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Bombadillo · 04-21-2003, 03:58 PM

As a general rule of thumb, Iron Maiden is metal. I don't know if you've heard of them gimli70andwhatnot, but that's what metal sounds like. They don't sound like punk. And Ozzy, although good, is extremely far from the heaviest of his time. The 'heaviest metal' would be something like Norweigan black metal. (Yup, the first metal was in Norway. I don't remember Korn in Norway either)

gimli7410 · 04-21-2003, 04:05 PM

yea i know norwegian death metal is heavy so heavy metal has to be but it was iron maiden and ozzy who made metal what it was today. over here at least.

Lizra · 04-22-2003, 02:55 PM

I was perusing all things T Rex on ebay, and came across the name of the bongo player I had the crush on.....Steve Peregrine Took.. Ackk!

Looks like they played a gig at the "Middle Earth" club in 1967!

BeardofPants · 04-22-2003, 03:31 PM

Gimli, there are a lot of people who claim to be the forefather of metal. Some have attributed it to Led Zep as well. And Paul McCartney claims that Ticket To Ride also started the ball rolling - it was quite heavy for the time (but yeah, don't see it myself.)

Anglorfin · 04-23-2003, 02:30 AM

I'd say it was the earlier bands that we now associate more with "classic rock". The main one being Black Sabbath.

Bombadillo · 04-23-2003, 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
yea i know norwegian death metal is heavy so heavy metal has to be but it was iron maiden and ozzy who made metal what it was today. over here at least.

Ah, now I see what you mean. I agree.

Lady Tinuveil · 04-23-2003, 05:38 AM

Go to floatermusic.com if your interested.
Everyone from oregon likes rock music, a lot of us like floater.
Ive never seen them live but all of they're albums are good.

Linaewen · 04-24-2003, 07:03 AM

My playlist has all R&B/Hip Hop. I also like Rock, though. (Love Red Hot Chilli Peppers etc)

Insidious Rex · 04-24-2003, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Gimli, there are a lot of people who claim to be the forefather of metal. Some have attributed it to Led Zep as well. And Paul McCartney claims that Ticket To Ride also started the ball rolling - it was quite heavy for the time (but yeah, don't see it myself.)

Paul McCartney? Thats a joke. But yes I think Zeppelin did more for the genesis of true heavy metal then any other band. They have been sited by all the classic metal bands anyway and what better source is there then that. They were the first to use the lead male vocal on the highest screaming alto range and actually have it be a masculine thing and not gay sounding. That became a halmark of early metal and later metal. In fact once at a concert in Florida Jimmy Paige said that he was doing a guitar solo in Babe I'm Gonna Leave You and there were these long haired kids right at the base of the stage just banging their heads right up against the front of the stage with the beat. He was amazed. The very first head bangers.... Course Plant and Page themselves didnt think much of this part of their legacy. They thought that most metal from the late 70s and 80s was crap.

gimli7410 · 04-24-2003, 09:22 PM

yea led zep contributed alot to metal. dont really like him though, i only like stairway to heaven

Insidious Rex · 04-25-2003, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
yea led zep contributed alot to metal. dont really like him though, i only like stairway to heaven

to each their own. and to others the bone..... as they say....

Comic Book Guy · 04-25-2003, 06:00 PM

Zeppelin is a they, not a him.

I personally believe Black Sabbath were the more influencial and the first true metal band, their sound is more characteristic of everything Metal is really (Guitar detuned, lyrics about negative social and political issues plus the occasional occult topic, several disorted blues riffs in one song with a solo inbetween, and so on)

You're spot on about the high-pitched singing, theres also the Mythological and fantasical lyrics, plus John Bonhams influence is rather evident. More pounding.

I hate that nu-metal crap, it's pop music, an insult to true metal.

Manowar fans! I thought I was the only one!

Anglorfin · 04-25-2003, 06:14 PM

MANOWAR, although extremely corny, I just can't help but love them.

Coney · 04-25-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Insidious Rex
Paul McCartney? Thats a joke. But yes I think Zeppelin did more for the genesis of true heavy metal then any other band. They have been sited by all the classic metal bands anyway and what better source is there then that. They were the first to use the lead male vocal on the highest screaming alto range and actually have it be a masculine thing and not gay sounding. That became a halmark of early metal and later metal. In fact once at a concert in Florida Jimmy Paige said that he was doing a guitar solo in Babe I'm Gonna Leave You and there were these long haired kids right at the base of the stage just banging their heads right up against the front of the stage with the beat. He was amazed. The very first head bangers.... Course Plant and Page themselves didnt think much of this part of their legacy. They thought that most metal from the late 70s and 80s was crap.

Hmm, if I remember rightly, in Hammer of the Gods - A Led Zeppelin Biography, it states that Led Zep were indeed the first banned to be dubbed as playing Heavy Metal (in some American music publication) but Jimmy Page abhorred the idea, as far as he was concerned he was playing his own version of Rock/Heavy Blues.

So I guess officially (as in public use of the term) they were the first Heavy Metal band.........it's just that Led Zep didn't think they were

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I personally believe Black Sabbath were the more influencial and the first true metal band, their sound is more characteristic of everything Metal is really

Gotta agree with ya there CBG........the phrase may have existed previously.........but Black Sabbath certainly adopted it and made it their genre.....

Ninquelote · 04-25-2003, 08:29 PM

i consider myself both punk and anti-music.

The White Stripes
The Sex Pistols
The Distllers

Along with a bit from...

The Seatbelts
Green Day

Insidious Rex · 04-25-2003, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Coney
Hmm, if I remember rightly, in Hammer of the Gods - A Led Zeppelin Biography, it states that Led Zep were indeed the first banned to be dubbed as playing Heavy Metal (in some American music publication) but Jimmy Page abhorred the idea, as far as he was concerned he was playing his own version of Rock/Heavy Blues.

