Best Guitarists of All Time - Page 3

Insidious Rex · 04-15-2003, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Lizra
So Danny Gatton comitted suicide! Tell me more? That is sad.

Yeah it was an enormous loss. Just really big. Up there with Stevie Ray in terms of amazing talent lost. All the great guitarists called him "The Worlds Greatest Unkown Guitarist" and for good reason. He killed himself in 1994 after a fight with his wife or someone. He just stormed out to his garage and shot himself. And that was it. If he had had time to think about it he probably would never have done it. But he probably suffered from depression. He was never diagnosed though.

By the way did anyone name Les Paul, Joe Pass, Scotty Moore, Charlie Byrd, Roy Buchanan?

Lizra · 04-15-2003, 02:00 PM

Yowzaa! Scotty Moore!

Comic Book Guy · 04-15-2003, 05:08 PM

Hmm it can be argued that Metal and the neo-classical shred genres aren't the most technically skilled genres, Jazz guitarists seem a lot more technically skilled with stuff like chord solos. Metal certainly isn't the most theoritically challenging, most songs are simple chord vamps.

I personally don't care how about complex something is, though it doesn't make me want to appreciate it very much though.

FoolofaTook · 04-15-2003, 07:51 PM

I agree that some of the guitarists on here are just people's favourites and are not that great (personally I don't think Eric Clapton is that great), but a lot of the guitarists became people's favourites BECAUSE they are great. No one can deny that some popular guitarists ARE great (i.e. Jimmy Paige, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray).

Insidious Rex · 04-15-2003, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by FoolofaTook
I agree that some of the guitarists on here are just people's favourites and are not that great (personally I don't think Eric Clapton is that great), but a lot of the guitarists became people's favourites BECAUSE they are great. No one can deny that some popular guitarists ARE great (i.e. Jimmy Paige, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray).

you dont think eric clapton is a good guitarist? all i have to do is put in Disraeli Gears to see just how talented he is. nevermind how brilliant he has gotten with playing the blues. very subtle and very rich. and remember he was considered one of the best studio musicians in england in the mid 60's. Along with Jeff Beck and Jimmy Paige. I cant see how you could say he wasnt a great guitarist.

*humming Layla*

*now huming crossroads*

Bombadillo · 04-15-2003, 10:59 PM

Lizra rocks. She likes AC/DC.

Angus Young is gifted and talented. Did you ever see how he plays his guitar. That's impossible.

And Buckethead really is a great, talented, inhumanly gifted guitarist too. Obviously I don't study him (didn't even know his name) but he makes it talk for Christ's sake.

afro-elf · 04-16-2003, 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by Comic Book Guy
Hmm it can be argued that Metal and the neo-classical shred genres aren't the most technically skilled genres, Jazz guitarists seem a lot more technically skilled with stuff like chord solos. Metal certainly isn't the most theoritically challenging, most songs are simple chord vamps.

I personally don't care how about complex something is, though it doesn't make me want to appreciate it very much though.

It depends on the vein of the music. Cock rock and hair spray bands are definitely simple chord construction.

However, for example, early Dream Theater with John Petrucci is not.

Many of the Neo-Classicist are classically trained and theoritcally laden.
So, I will have to agree with you to point, but utterly disagree otherwise.

Who are some Jazz musicians that you would name?

afro-elf · 04-16-2003, 03:35 AM

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Hey I resent being told that my musical taste is akin to Keanu worshipping from someone who listed Scorpian!

There are a lot of Keanu bands that I like.

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ok "Boogie Man" you can stop laughing

The first concert I saw was the Jackson 5 ( When Michael was Black) and the opening group was K.C. and The Sunshine Band.

Millane · 04-16-2003, 08:36 AM

oooh AC/DC and Daniel Day-Lewis Afro elf you are a champ

ummm as for best guitarists i am going to put down the ones that arent just fancy guitar crap (thats all flea from RHCP is) but good music... my fav 3 would be
John 5 and whoever was the guitarist before him...
Angus from AC/DC
Eric Clapton
ahhhh stuff it ill say Bob Marley aswell coz his subtle guitar work is music to my ears.

Insidious Rex · 04-16-2003, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Millane
ummm as for best guitarists i am going to put down the ones that arent just fancy guitar crap (thats all flea from RHCP is)

flea is a bassist. and a rather talented one. he just likes to do strange things like play in a jock strap.

Comic Book Guy · 04-16-2003, 02:09 PM

Well, Jazz guitar isn't my cup of tea really, I've tried listening to Pat Metheny, Grant Green etc but I just don't get it, so I can't really help you there. However, this link may help you anyway.

http://guitar.about.com/library/weekly/aa040500a.htm

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ummm as for best guitarists i am going to put down the ones that arent just fancy guitar crap (thats all flea from RHCP is)

Eh, Flea plays bass.

Lizra · 04-16-2003, 04:32 PM

Yeah....lead bass.

afro-elf · 04-16-2003, 07:56 PM

CBC

Thanks for the link.

FoolofaTook · 04-17-2003, 07:05 PM

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I cant see how you could say he wasnt a great guitarist.

I'm not saying that Eric Clapton wasn't good. I'm just saying he wasn't great. I don't want to get into an arguement. I just think he's overrated.

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ummm as for best guitarists i am going to put down the ones that arent just fancy guitar crap (thats all flea from RHCP is)

Flea is a bassist, and he's amazing!

Millane · 04-18-2003, 09:11 AM

nah thats crap (not the bassist stuff) there is a lot of difference between being able to beat out something on an instrument and being able to make good music... thats why i said John 5 coz his music is not all that difficult but its awesome as...
IR playing in a jock strap doesnt make for good music either

Insidious Rex · 04-18-2003, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Millane
IR playing in a jock strap doesnt make for good music either

well who cares what he wears on stage. it has nothing to do with his ability. and hes a very talented bassist. no doubt about that. he can lay down some jazz base lines that would blow your average rock bassist away.

