Least Favorite Characters in Tolkien's Writings - Page 3

Butterbeer · 12-21-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Truth be told, I was never a big fan of Bob and Nob, the two hobbits who worked for Butterbeer.

You are officially on thin Ice Mister!!

Gordis · 12-22-2008, 02:07 AM

You know BB, how to pinpoint a Mooter on another forum? All of us tend to spell Butterbur as "Butterbeer."

It has happened to me more than once....

Voronwen · 06-15-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Curufin

What are your least favorite characters in the works you've read of Tolkien's, and why?

I.

Hate.

Sauron.

He ruined Numenor, and

he killed my beloved Elendil.

Enough said!

Gordis · 06-16-2009, 01:14 PM

It was Eru who ruined Numenor, not Sau...

Voronwen · 06-16-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordis

It was Eru who ruined Numenor, not Sau...

Well...! I suppose that could be argued.

***Earniel*** · 06-16-2009, 01:56 PM

It's Sauron that wrecked the island, it's Eru that sank the wreck.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 06-16-2009, 03:42 PM

I dislike Turin greatly.

His dad's one of my favorites, though.

I'm not a fan of Thingol, either.

Gordis · 06-18-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Eärniel

It's Sauron that wrecked the island, it's Eru that sank the wreck.

Numenor was still in a perfectly good condition when Eru made format C: to the longsuffering World.

***Earniel*** · 06-18-2009, 11:31 AM

So Sauron's temple with its ever-hungry fires, people being sacrificed left and right, Nimloth being cut and burned, lawlessness, harassing the coasts of Middle-earth for slaves and gain, the Meneltarma being forbidden territory...

Ye-eah right, perfectly good condition, oh yes, definitely.

I think Ar-Pharazon is rapidly turning in one of my least favourite characters this way. The idiot.

Voronwen · 06-18-2009, 12:23 PM

I have to agree with Eärniel, here! (You knew i would! )

***Tessar*** · 06-18-2009, 12:29 PM

Melkor has ALWAYS freaked me out. I'm not exactly sure why I would find him any more scary than the other villains.... but he's definitely my least favorite.

Tinman · 06-29-2009, 08:41 PM

Bombadil. I swear his chapter is longer than the entire trilogy...

Nothing kills a serious moment for me like a yellow shoed blue hatted fop singing merrily.

If you wanna look at it from a less personal and more literary point of view, nothing kills the mood of the story like a character taking the ring, after all the build up by gandalf about how evil it is, and wearing it with no repercussions or effects. Sure, you can say it shows bombadils age and power... but really, it just belittles the capabilities of the ring after an establishment of its power.

EllethValatari · 10-04-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Bombadil. I swear his chapter is longer than the entire trilogy...

I agree-in a way. Bombadil has always bothered me because even Tolkien himself admits that he is an enigma; a character from a bedtime story he told his children. Bluntly put, I'm appalled by Tom's presence because I expect Tolkien's organized and well-connected plot and characters to remain consistent throughout.

On the other hand, I admire Tolkien's ability to include something entirely unpredictable that fits into the story: Tom is thrown into the story to be a means of help to help Frodo and his friends.

After all, without forcing a strange little hobbit out his front door, Tolkien couldn't have shown us Middle Earth.

***Tessar*** · 10-05-2010, 12:23 AM

I would actually disagree about TB belittling the Ring's power. To me, Tom B. Is a reminder that there are things in the world much older than the Ring. I won't say more powerful, because Tom doesn't seem keen to get into a fight with Sauron, but he is definitely a different "creature". To me, TB sort of helps to flesh out the world and make it seem wider and much more mysterious.

***Earniel*** · 10-05-2010, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EllethValatari

I agree-in a way. Bombadil has always bothered me because even Tolkien himself admits that he is an enigma; a character from a bedtime story he told his children. Bluntly put, I'm appalled by Tom's presence because I expect Tolkien's organized and well-connected plot and characters to remain consistent throughout.

I think he fits well with the structure of LoTR in the way that it shows how Tolkien developed the story. You can see how LoTR started like an actual sequel to The Hobbit, and then gradually morphing into a bigger story as he found ways to connect it with his other, existing mythology. Bombadil would have fitted well into the Hobbit, but I don't think Tolkien would have fitted him in LoTR at all beyond the events of the Fellowship.

06-16-2009, 01:56 PM	#46
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	It's Sauron that wrecked the island, it's Eru that sank the wreck. __________________ We are not things.

06-16-2009, 03:42 PM	#47
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	I dislike Turin greatly. His dad's one of my favorites, though. I'm not a fan of Thingol, either. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

06-18-2009, 11:31 AM	#49
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	So Sauron's temple with its ever-hungry fires, people being sacrificed left and right, Nimloth being cut and burned, lawlessness, harassing the coasts of Middle-earth for slaves and gain, the Meneltarma being forbidden territory... Ye-eah right, perfectly good condition, oh yes, definitely. I think Ar-Pharazon is rapidly turning in one of my least favourite characters this way. The idiot. __________________ We are not things.

06-18-2009, 12:23 PM	#50
Voronwen Lady of Andúnië Join Date: May 2009 Location: Andúnië Posts: 572	I have to agree with Eärniel, here! (You knew i would! ) __________________ " ...But the Exiles on the shores of the sea, if they turned towards the West in the desire of their hearts, spoke of Mar-nu-Falmar that was whelmed in the waves, Akallabêth the Downfallen, Atalantë in the Eldarin tongue." "Ye who believe in affection that hopes, and endures, and is patient, Ye who believe in the beauty and strength of woman's devotion, List to the mournful tradition still sung by the pines of the forest ... " ~ Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Evangeline

06-29-2009, 08:41 PM	#52
Tinman Enting Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 68	Bombadil. I swear his chapter is longer than the entire trilogy... Nothing kills a serious moment for me like a yellow shoed blue hatted fop singing merrily. If you wanna look at it from a less personal and more literary point of view, nothing kills the mood of the story like a character taking the ring, after all the build up by gandalf about how evil it is, and wearing it with no repercussions or effects. Sure, you can say it shows bombadils age and power... but really, it just belittles the capabilities of the ring after an establishment of its power. Last edited by Tinman : 06-29-2009 at 08:42 PM.

12-22-2008, 02:07 AM	#42
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	You know BB, how to pinpoint a Mooter on another forum? All of us tend to spell Butterbur as "Butterbeer." It has happened to me more than once....

06-16-2009, 01:14 PM	#44
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	It was Eru who ruined Numenor, not Sau...

06-18-2009, 12:29 PM	#51
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Melkor has ALWAYS freaked me out. I'm not exactly sure why I would find him any more scary than the other villains.... but he's definitely my least favorite.

10-05-2010, 12:23 AM	#54
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I would actually disagree about TB belittling the Ring's power. To me, Tom B. Is a reminder that there are things in the world much older than the Ring. I won't say more powerful, because Tom doesn't seem keen to get into a fight with Sauron, but he is definitely a different "creature". To me, TB sort of helps to flesh out the world and make it seem wider and much more mysterious.

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