Finrod Felagund is the coolest Elven king (the one in the Silmarillion I mean) - Page 5

thingol · 09-03-2002, 05:36 AM

finrod is the coolest

Blackheart · 09-03-2002, 12:06 PM

Elves can't compete with humans for coolness anyway.

Radagast The Brown · 09-03-2002, 02:51 PM

are you mean that elves can't be more cool then men?

Beruthiel · 09-04-2002, 02:04 AM

Are Elves cooler? Bah. That's not the subject. I won't say yes or no, but hey, they do have sex less often, so you might say they're rather icy...
(Dont hit me!) Arggg....

Christiana · 09-04-2002, 07:11 PM

just cuz ur a perv,doesnt mean we are.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-04-2002, 08:12 PM

Get back on topic folks.

Christiana · 09-04-2002, 09:41 PM

right,er...Finrod,Fingolfin,Fingon and Gilgalad r all the best!

Radagast The Brown · 09-05-2002, 05:04 AM

I agree. I like them all. I just prefer Galdariel and Fingolfin. (i like finrod too, but less then them)

UnStashable · 09-05-2002, 03:33 PM

Um Im kinda going on the Silm version but to me Finrods death seemed almost well pointless isn't the word I want but I can't think of the right one. I mean if Huan and Luthien had gotten there liek an hour earlier wouldn't he have lived?

Of course if everyone else is going on a differnt version i just look like a giant jackass.

Gilrond · 09-06-2002, 01:55 PM

What about Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor?

Sure, he's not as reknowned as Finrod, but you have to admit, he's pretty cool.

After the Dagor Bragollach, when Fingolfin thought the Noldor ruined to naught, he rode "like a wind amid the dust" to Angband's gates, and there he smote his challenge, "and named Morgoth craven, and lorde of slaves."

Morgoth came, and they fought in single combat, and "many times Morgoth essayed to smite him, and each time Fingolfin leaped away, as a lightning shoots from under a dark cloud; and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds, and seven times Morgoth gave a cry of anguish, whereat the hosts of Angband fell upon their faces in dismay, and the cries echoed in the North-lands."

"But at last the King grew weary, and Morgoth bore down his shield upon him. Thrice he was crushed to his knees, and thrice rose again and bore up his broken shield and stricken helm. But the earth was all rent and pitted about him and he stumbled and fell backward before the feet of Morgoth; and Morgoth set his foot upon his neck, and the weight of it was like a fallen hill. Yet with his last and desperate stroke Fingolfin hewed the foot with Ringil, and the blood gushed forth black and smoking and filled the pits of Grond."

"Thus died Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor, most proud and valiant of the Elven-kings of old."

Maybe not the brightest choice, but certainly valiant. What do you think?

***RÃan*** · 09-06-2002, 09:27 PM

Finrod's great! Even though he knew "that the oath he had sworn was come upon him for his death", he kept his word and helped Beren.
I also like Fingolfin, though - he left Valinor even though he didn't want to go, because he loved his people and didn't want to leave them to "the rash counsels of Feanor", and also because of his words before the throne of Manwe.
(this is my first post! I've really enjoyed reading everyone's comments!

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Christiana · 09-06-2002, 09:59 PM

Welcome to the Moot!

Caleb · 09-07-2002, 01:59 PM

Fingolfin could kick Finrods butt any day of the week.

Radagast The Brown · 09-07-2002, 04:36 PM

That's why I like him more, and because, ammmm... he's very cool? I have no particular reason. (by the way, I did mentioned him)

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originally posted by RÃ*an
I also like Fingolfin, though - he left Valinor even though he didn't want to go, because he loved his people and didn't want to leave them to "the rash counsels of Feanor", and also because of his words before the throne of Manwe.

Is it a bad thing? I think it's a good thing, to be with your people when they need a leader that will consolidate them.

***RÃan*** · 09-07-2002, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Is it a bad thing? I think it's a good thing, to be with your people when they need a leader that will consolidate them.

I think it's GREAT what Fingolfin did!! He loved his people so much he was willing to leave Valinor even though he didn't want to. My wording must have been a little unclear - sorry

(p.s. - thank you all for the welcomes!)

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-07-2002, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Caleb
Fingolfin could kick Finrods butt any day of the week.

Um, sorry, but they were nephew and uncle. Why would they wish to? Anyway, I am not saying that Fingolfin wasn't a great warrior, afterall he fought Morgoth. But give credit where it's due my friend. Finrod was a great Elven king and a wonderful person besides. This isn't all about kicking butt you know?

UnStashable · 09-07-2002, 10:56 PM

To Violence, The Cause of, and solution to: All of life's problems.

Radagast The Brown · 09-08-2002, 06:50 AM

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originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Um, sorry, but they were nephew and uncle. Why would they wish to?

He meant (I think) that Fingolfin was stronger then Finrod.

