The word Entmoot. - Page 4

Eruviel Greenleaf · 04-20-2002, 02:46 PM

I just pronounce it like two words-ent-moot. Like Wayfarer said. I have no problem pronouncing it.

Eowyn I've always said AY-oh-wen.

Imladris · 04-20-2002, 03:04 PM

I don't understand the problem you have with a two syllable word where the last letter of the first syllable is hard and the first of the last is hard. (That doesn't make it hard) You're ment to say it like it is- ENT-MOOT. Like two words except closer together in time.

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Elf Girl · 04-20-2002, 05:11 PM

I sort of half-way leave out the T. It's hard to explain.

galadriel88 · 04-20-2002, 08:30 PM

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I also said Legolas without accenting the LEGOlas. I didn't say it like the building blocks. I guess I'm just weird.

Lego my Eggo!

I usually say it Ee - owin, Ee - omer, and Thee - oden. But ay is prolly right, oh well...

About Mordor - i usually say Mortar or something like that.

Me too, Elf Girl.

What about Galadriel? Is it GalADriel or GALadriel? I usually say the second one.

Elf Girl · 04-20-2002, 08:43 PM

I usually accent the AD.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 04-20-2002, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Elf Girl
I usually accent the AD.

So do I. And I roll the r. Sort of.

Menelvagor · 04-20-2002, 09:27 PM

I usually say EE-o-win, THEE-o-den, gal-AD-riel.

What about Legolas? I say leg-o-LAS.

Ñólendil · 04-20-2002, 10:00 PM

In "Legolas" according to Tolkien's rules the stress falls on the first syllable. If the "o" was long (ó), it would be on the second. Stress on the last syllable would be impossible according to Elvish rules.

You're right on the stress of "Galadriel". I'm not sure about Éowyn or Théoden, those are Old English.

galadriel88 · 04-20-2002, 10:08 PM

I accent the leg part, so I guess I'm right on that one. But I guess I'll have to change my pronunciation of Galadriel...oh well....

Eruviel Greenleaf · 04-20-2002, 10:14 PM

Not that we are required to pronounce things correctly.

Thanks for the information, o knowledgable one!

galadriel88 · 04-21-2002, 12:00 AM

Yes, thank you Nolendil. The info was much appreciated.

Elf Girl · 04-21-2002, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf Not that we are required to pronounce things correctly.

I know, I do my Cs properly usually, but gave up with the dh in Caradhras.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 04-21-2002, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Elf Girl

I know, I do my Cs properly usually, but gave up with the dh in Caradhras.

So have I--I never remember about that. . .

***azalea*** · 04-22-2002, 08:46 AM

That's another one that's challenging to say correctly: ka-RRRAdth-rrras?

Wayfarer · 04-23-2002, 06:43 PM

The dh is a soft th, I believe.

so Kar-ad-thras. Actually, it would be close to Car-ad-hras. It's sort of hard to spell it out.

Menelvagor · 04-23-2002, 07:07 PM

If the dh is pronounced 'th' then it wouldn't be kar-ad-thras, it'd be karathras (however the syllyble breakdown goes), wouldn't it?

Eruviel Greenleaf · 04-23-2002, 10:01 PM

Is 90 seconds up yet?

***azalea*** · 04-24-2002, 08:52 AM

I think the dh is supposed to be like a Spanish d or something, where the d is pronounced just slightly, the tongue barely touching the teeth, so the closest thing we'd have in English is a th sound, but it wouldn't be quite that "pronounced" a "th".

Beleg Strongbow · 04-24-2002, 11:51 AM

I had to change my pronunciation of "Cirdan."
I was saying it "sir-dan"
Who would have thought that it should be said "ki-er-dan"?

Helix · 04-24-2002, 11:59 AM

Yeah, like pal-in-tire and ke-le-born. kind of a wierd way to spell them.

04-20-2002, 02:46 PM	#61
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I just pronounce it like two words-ent-moot. Like Wayfarer said. I have no problem pronouncing it. Eowyn I've always said AY-oh-wen. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

04-20-2002, 03:04 PM	#62
Imladris Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 146	I don't understand the problem you have with a two syllable word where the last letter of the first syllable is hard and the first of the last is hard. (That doesn't make it hard) You're ment to say it like it is- ENT-MOOT. Like two words except closer together in time. . __________________ "A truth that's told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent."

04-20-2002, 05:11 PM	#63
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I sort of half-way leave out the T. It's hard to explain. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-20-2002, 08:43 PM	#65
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I usually accent the AD. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-20-2002, 10:00 PM	#68
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	In "Legolas" according to Tolkien's rules the stress falls on the first syllable. If the "o" was long (ó), it would be on the second. Stress on the last syllable would be impossible according to Elvish rules. You're right on the stress of "Galadriel". I'm not sure about Éowyn or Théoden, those are Old English. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

04-20-2002, 09:27 PM	#67
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	I usually say EE-o-win, THEE-o-den, gal-AD-riel. What about Legolas? I say leg-o-LAS.

04-20-2002, 10:08 PM	#69
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	I accent the leg part, so I guess I'm right on that one. But I guess I'll have to change my pronunciation of Galadriel...oh well.... __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come." Last edited by galadriel88 : 04-20-2002 at 10:10 PM.

04-20-2002, 10:14 PM	#70
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Not that we are required to pronounce things correctly. Thanks for the information, o knowledgable one! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

04-21-2002, 12:00 AM	#71
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Yes, thank you Nolendil. The info was much appreciated. __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

04-22-2002, 08:46 AM	#74
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	That's another one that's challenging to say correctly: ka-RRRAdth-rrras?

04-23-2002, 06:43 PM	#75
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	The dh is a soft th, I believe. so Kar-ad-thras. Actually, it would be close to Car-ad-hras. It's sort of hard to spell it out. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-23-2002, 07:07 PM	#76
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	If the dh is pronounced 'th' then it wouldn't be kar-ad-thras, it'd be karathras (however the syllyble breakdown goes), wouldn't it?

04-23-2002, 10:01 PM	#77
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Is 90 seconds up yet? __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

04-24-2002, 08:52 AM	#78
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I think the dh is supposed to be like a Spanish d or something, where the d is pronounced just slightly, the tongue barely touching the teeth, so the closest thing we'd have in English is a th sound, but it wouldn't be quite that "pronounced" a "th".

04-24-2002, 11:51 AM	#79
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	I had to change my pronunciation of "Cirdan." I was saying it "sir-dan" Who would have thought that it should be said "ki-er-dan"? __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

04-24-2002, 11:59 AM	#80
Helix Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: School! Posts: 107	Yeah, like pal-in-tire and ke-le-born. kind of a wierd way to spell them. __________________ Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. -Elvish Greeting

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