Comic Book Guy · 04-18-2003, 04:14 PM

Not to mention the crazy slap-bass solos! And anyway, whats with the clothes jibe man, you listed Angus Young.

Anglorfin · 04-19-2003, 01:00 AM

In response to the discussions about jazz, I have to say that I respect any type of guitar ability. I just always seem to leave out jazz because personally I don't listen to it that much however I agree that a lot of good jazz has amazing guitarwork and songwriting.

But whoever said that metal is just a bunch of chord vamps is wrong. Maybe "nu-metal" stuff like Korn or wutever is, who's musical talent is absolutely dwarfed by any real metal band. A lot of the stuff that afro-elf listed is very very technical. Also in the case of death metal although it might not be as technical it can be argued that you have to at least appreciate the guitarist's stamina . . .

Anyway, theory is based on chords, which is based on scales so no matter what it is going to fit together. Metal typically favors a few scales over others just as jazz typically favors a few scales. Nothing is more or less technical about it.

Ragnarok · 04-21-2003, 10:26 PM

These are guys that I think are some of the best:

Jimmy Page
Yngwie J Malmsteen (I think he gets less recognition than he deserves)
Randy Rhoads
Paul Gilbert
Marty Friedman
Joe Satriani
Kirk Hammet
Steve Vai
Edward Van Halen

other guitarists that I like and are talented:

Eric Clapton
Dave Gilmour
Carlos Santana
Mark Knopfler
Neil Young
Joe Stump
Syd Barret
Angus Young
Buckethead

Anglorfin · 04-22-2003, 12:15 AM

Oh and I forgot to add that Jazz bassists really impress me as well. Flea is OK but he's no Victor Wooten or Bootsy Collins. Les Claypool is probably my favorite bassist though, he's just got that image . . .

04-15-2003, 02:00 PM	#42
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04-15-2003, 10:59 PM	#46
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	Lizra rocks. She likes AC/DC. Angus Young is gifted and talented. Did you ever see how he plays his guitar. That's impossible. And Buckethead really is a great, talented, inhumanly gifted guitarist too. Obviously I don't study him (didn't even know his name) but he makes it talk for Christ's sake. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

04-16-2003, 08:36 AM	#49
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	oooh AC/DC and Daniel Day-Lewis Afro elf you are a champ ummm as for best guitarists i am going to put down the ones that arent just fancy guitar crap (thats all flea from RHCP is) but good music... my fav 3 would be John 5 and whoever was the guitarist before him... Angus from AC/DC Eric Clapton ahhhh stuff it ill say Bob Marley aswell coz his subtle guitar work is music to my ears. __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

04-16-2003, 04:32 PM	#52
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Yeah....lead bass. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

04-16-2003, 07:56 PM	#53
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	CBC Thanks for the link. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

04-15-2003, 05:08 PM	#43
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Hmm it can be argued that Metal and the neo-classical shred genres aren't the most technically skilled genres, Jazz guitarists seem a lot more technically skilled with stuff like chord solos. Metal certainly isn't the most theoritically challenging, most songs are simple chord vamps. I personally don't care how about complex something is, though it doesn't make me want to appreciate it very much though.

04-15-2003, 07:51 PM	#44
FoolofaTook Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ??? Posts: 214	I agree that some of the guitarists on here are just people's favourites and are not that great (personally I don't think Eric Clapton is that great), but a lot of the guitarists became people's favourites BECAUSE they are great. No one can deny that some popular guitarists ARE great (i.e. Jimmy Paige, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray).

04-18-2003, 09:11 AM	#55
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	nah thats crap (not the bassist stuff) there is a lot of difference between being able to beat out something on an instrument and being able to make good music... thats why i said John 5 coz his music is not all that difficult but its awesome as... IR playing in a jock strap doesnt make for good music either __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

04-18-2003, 04:14 PM	#57
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Not to mention the crazy slap-bass solos! And anyway, whats with the clothes jibe man, you listed Angus Young.

04-19-2003, 01:00 AM	#58
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	In response to the discussions about jazz, I have to say that I respect any type of guitar ability. I just always seem to leave out jazz because personally I don't listen to it that much however I agree that a lot of good jazz has amazing guitarwork and songwriting. But whoever said that metal is just a bunch of chord vamps is wrong. Maybe "nu-metal" stuff like Korn or wutever is, who's musical talent is absolutely dwarfed by any real metal band. A lot of the stuff that afro-elf listed is very very technical. Also in the case of death metal although it might not be as technical it can be argued that you have to at least appreciate the guitarist's stamina . . . Anyway, theory is based on chords, which is based on scales so no matter what it is going to fit together. Metal typically favors a few scales over others just as jazz typically favors a few scales. Nothing is more or less technical about it. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill." Last edited by Anglorfin : 04-19-2003 at 01:04 AM.

04-21-2003, 10:26 PM	#59
Ragnarok Rohirrim Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PA Posts: 590	These are guys that I think are some of the best: Jimmy Page Yngwie J Malmsteen (I think he gets less recognition than he deserves) Randy Rhoads Paul Gilbert Marty Friedman Joe Satriani Kirk Hammet Steve Vai Edward Van Halen other guitarists that I like and are talented: Eric Clapton Dave Gilmour Carlos Santana Mark Knopfler Neil Young Joe Stump Syd Barret Angus Young Buckethead

04-22-2003, 12:15 AM	#60
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	Oh and I forgot to add that Jazz bassists really impress me as well. Flea is OK but he's no Victor Wooten or Bootsy Collins. Les Claypool is probably my favorite bassist though, he's just got that image . . . __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

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