07-10-2004, 01:44 PM | #61 | |
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Gandalf was the prime mover in the quest to rid Middle-earth of the Ring, and was willing to die (at the Bridge of Khazad-Dum) to fulfill it. Galadriel did have to overcome the temptations of the Ring, which she rather mockingly, it seems to me, details to Frodo and Sam; but she does everything in her power, including clothing the Fellowship in the garb of the Galadrim and giving Aragorn the famous and powerful Elessar, to make the quest succeed. She does realise that there was a very good chance, as actually happened, that the Three would fail, and that Lorien would be no more the enchanted place that she loved, but she deliberately took the chance. As for her "manipulations," she called the White Council, and wanted Gandalf to be its head, for even then she mistrusted Saruman. She always was able to read motivations of people, even cloaked Maiar, and trusted Gandalf but not Saruman. Can you say she was wrong?
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07-13-2004, 08:11 PM | #62 |
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Yes, but I kinda disagree. Galadriel was wistful about the passing of her realm, but didn't she want to go back to Valinor? I mean, she didn't just have a ticket back, but I feel like she a least had a clue she could go back.
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07-13-2004, 08:12 PM | #63 |
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After the destruction of the ring, I mean.
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08-13-2004, 03:53 AM | #66 |
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Yet Galadriel was rewarded for rejecting the Ring. She was previouslt banned from sail to the Undying Lands but after rejecting the Ring her ban was lifted and she was able to sail.
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08-13-2004, 04:25 AM | #67 |
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I don't know if there are any Letters that bear on this, but IIRC, Unfinished Tales is a bit vague about whether her ban was self-imposed or not. She certainly rejected the invitation at the end of the First Age.
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From Unfinished Tales, Houghton Mifflin edition, 1980
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There are several accounts on the history of Galadriel, some of them are contradictory. In 'The Road Goes Ever On' it is said:
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However, Tolkien changed his mind about Galadriel during his lifetime, his last ideas of her story was that she was 'unstained', but got caught up in the ban against the Exiles only by bad luck, and therefore was allowed to return at the end of the first age. But then she refused out of pride.
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