What's your favorite non-human race in LOTR? - Page 3

Liviaine · 03-23-2002, 04:16 PM

Elves.

sun-star · 03-23-2002, 04:24 PM

Ents, then Hobbits.

BeardofPants · 03-23-2002, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
well they are weak (comparatively to the men, the dwarves and the elves).
and you're right, not all of them chubby. they were boring (except of Frodo, Sam, Pippin and Marry).

AGAIN you are basing this assumption on the fact that Hobbits do not like to seek adventure. Maybe their strength is not quite up to dwarf, but you don't know that they aren't of equal strength to men!

I'm on to you: you're persecuting Hobbits! I'm reporting you to SPCH!

Lorien14 · 03-23-2002, 06:32 PM

I would say a tie between the horses and elves.

Khadrane · 03-23-2002, 10:34 PM

Quote:

I really don't know you are finding in the hobbits. there are nice but... they are weak and chubby... not my type.

Only a hobbit would have had the strength of will to carry the Ring to Mt. Doom. (At least, I think Tolkien said something like that.

) Plus, they are cool.

cee2lee2 · 03-23-2002, 11:28 PM

Ents, but then I'm a tree hugger from way back.

Then elves, and then hobbits.

Starr Polish · 03-23-2002, 11:58 PM

Elves...I've always had an obsession with them. Then hobbits.

mattk · 03-24-2002, 05:22 AM

hobbits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 03-24-2002, 01:41 PM

Elves.

Radagast The Brown · 03-24-2002, 02:32 PM

Quote:

AGAIN you are basing this assumption on the fact that Hobbits do not like to seek adventure. Maybe their strength is not quite up to dwarf, but you don't know that they aren't of equal strength to men!

I'm on to you: you're persecuting Hobbits! I'm reporting you to SPCH!

I'm just writing what I think true! (and I do think they are weak).

Quote:

Only a hobbit would have had the strength of will to carry the Ring to Mt. Doom. (At least, I think Tolkien said something like that. ) Plus, they are cool.

yes, they did carried the ring to Mt. Doom but with some help and they didn't throw the ring to the mountain(I know Isildor didn't too).

F.B.-B. · 03-25-2002, 01:54 AM

My thanks, Eruviel Greenleaf, for your kind welcome. And I also thank you, Beard for your astute defence of hobbitkind.
To Radagast (correct me if I am wrong, as I am not able to see who posted each message, and have not yet memorized the names, being new to this board,) hobbits are not a weak race. Physically, they are perhaps not well noted for their brawn, but they are nimble and deft, which is sometimes better than being strong. And yet they are strong. Bardobras Took was said to have whacked an orc's head clean off with a club. In terms of fighting, they have as much skill as any other species. Their bowmanship is excellent, (as is seen in The Scouring of the Shire,) they have a definite mastery of the sling, and unlike many, can fight even without weapons of steel and wood, as they are incredibly good with aim when rock throwing.
As to their being fat, that is a common misperseption due to the reference to their being broad. Though some had the tendancy to be overweight (six meals a day plus snacks will do it to anyone, humans included,) that was not a general rule.
I hope that I am not overanalizing. Just shout If I'm babbling too much, I do have a tendancy to do that.

My respects,

Andúril · 03-25-2002, 04:08 AM

Maybe this post belongs on the Weird thread, but anyway...

I have already said Elves, and now I will say why :

When I picture scenes from Middle-earth, I suddenly hear music (and this music varies from scene to scene). This is probably as a result of the way that I read LOTR and Silmarillian all the time - while listening to music. The genre of music that I listen to in this case is limited to dance, because I find this the best medium for transportation into Arda, and if you are familiar with the various subgenres, you might find the following interesting.

Elves : When any elf comes into the picture, I suddenly hear a combination of epic, uplifiting, and fluffy trance. When elves go into battle, the trance becomes harder, turning into techno, and I am subsequently bombarded with uplifting tech-trance of an alarmingly majestic nature. As elves march into battle, the progressive nature of the tune starts up, becoming more and more menacing, while keeping a strange sense of nobility. Suddenly battle begins, and I am hit with uplifting hard-house and epic goa trance, really powerful and confidence inspiring beats. I am filled with awe, as the eyes of the most powerful elves begin to glow with anger, and the beat becomes even faster and more powerful. Then, as the elves prove victorious, the climax has been reached, and the most incredible uplifting and dreamy melody is heard (no beat - this is important!), as if we somehow knew that the elves werer going to win. Then the music fades away, slowly.....

Now imagine what I hear when I picture Maiar.

Or Valar!!

Strangely I do not hear music when it comes to dwarves, ents hobbits, or eagles, etc. Corruptions, such as orcs or balrogs, usually take on a menacing, yet straightforward, pumping hard house beat, while the major bad boys, like Sauron or Morgoth, assume a deeper, eerie and sinister edge...

