The Hobbit movie will happen! - Page 4

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-20-2006, 04:09 PM

I'm hardly doing that, Hector dear. In fact, I believe I've said before that I'm not too enthused about his Gandalf. It is, however, decent, and the continuity would be worth keeping the old Gandalf. If we got a new one, we would have no guarantee that he was any better than Sir Ian McKellen.

So why do you want to drop Ian Holm?

hectorberlioz · 01-16-2007, 11:39 AM

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hectorberlioz · 01-17-2007, 11:33 AM

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Gwaimir Windgem · 01-18-2007, 12:54 AM

Makeup can do amazing things, my dear.

Finrod Felagund · 01-19-2007, 02:35 AM

I'm afraid I disagree mostly on you Ian Mckellen count...I though he was great as Gandalf the Grey (the white had its issues)

Lotesse · 01-19-2007, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by captain carrot

So, so true of the commercial production industry, esp in distribution terms.

But there ya goes ...

but art need not be unenjoyable - nor sustainable - else it is held to ridicule as elitist and the kind of thing Ghandi would die rather than defend ...

neither, indeed, need it be obscure to the point that it is hateful.

But the Buck rules the muse to a degree that has become well beyond the (sadly) expected pale.

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Originally Posted by Jealous Hector

Are you reading from a book?

No, silly goos he never "reads from a book," BB has got one of those very rare gifts one has to be born having, he's an artist. You can't create an artist, or turn yourself into one if you've not been born to that manner. He's gifted; jealous a little perhaps?

Or, maybe you really were complimenting BB in a sort of politically cunning back-handed way... One never knows, with these ego-centric composer/politician types, hee hee -

Gandalf is Ian McKellan, no doubt about it. Of all the other characters they can change actors about when it comes to The Hobbit movie, McKellan will be the one and only one that'll be best not changed, or the whole thing'll fall hollow, I say. Ian is the genuis glue that holds the film interpretation so beautifully together. I doubt it'll end up happening, but wouldn't it be so, so cool? McKellan IS Gandalf. Period. White, Grey, you name it.Bar absolutely none.

hectorberlioz · 01-19-2007, 10:46 AM

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rohirrim TR · 01-23-2007, 12:03 PM

Yeah I watched EE the other day and in ROTK you could almost have the movie without him, he doesn't do anything and they basically make him a wimp. Not to mention how when he rescues Faramir's men Pippin is riding in front of him...that always grates on my nerves for some reason. ...m'yeah he's kinda pathetic in RoTK EE.

The Gaffer · 01-23-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

Not to mention how when he rescues Faramir's men Pippin is riding in front of him.

Never noticed that. Gag!

How's it going to look him hiding from orcs up a tree?

hectorberlioz · 01-23-2007, 12:40 PM

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tolkienfan · 01-23-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rohirrim TR

Yeah I watched EE the other day and in ROTK you could almost have the movie without him, he doesn't do anything and they basically make him a wimp. Not to mention how when he rescues Faramir's men Pippin is riding in front of him...that always grates on my nerves for some reason. ...m'yeah he's kinda pathetic in RoTK EE.

Well, I think he is still important to the movie, he still does a lot. (but not as much, he could do more) As for Pippin, that part annoys me to no end! I always notice that.

Do you think it was a mistake?

hectorberlioz · 01-23-2007, 04:34 PM

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rohirrim TR · 01-23-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tolkienfan

Well, I think he is still important to the movie, he still does a lot. (but not as much, he could do more) As for Pippin, that part annoys me to no end! I always notice that.

Do you think it was a mistake?

It wasn't really a mistake...more of a continuity error cause Gandalf & Pippin we're going to arrive at the same time as Faramir was evacuating, but the time line didn't work and they we're too lazy to shoot any kind of pick-up, and I guess they couldn't (or didn't want to spend money trying) erase pippin from the shots.

Rána Eressëa · 01-28-2007, 07:35 AM

It just won't be the same without PJ, but I'm sure most of us will go see it anyway.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-28-2007, 10:36 PM

Anyway, or with all the more reason? (HINT: The latter answer is correct.

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hectorberlioz · 01-31-2007, 12:15 PM

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inked · 01-31-2007, 12:44 PM

NEWS ABOUT alleged "hobbits"!

The old thread ( http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.ph...hobbit+species) on this is closed (and I can't find the alleged thread on GM, apologies to SGH), but I thought ya'll might be interested in the ongoing debate about H. floresiensis...

see here : http://www.livescience.com/humanbiol...microceph.html

"New computerized casts of abnormally small Homo sapiens brains are reigniting the debate over the skeletal remains nicknamed "The Hobbit." "

Now HB, what if they were to find a H. gandalfiensis who matched Ian Mc.?

hectorberlioz · 01-31-2007, 01:36 PM

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Jon S. · 02-05-2007, 09:52 PM

Saying McClellan must always play Gandalf because you liked him in the LOTR and got used to him is like saying you have to marry the first girl you #$&%ed because it was good and that's also the only experience you have.

Sir Ian was fine in LOTR but he ain't the only good actor in town.

hectorberlioz · 02-06-2007, 11:49 AM

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12-20-2006, 04:09 PM	#61
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I'm hardly doing that, Hector dear. In fact, I believe I've said before that I'm not too enthused about his Gandalf. It is, however, decent, and the continuity would be worth keeping the old Gandalf. If we got a new one, we would have no guarantee that he was any better than Sir Ian McKellen. So why do you want to drop Ian Holm? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-16-2007, 11:39 AM	#62
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01-17-2007, 11:33 AM	#63
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01-18-2007, 12:54 AM	#64
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Makeup can do amazing things, my dear. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-19-2007, 02:35 AM	#65
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	I'm afraid I disagree mostly on you Ian Mckellen count...I though he was great as Gandalf the Grey (the white had its issues) __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

01-19-2007, 10:46 AM	#67
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01-28-2007, 07:35 AM	#74
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	It just won't be the same without PJ, but I'm sure most of us will go see it anyway.

01-28-2007, 10:36 PM	#75
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Anyway, or with all the more reason? (HINT: The latter answer is correct. ) __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-31-2007, 12:15 PM	#76
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	[deleted] __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide Last edited by hectorberlioz : 08-16-2007 at 06:05 PM.

01-31-2007, 12:44 PM	#77
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	NEWS ABOUT alleged "hobbits"! The old thread ( http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.ph...hobbit+species) on this is closed (and I can't find the alleged thread on GM, apologies to SGH), but I thought ya'll might be interested in the ongoing debate about H. floresiensis... see here : http://www.livescience.com/humanbiol...microceph.html "New computerized casts of abnormally small Homo sapiens brains are reigniting the debate over the skeletal remains nicknamed "The Hobbit." " Now HB, what if they were to find a H. gandalfiensis who matched Ian Mc.? __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

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02-05-2007, 09:52 PM	#79
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	Saying McClellan must always play Gandalf because you liked him in the LOTR and got used to him is like saying you have to marry the first girl you #$&%ed because it was good and that's also the only experience you have. Sir Ian was fine in LOTR but he ain't the only good actor in town.

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