lot of people seem pretty excited about it. Ah yes holiday was very good, to bad it was just a tad too hot to be hiking 2 days along rocky mountainpaths with 9 kilo's on your back. Pure water never tasted that good. But hey I survived! yahoo! Ooh, pretty log Cap'tain! Perhaps you can call it 'Quest for the Holy Wine' or something if you want to change it. __________________ We are not things.

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