What is the silmarillion?

[Valandil]

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

THAT was the Bens, the other was the Ephs.

Yes - I checked soon after I posted that, but couldn't get back on until now. That's right - your's was the one with the Ephraimites - from chapter 12 and the troubled times of Jephthah. Mine was later - when things had gone even further downhill.

[me9996]

Originally Posted by Lenya

d'you mean you got Silm? If so, that's great! It's by far the best book Tolkein has ever written

Yes, I gess now this is a place to say how to get the "Slim" as some call it.

[Elemmírë]

The "Slim"? I've heard Sil and Silm...

I guess we're all just lazy!

[me9996]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

The "Slim"? I've heard Sil and Silm...

I guess we're all just lazy!

Yup

The slims fill name is hard to spell!

[Elemmírë]

Not if you're Quenya obsessed...

I'd tell you how I remember, but I don't think it would make much sense...

Can you remember Silmaril itself?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

well, I call it 'Ainulandalie' 'Valaquenta' 'Quenta Silmarrillion' 'Akhallabeth' & 'Of the Rings of Power & The Third Age', not plain old Silmarillion

[Elemmírë]

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

well, I call it 'Ainulandalie' 'Valaquenta' 'Quenta Silmarrillion' 'Akhallabeth' & 'Of the Rings of Power & The Third Age', not plain old Silmarillion

Don't you mean "Of teh Rinsg of Powre & hte Tihrd Age?

You spelt almost everything else wrong!

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Don't you mean "Of teh Rinsg of Powre & hte Tihrd Age?

You spelt almost everything else wrong!

hey, not my fault, i am a terrible speller and typist!!

[Pytt]

and besides, who walks around and knows all those names? I don't even know which is which.

[ItalianLegolas]

I forgive you

[Elemmírë]

Originally Posted by Pytt

and besides, who walks around and knows all those names? I don't even know which is which.

And with the name Ingoldo! The Wise!

[Pytt]

Hey, even though I'm pretty wise I don't have to remember all those names, and ceartainly not how to spell them

[me9996]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Not if you're Quenya obsessed...

I'd tell you how I remember, but I don't think it would make much sense...

Can you remember Silmaril itself?

Nope

P.S.
The 90 second rule is annoying!

[Elemmírë]

Originally Posted by Pytt

Pytt Hey, even though I'm pretty wise I don't have to remember all those names, and ceartainly not how to spell them

Yes, milord.

Originally Posted by me9996

Nope

P.S.
The 90 second rule is annoying!

Don't I know it.

Alright. Spontaneous Elvish lesson:

From... you guessed it, the Silmarillion:

Sil means "to shine"

Silima is what Fëanor called the substance he used to make the Silmarilli. I suppose it's fairly normal that the second I would get dropped.

Ril means "brilliance"

So, you've got "Silmaril". Now, repeat it every day for a month, and you'll figure out how to say it. Or read the book... by the time you're done, once again, you'll know how to say it.

The name "Silmarillion" itself comes from the fact that the full name for Silmaril is Silmarillë. Plural in Quenya is Silmarilli. Add -on- as a genitive plural suffix. Basically makes the word mean "of the Silmarils" Silmarillion.

Add "Quenta" to the beginning, and you've got "History of the Silmarils" or some such thing.

Did I lose you?

[me9996]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Yes, milord.



Don't I know it.

Alright. Spontaneous Elvish lesson:

From... you guessed it, the Silmarillion:

Sil means "to shine"

Silima is what Fëanor called the substance he used to make the Silmarilli. I suppose it's fairly normal that the second I would get dropped.

Ril means "brilliance"

So, you've got "Silmaril". Now, repeat it every day for a month, and you'll figure out how to say it. Or read the book... by the time you're done, once again, you'll know how to say it.

The name "Silmarillion" itself comes from the fact that the full name for Silmaril is Silmarillë. Plural in Quenya is Silmarilli. Add -on- as a genitive plural suffix. Basically makes the word mean "of the Silmarils" Silmarillion.

Add "Quenta" to the beginning, and you've got "History of the Silmarils" or some such thing.

Did I lose you?

Silmaril

Silmaril

Silmaril

Silmaril

Silmaril

Silmaril

Silmaril

No, I can't do it, I was useing copy and paste!

[Elemmírë]

Well, try it without cut and paste!

How about, "sil" and "ril" rhyme. So all you've got between is "ma".

Sil-ma-ril.
Sil-ma-ril.

[me9996]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Well, try it without cut and paste!

How about, "sil" and "ril" rhyme. So all you've got between is "ma".

Sil-ma-ril.
Sil-ma-ril.

Sil-ma-ril
silymerol
sigmomril
silmaril
slimaril

That good?

[Elemmírë]

Originally Posted by me9996

Sil-ma-ril
silymerol
sigmomril
silmaril
slimaril

That good?

You're just teasing me about my favourite book now.

Hey? Can anyone tell me why Ancalagon the Black is called that? It seems kind of... paradoxical to me.

[me9996]

Originally Posted by Elemmire

You're just teasing me about my favourite book now.

Hey? Can anyone tell me why Ancalagon the Black is called that? It seems kind of... paradoxical to me.

Ditto, I think it has something to do with the fact that he never saw the sun.

[Elemmírë]

No, no, no.

What I mean is the name strikes me as odd. It reminds me of Ancalima, which means "exceedingly bright" and the second half of Turgon and Fingon, which is a ridiculously meaningless version of "cáno" for "commander" or something of the sort.

So... Ancalagon the Black.

Who would call a black dragon "exceedingly bright"?