Would a Dwarf have been better as the Ring bearer? - Page 4

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-08-2004, 01:36 PM

And can you imagine a dwarf having to resist the temptation of all those orcs in Mordor.

***Valandil*** · 09-08-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

And can you imagine a dwarf having to resist the temptation of all those orcs in Mordor.

*hadn't realized that dwarves were attracted to orcs*

***Earniel*** · 09-08-2004, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Valandil

*hadn't realized that dwarves were attracted to orcs*

*takes a few moments to let this sink in*

Valandil! You're doing it again!

*goes off in search for mind bleach*

Attalus · 09-08-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Valandil

*hadn't realized that dwarves were attracted to orcs*

LOL, after those bearded Dwarven women, even a female Orc might look good.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-08-2004, 03:06 PM

Do they exist?
'imagines an orc in a dress with lipstick and make up on!'

***Valandil*** · 09-08-2004, 03:21 PM

Orc women were actually VEEEerrry beautiful! It's just that once they got their hooks in a fella, they turned out to be incessant with their badgering, nagging, controlling and manipulating!

That's why all those Orcs would go out and do ANYTHING as an excuse to stay away from home!

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-08-2004, 04:37 PM

Where would they go on evenings out. A romantic eye lit dinner in Barad-dur?

BeardofPants · 09-08-2004, 05:11 PM

actually, that's not a bad idea... there's some nice secluded lil' craters and gorse bushes for some ... erm.... lovin'.

Attalus · 09-08-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BeardofPants

actually, that's not a bad idea... there's some nice secluded lil' craters and gorse bushes for some ... erm.... lovin'.

Somehow the idea of Orcs and love, or even "lovin'" seem mutually exclusive.

**Nurvingiel** · 09-13-2004, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

And can you imagine a dwarf having to resist the temptation of all those orcs in Mordor.

So many orc necks, so little time...

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-13-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

So many orc necks, so little time...

Ah, someone finally understands!

Pytt · 09-14-2004, 03:04 PM

no, a dwarf would no better then a hobbit. i think they would be more attracted of the ring, since they once had got their own high rings.
and they would tray to slay their way to mount doom instead of sneaking in the dark.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-14-2004, 03:34 PM

I suppose in Cirith Ungol it would sound more like an army than a dwarf.

ItalianLegolas · 12-11-2004, 10:18 PM

yes, possibly a dwarf would have been a better ring-bearer in the way that they are a very stubborn race, but they are also a little bit rash with their thinking and never seem to think around things (such as collasal(sp) battles) as much as rush head-on in to them with axes in hand

**Nurvingiel** · 12-17-2004, 06:03 AM

If it came to Gimli to complete the Quest, I think he would be strategic about his approach. He knew from Elrond that stealth is the necessity. However, Dwarves really have a weak point for treasure, and I think the Ring would exploit that unbelieveably well.

Giving a Dwarf visions of endless treasure, hundreds of forges at his service, beautifully worked caves, etc. is much more likely to be successful than giving a Hobbit visions of a Middle-earth-wide garden. Sam's chief desire was to be home safe with his own bit of garden - not a lot of exploitable material in that.

Olmer · 12-19-2004, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Attalus

Somehow the idea of Orcs and love, or even "lovin'" seem mutually exclusive.

On contrary. Since their ancestors were creature of romantic nature, the passion did not die out in the depth of rough and resillient orc's heart and on scarce occasions it was breaking through like a ray of sun into the gloomy depth of Moria.

Orc's courting

Ephel Duath · 12-22-2004, 12:10 AM

Hmm... A dwarf being the ringbearer... Interesting thought. I think there are some pros and cons. Dwarves are stubborn and don't give up, which would be helpful. However, they are quite greedy and have a love of precious things such as gold, jewels, mithril, etc. Probably, it would be safer to keep the Ring away from dwarves in the long run.

me9996 · 01-02-2005, 12:50 PM

Remember what gimli did at the councle?
And the dwarf rings have all been captured or eaten (Dragons

).
So I don't think a dwarf would make a good ring-bearer.

(Nether would an elf!)

me9996 · 01-02-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ephel Duath

Hmm... A dwarf being the ringbearer... Interesting thought. I think there are some pros and cons. Dwarves are stubborn and don't give up, which would be helpful. However, they are quite greedy and have a love of precious things such as gold, jewels, mithril, etc. Probably, it would be safer to keep the Ring away from dwarves in the long run.

"Precious" do you know who you sound like?
-Gandalf the gray

Still no dwarfs!

me9996 · 01-02-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Valandil

*hadn't realized that dwarves were attracted to orcs*

I know!!!

09-08-2004, 01:36 PM	#61
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	And can you imagine a dwarf having to resist the temptation of all those orcs in Mordor. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-08-2004, 03:06 PM	#65
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Do they exist? 'imagines an orc in a dress with lipstick and make up on!' __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-08-2004, 03:21 PM	#66
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Orc women were actually VEEEerrry beautiful! It's just that once they got their hooks in a fella, they turned out to be incessant with their badgering, nagging, controlling and manipulating! That's why all those Orcs would go out and do ANYTHING as an excuse to stay away from home! __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

09-08-2004, 04:37 PM	#67
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Where would they go on evenings out. A romantic eye lit dinner in Barad-dur? __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-08-2004, 05:11 PM	#68
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	actually, that's not a bad idea... there's some nice secluded lil' craters and gorse bushes for some ... erm.... lovin'. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

09-14-2004, 03:04 PM	#72
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	no, a dwarf would no better then a hobbit. i think they would be more attracted of the ring, since they once had got their own high rings. and they would tray to slay their way to mount doom instead of sneaking in the dark. __________________ Don't Panic!

09-14-2004, 03:34 PM	#73
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I suppose in Cirith Ungol it would sound more like an army than a dwarf. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

12-11-2004, 10:18 PM	#74
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	yes, possibly a dwarf would have been a better ring-bearer in the way that they are a very stubborn race, but they are also a little bit rash with their thinking and never seem to think around things (such as collasal(sp) battles) as much as rush head-on in to them with axes in hand __________________ What was lost is now found.

12-22-2004, 12:10 AM	#77
Ephel Duath Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fangorn Posts: 21	Hmm... A dwarf being the ringbearer... Interesting thought. I think there are some pros and cons. Dwarves are stubborn and don't give up, which would be helpful. However, they are quite greedy and have a love of precious things such as gold, jewels, mithril, etc. Probably, it would be safer to keep the Ring away from dwarves in the long run.

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