harry potter and the goblet of fire : the film - Page 4

Telcontar_Dunedain · 11-22-2005, 01:16 PM

Okay here are my complaints.
I didn't like the portrayal of Mad Eye Moody. I know he is meant to be mad, but IMO the way he was done made him look completley stupid, not the famous Auror that he was.
I was disappointed with the Quiddich World Cup for two reasons. One, there was no Quidditch, so we didn't really see what all the hype about Viktor Krum was. Two, the Death Eater scene. I was looking forward to seeing Crouch publically punish his house elf, who we didn't even meet, and becasue of that Hermione didn't start her house elf rights obsession.
In all the other films there was at least one of every lesson, but in this film there was only one lesson in the whole film. It made it look slightly like there were no lessons once the Triwizard Tournament had started. Also the absence of the Weasley family during the Tournament annoyed me slightly.
Lastly and probably the thing which irritated me the most was the way everything was left unfinished. Nothing was explained to you, and one of the most key parts, the denial of Cornelius Fudge, was left out at the end.

Other than that I loved it!

***RÃan*** · 11-23-2005, 06:13 PM

My oldest son and I saw it last night. It was - eeeh, it just didn't engage me like the other ones did. Maybe that was because we went to the theater near our house and the power had just gone out, so we had to stand in line and get a refund, then we raced across town to the other theater and walked in just as it was starting, so I wasn't exactly relaxed.

I just felt that there was so much they tried to cover that it ended up not having much depth. I was disappointed, and I was looking forward to really enjoying it.

Hermione looked "pretty in pink", though! But Victor Krum looked too old for a student, IMO. And what's with the retro hairdo for Ron?

And I still can't stand the new Dumbledore actor

The first one was SO good

Maybe I'll like it better if/when I watch it again. Worth seeing, but just not as good as the others, IMO.

durinsbane2244 · 11-23-2005, 09:07 PM

well, maybe they'll pull a peter jackson and throw the missing stuff in at the end...yes, that's 2 towers-return of the king referance...you gotta problem? bite me!

Spock · 11-23-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RÃ*an

I just felt that there was so much they tried to cover that it ended up not having much depth. I was disappointed, and I was looking forward to really enjoying it.

Well it was the longest book to that point. Two nights ago A&E had an hour on the making of the movie and I too agree that Krum looks way too old to be a student and was disappointed in the new D. actor as well.

However, when it comes out on DVD, I'll buy it anyway.

durinsbane2244 · 11-24-2005, 08:48 PM

i must say, i thought that the durmstrang students were quite snazzy with those staves...er, i'm almost sure that's the right plural of staff, but not totally....

tolkienfan · 11-25-2005, 01:39 AM

I just saw it, I liked it better than I liked the third movie. I didn't like Dumbledore, he was mean. I didn't like Ron either, the actor is fine, it's just that half the time he opened his mouth he started swearing. Krum, Fleur, and Cedric, Cho, and Rita Skeeter were pretty good I think. Daniel Radcliffs acting was much better. The hedge maze was scary! The graveyard scene was good, so was the second task. The dragon scene started out good, but I think it was too long, I did not like Harry hanging off the roof, the dragon was too small, I just wish they had kept it closer to the book. The ball was pretty good, but I did not like the bath scene. When I heard they left out all of the house-elves I was a little upset, but it worked pretty well. I guess they had to cut all of it. I love the Ton Tounge Toffee part of the book, and it would have been a cool scene, but after thinking about it I guess they didn't need it. I'll post more later, I have to go.

Rconsole · 11-25-2005, 05:38 PM

I'm gonna see it tonight, they cut out the elves

o well i have such high expectations for this movie...i hope i don't get too disapointed

tolkienfan · 11-26-2005, 01:36 AM

Why did Crouch Jr. keep flicking his tounge out like a snake or something? He was pretty freaky.

sun-star · 11-26-2005, 05:30 PM

I thought he was rather... ahem... more attractive than one might expect an insane patricidal Azkaban-escapee to be. Looking forward to seeing him as the new Doctor Who

tolkienfan · 11-26-2005, 08:04 PM

I didn't like Moody very much either. His eye wasn't quite how I pictured it and he was a little too mean in his class.

durinsbane2244 · 11-26-2005, 08:39 PM

psst...[nudges tolkienfan]...he's a deranged lunatic...course he's mean...

anyway, i just saw it a second time last night, and they got the perfect actress for rita skeeter....i wanted to stand up and punch her face on the screen....perfect casting...

tolkienfan · 11-27-2005, 01:08 AM

Well, I guess that is true about Crouch Jr.... Rita Skeeter was pretty good, very annoying.