PS. When I am driving to work, I try to equate certain tunes with scenes from the Silmarillian. This morning I heard the PERFECT manifestation of Finrod vs Sauron. There were endorphins present...

F.B.-B. · 03-25-2002, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeardofPants

AGAIN you are basing this assumption on the fact that Hobbits do not like to seek adventure. Maybe their strength is not quite up to dwarf, but you don't know that they aren't of equal strength to men!

I'm on to you: you're persecuting Hobbits! I'm reporting you to SPCH!

A good point, BeardofPants! As a deeply committed member of SPCH, I will take your words under advisement.

And as a point of fact, hobbits are stronger than the general human. This is not to put humans down, but rather a simple truth.

As a test for the doubtful, why don't you go let all but six of your teeth rot out of your mouth, and see if you can bite off a finger? Or carry someone taller than you, and nearly your own weight up a mountainside? Or whack off an orc head with a piece of wood? Well, then again, it might be hard to find an orc around... Better yet: Go eat six full meals, plus snacks in between, and see if you are strong enough not to be clutching your midsection for the rest the night in overstuffed agony...

Fare well wherever you fare!

barrelrider110 · 03-25-2002, 09:29 AM

Our accounting firm (and it's not Arthur Anderson) has made a tally of the votes and the favorite(so far) is

**** opens envelope ****

Elves 14.25
Hobbits 11.5
Ents 3.75
Horses 1.5
Eagles 1.25
Dwarves .75

coneys got a mention, but Arathorn's vote went to the Ents.

Sorry about the fractional votes, some Mooters voted for 2, and one for four.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-26-2002, 03:49 AM

Elves forever! *er, that was a bit unnesecary, wasn't it?

*

barrelrider110 · 03-26-2002, 10:56 AM

I feel sorry for the Dwarves. They got beat by the Horses and Eagles.

Asilynn · 03-30-2002, 04:07 PM

Elves, specifically the Green Elves of Ossiriand.

Hobbits are really the backbone of the Hobbit and LOTR, but the Silmarillion is where the Elves really come into their own...if you want to wade through the slow parts....even some real fans aren't willing to do that. (I personally don't believe there are any slow parts...but I've always been a very avid reader of Tolkien.)

Asilynn

Shadowfax · 03-30-2002, 05:39 PM

I'd have to say that I like the Elves the best!

Twilight · 04-02-2002, 08:10 PM

I think that ents are my favorite race, but I think I might get bored of being one and decide to settle my roots. Being an elf would be much more fun. you can find excitement when you want it, but overall have a good peaceful life with plenty of food and singing. There also seems to be more companionship between the elves. I might get lonely being an ent because they seem to be more solitary.

Occasionally Jay · 04-02-2002, 09:03 PM

I can't believe more people don't want to be Eagles.

Come ON, folks, they're Bloody-big-arse-birds who can talk, and FLY, and save the day at the end of the books...

Eagle! Eagle! Eagle!

03-23-2002, 04:24 PM	#42
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	Ents, then Hobbits. __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

03-23-2002, 11:58 PM	#47
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Elves...I've always had an obsession with them. Then hobbits. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-25-2002, 01:54 AM	#51
F.B.-B. Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Over the Hill, and under the Hill, and across the Water. From the lands of my birth, into the place beyond the Sundering Seas. Posts: 69	My thanks, and concerning hobbits: My thanks, Eruviel Greenleaf, for your kind welcome. And I also thank you, Beard for your astute defence of hobbitkind. To Radagast (correct me if I am wrong, as I am not able to see who posted each message, and have not yet memorized the names, being new to this board,) hobbits are not a weak race. Physically, they are perhaps not well noted for their brawn, but they are nimble and deft, which is sometimes better than being strong. And yet they are strong. Bardobras Took was said to have whacked an orc's head clean off with a club. In terms of fighting, they have as much skill as any other species. Their bowmanship is excellent, (as is seen in The Scouring of the Shire,) they have a definite mastery of the sling, and unlike many, can fight even without weapons of steel and wood, as they are incredibly good with aim when rock throwing. As to their being fat, that is a common misperseption due to the reference to their being broad. Though some had the tendancy to be overweight (six meals a day plus snacks will do it to anyone, humans included,) that was not a general rule. I hope that I am not overanalizing. Just shout If I'm babbling too much, I do have a tendancy to do that. My respects, __________________ The Enigmatic F.B.-B. ~"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on."~ Olalye i vanwa i lome, Olalye a manan mapaiauretul i aure. (Translated: Dream of the past by night, Dream of how you can grasp the future by day.) Greet each day with enthusiasm. You never know what tale you might be thrust into before nightfall ... Be sure you have enough courage stored up to endure once the quest has found you.