So I guess officially (as in public use of the term) they were the first Heavy Metal band.........it's just that Led Zep didn't think they were

Gotta agree with ya there CBG........the phrase may have existed previously.........but Black Sabbath certainly adopted it and made it their genre.....

Yes I agree with all of this. Zep was a hard rock blues band basically. Thats what Page and Plant would tell you. They came out of the english blues revival of 60s and succeeded in creating their own distinctive mesh of blues and hard rock licks and heavy drum beats and epic complex writing and sound weaving that then went on to define movements like metal and hard rock. I mean without Zeppelin you never really wouldnt have had groups like Aerosmith, ACDC, Deep Purple, Van Halen, Metallica, Guns & Roses, and all the horrid crappy perfume metal bands of the 80s (much to Page's chagrin). Zeppelin paved the way for all that.

Yes Ozzy was the first to really be recognized as "heavy metal" but Zeppelin, as you said, brought the term out.

Lady Tinuveil · 04-29-2003, 01:45 AM

Did anyone see The White Stripes on Conan o'Brien last week?
I believe they preformed 5 new songs.

Bombadillo · 04-29-2003, 01:48 AM

Yeah I did, kinda weird cause I haven't seen Conan in a while. Actually before then I hadn't heard of White Stripes, but I didn't really like them at all anyway.

Lady Tinuveil · 04-29-2003, 02:11 AM

Did you see all 5 shows?
I saw the first 2, they wernt that good. He's really good with his guitar.

Anglorfin · 05-02-2003, 12:26 AM

Ahhhhhhhh, Heavy Metal. Started by Black Sabbath, perfected by Iron Maiden . . .

Speaking of Iron Maiden, who else is going to see them in their US tour?

04-21-2003, 03:58 PM	#61
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	As a general rule of thumb, Iron Maiden is metal. I don't know if you've heard of them gimli70andwhatnot, but that's what metal sounds like. They don't sound like punk. And Ozzy, although good, is extremely far from the heaviest of his time. The 'heaviest metal' would be something like Norweigan black metal. (Yup, the first metal was in Norway. I don't remember Korn in Norway either) __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

04-21-2003, 04:05 PM	#62
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	yea i know norwegian death metal is heavy so heavy metal has to be but it was iron maiden and ozzy who made metal what it was today. over here at least. __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

04-22-2003, 02:55 PM	#63
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I was perusing all things T Rex on ebay, and came across the name of the bongo player I had the crush on.....Steve Peregrine Took.. Ackk! Looks like they played a gig at the "Middle Earth" club in 1967! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats! Last edited by Lizra : 04-22-2003 at 03:13 PM.

04-22-2003, 03:31 PM	#64
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Gimli, there are a lot of people who claim to be the forefather of metal. Some have attributed it to Led Zep as well. And Paul McCartney claims that Ticket To Ride also started the ball rolling - it was quite heavy for the time (but yeah, don't see it myself.) __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

04-23-2003, 02:30 AM	#65
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	I'd say it was the earlier bands that we now associate more with "classic rock". The main one being Black Sabbath. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

04-23-2003, 05:38 AM	#67
Lady Tinuveil Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oregon Hills Posts: 257	~ Go to floatermusic.com if your interested. Everyone from oregon likes rock music, a lot of us like floater. Ive never seen them live but all of they're albums are good.

04-24-2003, 07:03 AM	#68
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	My playlist has all R&B/Hip Hop. I also like Rock, though. (Love Red Hot Chilli Peppers etc)

04-24-2003, 09:22 PM	#70
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	yea led zep contributed alot to metal. dont really like him though, i only like stairway to heaven __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

04-25-2003, 06:00 PM	#72
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Zeppelin is a they, not a him. I personally believe Black Sabbath were the more influencial and the first true metal band, their sound is more characteristic of everything Metal is really (Guitar detuned, lyrics about negative social and political issues plus the occasional occult topic, several disorted blues riffs in one song with a solo inbetween, and so on) You're spot on about the high-pitched singing, theres also the Mythological and fantasical lyrics, plus John Bonhams influence is rather evident. More pounding. I hate that nu-metal crap, it's pop music, an insult to true metal. Manowar fans! I thought I was the only one!

04-25-2003, 06:14 PM	#73
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	MANOWAR, although extremely corny, I just can't help but love them. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

04-25-2003, 08:29 PM	#75
Ninquelote Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here. For the time being. Posts: 336	i consider myself both punk and anti-music. The White Stripes The Sex Pistols The Distllers Along with a bit from... The Seatbelts Green Day __________________ XIAN- for hating Wiccans. MURDERER- for hating vegetarians. PREP- for hating Goths. These are a few of my favourite things, the hypocritical stylings of the most "liberal" groups.

04-29-2003, 01:45 AM	#77
Lady Tinuveil Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oregon Hills Posts: 257	~ Did anyone see The White Stripes on Conan o'Brien last week? I believe they preformed 5 new songs.

04-29-2003, 01:48 AM	#78
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	Yeah I did, kinda weird cause I haven't seen Conan in a while. Actually before then I hadn't heard of White Stripes, but I didn't really like them at all anyway. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

04-29-2003, 02:11 AM	#79
Lady Tinuveil Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oregon Hills Posts: 257	~ Did you see all 5 shows? I saw the first 2, they wernt that good. He's really good with his guitar.

05-02-2003, 12:26 AM	#80
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	Ahhhhhhhh, Heavy Metal. Started by Black Sabbath, perfected by Iron Maiden . . . Speaking of Iron Maiden, who else is going to see them in their US tour? __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

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