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Old 03-05-2003, 08:47 PM   #61
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*hopes SGH and Ruinel knock each other out so she can run off with Finrod *


We have a truce... but that is only b/c Finrod is (OMG, dare I say it...) fictional. *small tear streams down Ruinel's face, for facing bitter reality* Had Finrod been real, well... we'll just leave the rest to your imagination *gives RĂ*an a big nasty stare-down*.

I actually tried to put my B-Day in my profile screen as 1st age... it didn't take. I have the UT (great book). I've ordered Morgoth's Ring, War of the Jewels, and Peoples of ME. They should be arriving at my house within a few days and I'm anxious to read them. The first thing I will read is Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth. *gets all quivery inside thinking about Finrod*

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Old 03-05-2003, 09:16 PM   #62
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*gives RĂ*an a big nasty stare-down*
*hee hee*

I guess I better leave him to SGH, though, because I'm completely in awe of her vast admin powers (she can do things like edit my posts and make me appear to say mean things about Tuor )

After you've read the Athrabeth, you might want to bring up our thread on it. It was a very enjoyable discussion

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Old 03-05-2003, 09:19 PM   #63
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After you've read the Athrabeth, you might want to bring up our thread on it. It was a very enjoyable discussion

*thinks "North away...." - SIGH!* [/B]
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I can't wait!
Oh, you will love it so much. You will see exactly what kind of guy Finrod really is in this. It will show you him in a much more magnified way than the Sil. Here, you will read his thoughts and feelings, and see his virtues. You will cry, and walk away in more awe of him than you ever had before. He is amazing in this work. And yes, when you are finished, go see the thread "Athrabeth Finrod Ah Andreth" It was a wonderful discussion.

Rian, I am actually glad to have some competition, but there is no hope for her in the end.
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Old 03-06-2003, 09:32 AM   #65
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Rian, I am actually glad to have some competition, but there is no hope for her in the end.
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Old 03-06-2003, 01:42 PM   #66
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Hehe. Lo que es la belleza de los Campos Eliseos.
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Here, you will read his thoughts and feelings, and see his virtues. You will cry, and walk away in more awe of him than you ever had before. He is amazing in this work.
Wow, you cried? I would hope that it was because of Andreth.
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2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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Old 03-06-2003, 02:09 PM   #67
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Hehe. Lo que es la belleza de los Campos Eliseos.

Wow, you cried? I would hope that it was because of Andreth.
It was because of all three of them. Andreth's rejection, Aegnor's pain, and Finrod? I always had the impression that he suffered terribly over Aegnor's choice to not return, because I think Aegnor rejected Andreth by Finrod's advice.
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Old 03-06-2003, 02:40 PM   #68
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It was because of all three of them. Andreth's rejection, Aegnor's pain, and Finrod? I always had the impression that he suffered terribly over Aegnor's choice to not return, because I think Aegnor rejected Andreth by Finrod's advice.
If that is true, then I have zero respect for Finrod. To deny his brother a chance at happiness is pitiful. I have never been an FF fan but I always saw him as a good guy, I just don't see how could someone admire a person who does that. That is a failing in true love.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
As a noun American is:
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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because I think Aegnor rejected Andreth by Finrod's advice.
I don't think that is true. What make you think so?
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And btw, what is "Campos Eliseos"?
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If that is true, then I have zero respect for Finrod. To deny his brother a chance at happiness is pitiful. I have never been an FF fan but I always saw him as a good guy, I just don't see how could someone admire a person who does that. That is a failing in true love.
Maedhros, Finrod was a good guy, but Finrod knew that such a union would be terrible. He said, brief it would be, and hard to the end. But, even if it was his advice to Aegnor, Aegnor's choice was his own. You can not hold his choice against Finrod. Aegnor was a big boy, not a baby.
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I don't think that is true. What make you think so?
Well, why would Finrod state how marriage between these two kindred would be brief and hard to the end, and that the least cruelest fate would be that death should soon end it, to Andreth, and not say it to Aegnor? He obviously had spoke to Aegnor about this possible union, and he tells Andreth that love and loyalty hold him to his kin.

Btw folks, I think we are a tad bit off topic.
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OK I just read your reply to Maedhros. It seems that I was reading your post wrong, I thought you meant Finrod persuaded Aegnor.

Yes, we are OT
*jumps to Athrabeth thread*
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but Finrod knew that such a union would be terrible. He said, brief it would be, and hard to the end.
So. I believe that the few small moments of pure love would detter and eterny of despair, but that is just me. I see it as a failing of love.
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I cannot hold his choice, but I can hold his intentions, that the great FF didn't thought that his brother didn't have enough love for her.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.”
As an adjective American is:
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2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
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Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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So. I believe that the few small moments of pure love would detter and eterny of despair, but that is just me. I see it as a failing of love.

I cannot hold his choice, but I can hold his intentions, that the great FF didn't thought that his brother didn't have enough love for her.
Where did it ever say that Finrod didn't think that his brother had enough love for her?

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Also, we should discuss this in the "Athrabeth" thread in the Middle-earth forum. This thread is about Finrod and Amarie.
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It was because of all three of them. Andreth's rejection, Aegnor's pain, and Finrod? I always had the impression that he suffered terribly over Aegnor's choice to not return, because I think Aegnor rejected Andreth by Finrod's advice.
Dude... what up with "What is the beauty of the Eliseos Fields". What do you mean?
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Dude... what up with "What is the beauty of the Eliseos Fields". What do you mean?
Um, what?
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*Ruinel is lost in this conversation, but thinks Maedhros needs a kick in the pants for not being completely on Finrod's side on everything!!!*
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Where you trying to comment on my quote SGH? Or were you laughing too hard to type?
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Where did it ever say that Finrod didn't think that his brother had enough love for her?
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I always had the impression that he suffered terribly over Aegnor's choice to not return, because I think Aegnor rejected Andreth by Finrod's advice.
If the great FF did that, it is terribly sad.
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Also, we should discuss this in the "Athrabeth" thread in the Middle-earth forum. This thread is about Finrod and Amarie.
Not necessarily, if I imply from your post that Finrod advice to his brother was to refect Andreth, can it be that it had something to do with the fact that he didn't know true love in ME because Amarië left him in Aman. True failing of love.
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As an adjective American is:
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A citizen of the United States.

Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again:
1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?”
The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.”
The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance.
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