**Nurvingiel** · 11-27-2005, 01:56 AM

They're actually making a spin-off movie: Ron Weasley and the Really Bad Haircut.

Lord Choc Obo · 11-27-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

They're actually making a spin-off movie: Ron Weasley and the Really Bad Haircut.

when's it gonna come out??

durinsbane2244 · 11-27-2005, 08:38 PM

psst...choco...i think that was sarcasm...

anyway, did anyone else notice emma watson's eyebrows? eh?

it's like: [>] blah [<] blah [l] blah [>] blah [<] blah

and so on, and so forth, the little shapes being the brows....'tis crazy!

Finrod Felagund · 11-27-2005, 09:21 PM

The thing I missed the most was Sirius showing up at the end and all the missions/plans that Dumbledore send everyone on.

And Moody turned out better than I expected.

But yeah, it did seem sort of, unfinished.

durinsbane2244 · 11-27-2005, 09:30 PM

i'm sad about the total lack of sirius at all...we couldn't even see his face well! [bothced that, should've been floating and fire, not embers] and next movie he gets bumped off...it's not fair! he's tied for first with DD and SS for me!! wah!!

tolkienfan · 11-28-2005, 01:02 AM

I did not get the scene where Filch comes running into the Great Hall. How was that crucial to the story?

Elanor · 11-28-2005, 05:58 PM

That was comic relief! I thought it was funny.

Things I liked:
Fred and George-- the age line and "babbling bumbling bunch of baboons".
Cedric-- played the part perfectly, very sympathetic. Died well.

Rita Skeeter-- Miranda Richardson rocks.
Harry-- great reactions to all the special effects, which he couldn't see (Myrtle, Dragon, maze, Priori Incantatem, etc.), and he really held the plot together.
Hermione at the Yule Ball. Her fight with Ron was almost exactly how I imagined it.
Frank Bryce and the Riddle House-- perfect.
Priori Incantatem-- almost perfect. By this I mean that the special effect was almost exactly how it was described in the book (Unlike a certain Patronus in the third film). I did miss the Phoenix song, though, and it wouldn't have taken long for Dumbledore to explain that it was because they had brother wands, since it was mentioned in the first movie.
The Dark Mark-- great. I was glad they simplified the Barty Crouch, Jr. plot. This way someone who hadn't read the book could at least understand who he was. I didn't really want to see the movie portrayal of a drunk female house elf anyway...

I did miss the thousand-Galleon prize. How hard would it be to mention that instead of the cheesy "eternal glory" speech? I think it would make Ron's resentment more real, too. They wouldn't even have to explain what Harry did with it-- they could leave that to the fifth movie.

Lord Choc Obo · 11-28-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by durinsbane2244

psst...choco...i think that was sarcasm...

psst...durin...I knew that

11-22-2005, 01:16 PM	#61
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Okay here are my complaints. I didn't like the portrayal of Mad Eye Moody. I know he is meant to be mad, but IMO the way he was done made him look completley stupid, not the famous Auror that he was. I was disappointed with the Quiddich World Cup for two reasons. One, there was no Quidditch, so we didn't really see what all the hype about Viktor Krum was. Two, the Death Eater scene. I was looking forward to seeing Crouch publically punish his house elf, who we didn't even meet, and becasue of that Hermione didn't start her house elf rights obsession. In all the other films there was at least one of every lesson, but in this film there was only one lesson in the whole film. It made it look slightly like there were no lessons once the Triwizard Tournament had started. Also the absence of the Weasley family during the Tournament annoyed me slightly. Lastly and probably the thing which irritated me the most was the way everything was left unfinished. Nothing was explained to you, and one of the most key parts, the denial of Cornelius Fudge, was left out at the end. Other than that I loved it! __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

11-23-2005, 06:13 PM	#62
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	My oldest son and I saw it last night. It was - eeeh, it just didn't engage me like the other ones did. Maybe that was because we went to the theater near our house and the power had just gone out, so we had to stand in line and get a refund, then we raced across town to the other theater and walked in just as it was starting, so I wasn't exactly relaxed. I just felt that there was so much they tried to cover that it ended up not having much depth. I was disappointed, and I was looking forward to really enjoying it. Hermione looked "pretty in pink", though! But Victor Krum looked too old for a student, IMO. And what's with the retro hairdo for Ron? And I still can't stand the new Dumbledore actor The first one was SO good Maybe I'll like it better if/when I watch it again. Worth seeing, but just not as good as the others, IMO. __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