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originally posted by SGH
But give credit where it's due my friend. Finrod was a great Elven king and a wonderful person besides. This isn't all about kicking butt you know?

Of course, but Fingolfin was a great elf and a great king and he was smart to, and I liked him, I don't know why...

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-08-2002, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
He meant (I think) that Fingolfin was stronger then Finrod.
Of course, but Fingolfin was a great elf and a great king and he was smart to, and I liked him, I don't know why...

True, he was, but this thread is really about Finrod, not Fingolfin. I think trying to compare Finrod and Fingolfin is just plain silly. Who is to say who is the strongest. Not every Elf fought Morgoth. we don't know how effective they would have been if they had. we only know how effective Fingolfin was. That doesn't make him the mightiest elf or the greatest IMO. It simply makes him another one of the Eldar who like Finrod were great in their own right and deeds.

Christiana · 09-08-2002, 02:43 PM

I agree.but dont forget Gil-galad ot Fingon.

09-03-2002, 12:06 PM	#82
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09-03-2002, 02:51 PM	#83
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	are you mean that elves can't be more cool then men? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

09-04-2002, 07:11 PM	#85
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	just cuz ur a perv,doesnt mean we are. __________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

09-04-2002, 09:41 PM	#87
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	right,er...Finrod,Fingolfin,Fingon and Gilgalad r all the best! __________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

09-05-2002, 05:04 AM	#88
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I agree. I like them all. I just prefer Galdariel and Fingolfin. (i like finrod too, but less then them) __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

09-03-2002, 05:36 AM	#81
thingol Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: norway,stord Posts: 30	finrod is the coolest

09-04-2002, 02:04 AM	#84
Beruthiel Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 41	Are Elves cooler? Bah. That's not the subject. I won't say yes or no, but hey, they do have sex less often, so you might say they're rather icy... (Dont hit me!) Arggg....

09-04-2002, 08:12 PM	#86
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Get back on topic folks.

09-05-2002, 03:33 PM	#89
UnStashable Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 52	Um Im kinda going on the Silm version but to me Finrods death seemed almost well pointless isn't the word I want but I can't think of the right one. I mean if Huan and Luthien had gotten there liek an hour earlier wouldn't he have lived? Of course if everyone else is going on a differnt version i just look like a giant jackass. __________________ This elevator only goes to the basement, and sombody made an awful mess down there

09-06-2002, 01:55 PM	#90
Gilrond Enting Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 52	Fingolfin What about Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor? Sure, he's not as reknowned as Finrod, but you have to admit, he's pretty cool. After the Dagor Bragollach, when Fingolfin thought the Noldor ruined to naught, he rode "like a wind amid the dust" to Angband's gates, and there he smote his challenge, "and named Morgoth craven, and lorde of slaves." Morgoth came, and they fought in single combat, and "many times Morgoth essayed to smite him, and each time Fingolfin leaped away, as a lightning shoots from under a dark cloud; and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds, and seven times Morgoth gave a cry of anguish, whereat the hosts of Angband fell upon their faces in dismay, and the cries echoed in the North-lands." "But at last the King grew weary, and Morgoth bore down his shield upon him. Thrice he was crushed to his knees, and thrice rose again and bore up his broken shield and stricken helm. But the earth was all rent and pitted about him and he stumbled and fell backward before the feet of Morgoth; and Morgoth set his foot upon his neck, and the weight of it was like a fallen hill. Yet with his last and desperate stroke Fingolfin hewed the foot with Ringil, and the blood gushed forth black and smoking and filled the pits of Grond." "Thus died Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor, most proud and valiant of the Elven-kings of old." Maybe not the brightest choice, but certainly valiant. What do you think?

09-06-2002, 09:27 PM	#91
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Finrod's great! Even though he knew "that the oath he had sworn was come upon him for his death", he kept his word and helped Beren. I also like Fingolfin, though - he left Valinor even though he didn't want to go, because he loved his people and didn't want to leave them to "the rash counsels of Feanor", and also because of his words before the throne of Manwe. (this is my first post! I've really enjoyed reading everyone's comments! ) __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

09-06-2002, 09:59 PM	#92
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	Welcome to the Moot! __________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

09-07-2002, 01:59 PM	#93
Caleb Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I'll never tell. Posts: 37	Fingolfin could kick Finrods butt any day of the week. __________________ -Caleb

09-07-2002, 10:56 PM	#97
UnStashable Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 52	To Violence, The Cause of, and solution to: All of life's problems. __________________ This elevator only goes to the basement, and sombody made an awful mess down there

09-08-2002, 02:43 PM	#100
Christiana Elf Lord Join Date: May 2002 Location: Searching desperately for a swan boat to take to Valinor Posts: 1,231	I agree.but dont forget Gil-galad ot Fingon. __________________ I take full responsibility for my actions, except for those that are somebody else's fault Having someone to blame is nearly as good as having a solution to the problem Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you habe their shoes. ~Frieda Norris

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