03-25-2002, 04:08 AM	#52
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	Maybe this post belongs on the Weird thread, but anyway... I have already said Elves, and now I will say why : When I picture scenes from Middle-earth, I suddenly hear music (and this music varies from scene to scene). This is probably as a result of the way that I read LOTR and Silmarillian all the time - while listening to music. The genre of music that I listen to in this case is limited to dance, because I find this the best medium for transportation into Arda, and if you are familiar with the various subgenres, you might find the following interesting. Elves : When any elf comes into the picture, I suddenly hear a combination of epic, uplifiting, and fluffy trance. When elves go into battle, the trance becomes harder, turning into techno, and I am subsequently bombarded with uplifting tech-trance of an alarmingly majestic nature. As elves march into battle, the progressive nature of the tune starts up, becoming more and more menacing, while keeping a strange sense of nobility. Suddenly battle begins, and I am hit with uplifting hard-house and epic goa trance, really powerful and confidence inspiring beats. I am filled with awe, as the eyes of the most powerful elves begin to glow with anger, and the beat becomes even faster and more powerful. Then, as the elves prove victorious, the climax has been reached, and the most incredible uplifting and dreamy melody is heard (no beat - this is important!), as if we somehow knew that the elves werer going to win. Then the music fades away, slowly..... Now imagine what I hear when I picture Maiar. Or Valar!! Strangely I do not hear music when it comes to dwarves, ents hobbits, or eagles, etc. Corruptions, such as orcs or balrogs, usually take on a menacing, yet straightforward, pumping hard house beat, while the major bad boys, like Sauron or Morgoth, assume a deeper, eerie and sinister edge... PS. When I am driving to work, I try to equate certain tunes with scenes from the Silmarillian. This morning I heard the PERFECT manifestation of Finrod vs Sauron. There were endorphins present... Last edited by Andúril : 03-25-2002 at 05:38 AM.

03-25-2002, 09:29 AM	#54
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	Our accounting firm (and it's not Arthur Anderson) has made a tally of the votes and the favorite(so far) is ** opens envelope ** Elves 14.25 Hobbits 11.5 Ents 3.75 Horses 1.5 Eagles 1.25 Dwarves .75 coneys got a mention, but Arathorn's vote went to the Ents. Sorry about the fractional votes, some Mooters voted for 2, and one for four. __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling Last edited by barrelrider110 : 03-25-2002 at 09:32 AM.

03-23-2002, 04:16 PM	#41
Liviaine Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ithilien Posts: 203	Elves.

03-23-2002, 06:32 PM	#44
Lorien14 Sapling Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 10	I would say a tie between the horses and elves.

03-23-2002, 11:28 PM	#46
cee2lee2 Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 2nd star to the left..... Posts: 566	Ents, but then I'm a tree hugger from way back. Then elves, and then hobbits.

03-24-2002, 05:22 AM	#48
mattk Sapling Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: St.Albans Posts: 3	hobbits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

03-24-2002, 01:41 PM	#49
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Elves.

03-26-2002, 03:49 AM	#55
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Elves forever! er, that was a bit unnesecary, wasn't it? __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-26-2002, 10:56 AM	#56
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	I feel sorry for the Dwarves. They got beat by the Horses and Eagles. __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling

03-30-2002, 04:07 PM	#57
Asilynn Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mithlond, Lindon Posts: 16	Elves, specifically the Green Elves of Ossiriand. Hobbits are really the backbone of the Hobbit and LOTR, but the Silmarillion is where the Elves really come into their own...if you want to wade through the slow parts....even some real fans aren't willing to do that. (I personally don't believe there are any slow parts...but I've always been a very avid reader of Tolkien.) Asilynn __________________ "I feel like spring after winter, and sun on the leaves; and like trumpets and harps and all the songs I ever heard!" -Samwise Gamgee in ROTK, the Fields of Cormallen Not all that glitters is gold.

03-30-2002, 05:39 PM	#58
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	I'd have to say that I like the Elves the best!

04-02-2002, 08:10 PM	#59
Twilight Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmore, KY Posts: 269	I think that ents are my favorite race, but I think I might get bored of being one and decide to settle my roots. Being an elf would be much more fun. you can find excitement when you want it, but overall have a good peaceful life with plenty of food and singing. There also seems to be more companionship between the elves. I might get lonely being an ent because they seem to be more solitary. __________________ Sometimes I wonder how many monkeys with typewritters it would take to reproduce what I just wrote.

04-02-2002, 09:03 PM	#60
Occasionally Jay Enting Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 51	Eagles I can't believe more people don't want to be Eagles. Come ON, folks, they're Bloody-big-arse-birds who can talk, and FLY, and save the day at the end of the books... Eagle! Eagle! Eagle! __________________ There's a light house in the middle of Prussia/ A white house in a, red square.. (He's a real hoopy Frodo who always knows where his towel is.)

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