11-23-2005, 09:07 PM	#63
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	well, maybe they'll pull a peter jackson and throw the missing stuff in at the end...yes, that's 2 towers-return of the king referance...you gotta problem? bite me! __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-24-2005, 08:48 PM	#65
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i must say, i thought that the durmstrang students were quite snazzy with those staves...er, i'm almost sure that's the right plural of staff, but not totally.... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-25-2005, 01:39 AM	#66
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	I just saw it, I liked it better than I liked the third movie. I didn't like Dumbledore, he was mean. I didn't like Ron either, the actor is fine, it's just that half the time he opened his mouth he started swearing. Krum, Fleur, and Cedric, Cho, and Rita Skeeter were pretty good I think. Daniel Radcliffs acting was much better. The hedge maze was scary! The graveyard scene was good, so was the second task. The dragon scene started out good, but I think it was too long, I did not like Harry hanging off the roof, the dragon was too small, I just wish they had kept it closer to the book. The ball was pretty good, but I did not like the bath scene. When I heard they left out all of the house-elves I was a little upset, but it worked pretty well. I guess they had to cut all of it. I love the Ton Tounge Toffee part of the book, and it would have been a cool scene, but after thinking about it I guess they didn't need it. I'll post more later, I have to go. __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

11-25-2005, 05:38 PM	#67
Rconsole Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 359	I'm gonna see it tonight, they cut out the elves o well i have such high expectations for this movie...i hope i don't get too disapointed

11-26-2005, 01:36 AM	#68
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	Why did Crouch Jr. keep flicking his tounge out like a snake or something? He was pretty freaky. __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

11-26-2005, 05:30 PM	#69
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	I thought he was rather... ahem... more attractive than one might expect an insane patricidal Azkaban-escapee to be. Looking forward to seeing him as the new Doctor Who __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

11-26-2005, 08:04 PM	#70
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	I didn't like Moody very much either. His eye wasn't quite how I pictured it and he was a little too mean in his class. __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

11-26-2005, 08:39 PM	#71
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	psst...[nudges tolkienfan]...he's a deranged lunatic...course he's mean... anyway, i just saw it a second time last night, and they got the perfect actress for rita skeeter....i wanted to stand up and punch her face on the screen....perfect casting... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-27-2005, 01:08 AM	#72
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	Well, I guess that is true about Crouch Jr.... Rita Skeeter was pretty good, very annoying. __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

11-27-2005, 08:38 PM	#75
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	psst...choco...i think that was sarcasm... anyway, did anyone else notice emma watson's eyebrows? eh? it's like: [>] blah [<] blah [l] blah [>] blah [<] blah and so on, and so forth, the little shapes being the brows....'tis crazy! __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-27-2005, 09:21 PM	#76
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	The thing I missed the most was Sirius showing up at the end and all the missions/plans that Dumbledore send everyone on. And Moody turned out better than I expected. But yeah, it did seem sort of, unfinished. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

11-27-2005, 09:30 PM	#77
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i'm sad about the total lack of sirius at all...we couldn't even see his face well! [bothced that, should've been floating and fire, not embers] and next movie he gets bumped off...it's not fair! he's tied for first with DD and SS for me!! wah!! __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-28-2005, 01:02 AM	#78
tolkienfan Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Internet Posts: 803	I did not get the scene where Filch comes running into the Great Hall. How was that crucial to the story? __________________ Don't be hasty! Thanks so much to Last Child of Ungoliant, Twista, and BeardofPants for my avatar!

11-28-2005, 05:58 PM	#79
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	That was comic relief! I thought it was funny. Things I liked: Fred and George-- the age line and "babbling bumbling bunch of baboons". Cedric-- played the part perfectly, very sympathetic. Died well. Rita Skeeter-- Miranda Richardson rocks. Harry-- great reactions to all the special effects, which he couldn't see (Myrtle, Dragon, maze, Priori Incantatem, etc.), and he really held the plot together. Hermione at the Yule Ball. Her fight with Ron was almost exactly how I imagined it. Frank Bryce and the Riddle House-- perfect. Priori Incantatem-- almost perfect. By this I mean that the special effect was almost exactly how it was described in the book (Unlike a certain Patronus in the third film). I did miss the Phoenix song, though, and it wouldn't have taken long for Dumbledore to explain that it was because they had brother wands, since it was mentioned in the first movie. The Dark Mark-- great. I was glad they simplified the Barty Crouch, Jr. plot. This way someone who hadn't read the book could at least understand who he was. I didn't really want to see the movie portrayal of a drunk female house elf anyway... I did miss the thousand-Galleon prize. How hard would it be to mention that instead of the cheesy "eternal glory" speech? I think it would make Ron's resentment more real, too. They wouldn't even have to explain what Harry did with it-- they could leave that to the fifth movie. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes