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Old 05-12-2010, 10:22 AM   #61
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This book (UT) is SO good, once you get past the never-ending Narn i hin Hurin.
Never-ending indeed. Read The Children of Hurin instead - just as depressing, but read as a narrative it's still better than the UT version (with all its interruptions). I always skip the Narn when I read anything in UT, but I read CoH and enjoyed the story (apart from the depression).
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Yeah, Val, I thought you'd get most of the more difficult parts of that one. It comes from the chapter you're going to discuss in the UT. All is now correct (including the speaker) except for the spelling of the two names in the first line (both are only one letter off). However, I don't think you were just guessing at the names. Should I give it to you, since they're not "incorrect words" (like "far" instead of "for") or should I make you spell them correctly too? I don't know the policy on this.

This book (UT) is SO good, once you get past the never-ending Narn i hin Hurin.
You know what - wait for the correct spellings. I remember the first one now - but would have to make some guesses with alternate letters in the second.

But the reason I say this - I felt sort of guilty solving, but I love those characters so much (father, brothers... you know! ) - but I'm out of town for a few days and won't be able to monitor progress on a solution. I leave early tomorrow morning.

So - let someone else complete the solve, and I'll be back soon.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:20 AM   #63
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Okay!

Varna - where is "The Children of Hurin"? That sounds like it might be in a HoME, which I'm only fortunate to own ... I think the first book of lost tales.
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It's not in HoME, it's a book of it's own, published last year or so. Christopher Tolkien finally put all the bits of narrative together in one story.
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It's not in HoME, it's a book of it's own, published last year or so. Christopher Tolkien finally put all the bits of narrative together in one story.
He did. I only wish he would do the same for Tuor and Gondolin. But that's not as close to a finished version ...

If I may make a guess, would one of those names be Arotan?
(Just to be back on topic ...)
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Unfortunately not. I'll tell you that all the current consonants in the names are correct and do not need to be changed.
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Ciryon?

Araton?

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Yes. And yes. Your turn, Val.
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Sorry I've not done this yet. Will try this evening. Hopefully within 10-12 hours.
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Whew - bad boy... here goes:

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/C_l_e_/,/I/_a_/,/t_o_g_/I/_a_e/_o_/c_l_e_/y_u/_o/_e/,
/_t_a_g_r_/f_o_/d_s_a_t/_a_d_/./Y_u/_a_e/_o_e/_n_/a_e/_e_/h_r_/,
/i_/t_i_/v_r_/n_c_/o_/t_m_/,/b_/c_a_c_/a_/i_/m_y/_e_m/.
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That is the purpose for which you are called hither.
Called, I say, though I have not called you to me,

Is the speaker Elrond?
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You're correct on the speaker - and the words you tried to solve.

Don't stop now...
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Still all correct Varnafinde - except for an error on my part. In transposing, I switched 'here' and 'met'. Quote as now solved so far - with the correction:

"That is the purpose for which you are called hither.
Called, I say, though I have not called you to me,
strangers from distant lands. You have come and are here met,
in this very nick of time, by chance as it may seem.
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Again - all correct. Just two words left to solve.
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"That is the purpose for which you are called hither.
Called, I say, though I have not called you to me,
strangers from distant lands. You have come and are here met,
in this very nick of time, by chance as it may seem.
Yet it is not so. Believe rather that it is so ordered that we,
who sit here, and none others,
must now find/_o_n_e_/for the peril of the world."

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'yet' and 'counsel' are the final correct adds. Your turn, Midge.
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