What's your favorite non-human race in LOTR? - Page 4

Menelvagor · 04-02-2002, 09:09 PM

Yes! Another eagle fan! You have to admit it is amusing the way they always swoop in at the very last minute to save the day.

Occasionally Jay · 04-02-2002, 09:14 PM

How would that be pronounced? I can do Nyet, but the rest makes me quiver in fear of Bad Russian Mispronunciation.

Book-a-minute says the eagles are Deus ex Machinas. I think that's wrong. I think they're Dei ex Machina....

Menelvagor · 04-02-2002, 09:32 PM

I have no idea. I've been pronouncing it just like it looks, but that could be terribly horribly wrong. I don't acctually know Russian, I just liked that phrase so I remembered it from somewhere.

What's Book-a-minute? I've been trying to find a Russian-English dictionary (so I can say Frodo Lives in Russian

) but every one I've found has translated things into Russian character too, so i can't read it.

Treebeard's apprentice · 04-03-2002, 10:12 PM

ENTS!!!

(I guess the name probably gives it away)

Occasionally Jay · 04-04-2002, 10:51 AM

I don't really know how to explain book-a-minute...it's a parody site, that crunches books into about a page of dialogue.

If I recall rightly, the summary for "Return of the King" went something like this--

::Gandalf:: You will all die.
*they don't.*
::Gandalf:: Gondor will fall.
*it doesn't*
*A bunch of winged Deus ex machinas come down and save the day*

BeardofPants · 04-04-2002, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Menelvagor
Nyet, ya kashka.

Yep, exactly how it sounds.

Ny e (as in ear)t ya (as in Jar ) ka (as in cat) shk (shch) a.

Radagast The Brown · 04-05-2002, 01:41 PM

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And as a point of fact, hobbits are stronger than the general human. This is not to put humans down, but rather a simple truth.

I think that the humans are stronger then the hobbits. (maiby not in there inside power but defenetly from the outside one.

Occasionally Jay · 04-05-2002, 05:24 PM

No, I think proportionately that hobbits are stronger.

Elf Girl · 04-05-2002, 06:42 PM

Pippin says they know some wrestling tricks.

BeardofPants · 04-05-2002, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Occasionally Jay
No, I think proportionately that hobbits are stronger.

Actually, since they are 'stouter' than us, they ARE probably stronger, due to thicker bones, and musculature.

afro-elf · 04-06-2002, 07:34 AM

Elves no doubt

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Actually, since they are 'stouter' than us, they ARE probably stronger, due to thicker bones, and musculature.

stout has several meanings so thicker bones and musculature do not NECESSARILY follow

it COULD mean Strong in body; sturdy.

but also simply to a superabundance or excess of flesh.

or stout could also mean brace

yeah but I'd whoop ass with STOUT adolesent in any of those above definitions

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Pippin says they know some wrestling tricks

that does not consistute great muscle power

the hobbits had greater endurance than COMMON men

But against the High men i don't think they are a match

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As a test for the doubtful, why don't you go let all but six of your teeth rot out of your mouth, and see if you can bite off a finger

the ring had changed gollum
i don't think i would correct to call him a hobbit

just as I would not call nazgul men

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Or whack off an orc head with a piece of wood?

that tale is not necessarily a true tale. the defeat of the orc yes but golfimbul maybe be fictitious or facetious

see:

comp. guide to ME

someone mentioned about hobbits ONLy had the strength to carry the ring

But frodo, failed, it corrupted gollum. Dwarves were not servants to their rings per se, so they may have been a better choice

afro-elf · 04-06-2002, 07:41 AM

also look at the greatest hobbit warriors IF we take the story of bullroarer and golfimbul to be true he knocked the head of an orc

compare hurin the greatest human warrior he slew 70 trolls AFTER already being in battle for against the other servant of morgoth so turgon could retreat

Radagast The Brown · 04-06-2002, 09:16 AM

so you didn't decided who is to your opinion is right?
I don't know the first story but I could say that it's more difficult to kill 70 trolls then one orc.
I could say to the hobbits that Frodo didn't died when from Nazgul's sword in the start.

Lightice · 04-06-2002, 09:45 AM

I'd say, that hobbits had more endurance than normal men, as well as willpower, but I don't think, that they were physically stronger. There was no straight mentions about hobbit strength, but Tolkien told many times, that they could survive in hardest of situations, becouse their love for life, or something like that.

Elf Girl · 04-06-2002, 09:53 AM

Yeah, he bore the shard for seventeen days.

afro-elf · 04-06-2002, 10:17 AM

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so you didn't decided who is to your opinion is right?

I'm not sure i really understand

but I THINK you mean what is my choice

ELVES

Daughter of Elros · 04-06-2002, 03:09 PM

elves- after all, I am a vertiaclly challenged elf (or at least, so I beleive)

BeardofPants · 04-06-2002, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by afro-elf
also look at the greatest hobbit warriors IF we take the story of bullroarer and golfimbul to be true he knocked the head of an orc

compare hurin the greatest human warrior he slew 70 trolls AFTER already being in battle for against the other servant of morgoth so turgon could retreat

Yeah, but you have to consider that Men are more WARLIKE than Hobbits. Would that the Hobbits be as violent as Men, then I have no doubt that they'd whoop arse. No matter, that they are shorter than us. It is as an earlier poster said, they are more hardy, and can endure more than us.

afro-elf · 04-06-2002, 07:08 PM

being more hardy does not equate great strength nor does it equate better war skills

i don't think they would ever be a kick as group of warriors

Samwise_Gamgee · 04-07-2002, 12:19 AM

HOBBITS!!!!!!!! HOBBITS!!! Hobbits!!! HOBBITS!!! HOBBITS!!! HOBBITS!!! Can you tell I like hobbits?!?!?!? I LOVE HOBBITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOBBITS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-02-2002, 09:14 PM	#62
Occasionally Jay Enting Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 51	No, I'm a cat How would that be pronounced? I can do Nyet, but the rest makes me quiver in fear of Bad Russian Mispronunciation. Book-a-minute says the eagles are Deus ex Machinas. I think that's wrong. I think they're Dei ex Machina.... __________________ There's a light house in the middle of Prussia/ A white house in a, red square.. (He's a real hoopy Frodo who always knows where his towel is.)

04-04-2002, 10:51 AM	#65
Occasionally Jay Enting Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 51	I don't really know how to explain book-a-minute...it's a parody site, that crunches books into about a page of dialogue. If I recall rightly, the summary for "Return of the King" went something like this-- ::Gandalf:: You will all die. they don't. ::Gandalf:: Gondor will fall. it doesn't A bunch of winged Deus ex machinas come down and save the day __________________ There's a light house in the middle of Prussia/ A white house in a, red square.. (He's a real hoopy Frodo who always knows where his towel is.)

04-05-2002, 05:24 PM	#68
Occasionally Jay Enting Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 51	No, I think proportionately that hobbits are stronger. __________________ There's a light house in the middle of Prussia/ A white house in a, red square.. (He's a real hoopy Frodo who always knows where his towel is.)

04-05-2002, 06:42 PM	#69
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Pippin says they know some wrestling tricks. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-06-2002, 07:41 AM	#72
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	also look at the greatest hobbit warriors IF we take the story of bullroarer and golfimbul to be true he knocked the head of an orc compare hurin the greatest human warrior he slew 70 trolls AFTER already being in battle for against the other servant of morgoth so turgon could retreat __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

04-02-2002, 09:09 PM	#61
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	Yes! Another eagle fan! You have to admit it is amusing the way they always swoop in at the very last minute to save the day.

04-02-2002, 09:32 PM	#63
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	I have no idea. I've been pronouncing it just like it looks, but that could be terribly horribly wrong. I don't acctually know Russian, I just liked that phrase so I remembered it from somewhere. What's Book-a-minute? I've been trying to find a Russian-English dictionary (so I can say Frodo Lives in Russian ) but every one I've found has translated things into Russian character too, so i can't read it.

04-03-2002, 10:12 PM	#64
Treebeard's apprentice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 207	ENTS!!! (I guess the name probably gives it away)

04-06-2002, 09:16 AM	#73
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Re to afro elf so you didn't decided who is to your opinion is right? I don't know the first story but I could say that it's more difficult to kill 70 trolls then one orc. I could say to the hobbits that Frodo didn't died when from Nazgul's sword in the start. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

04-06-2002, 09:45 AM	#74
Lightice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 192	I'd say, that hobbits had more endurance than normal men, as well as willpower, but I don't think, that they were physically stronger. There was no straight mentions about hobbit strength, but Tolkien told many times, that they could survive in hardest of situations, becouse their love for life, or something like that.

04-06-2002, 09:53 AM	#75
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Yeah, he bore the shard for seventeen days. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-06-2002, 03:09 PM	#77
Daughter of Elros Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 69	elves- after all, I am a vertiaclly challenged elf (or at least, so I beleive)

04-06-2002, 07:08 PM	#79
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	being more hardy does not equate great strength nor does it equate better war skills i don't think they would ever be a kick as group of warriors __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

04-07-2002, 12:19 AM	#80
Samwise_Gamgee Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 3 Bagshot Row, Hobbiton in the Shire Posts: 25	HOBBITS!!!!!!!! HOBBITS!!! Hobbits!!! HOBBITS!!! HOBBITS!!! HOBBITS!!! Can you tell I like hobbits?!?!?!? I LOVE HOBBITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOBBITS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ The Road goes ever on and on, Down from the door where it began, Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can, Pursing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way, Where many paths and errands meet And whither then? I cannot say. :~:~:~:~:~:FRODO LIVES:~:~:~:~:~:

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